Judge rules Nintendo ILLEGALLY protects systems', should be like WINDOWS!

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We have just heard that Nintendo has today lost a major court case against the Divineo group in the main court of Paris. Nintendo originally took the group to court over DS flash carts, however the judge today has ruled against Nintendo and suggested that they are purposely locking out developers from their consoles and things should be more like Windows where ANYONE can develop any application if they wish to.

The ramifications of this are huge, as it indicates that flash carts are actually legal. Moroever, it could have bigger implications for developers and the like becauseNintendo is deemed to be 'illegally' protecting their system by locking users out. Therefore, developers should not actually require separate development kits and should just be able to develop applications as they wish on retail versions of Nintendo's consoles.

And on a final note, this truly was a HUGE court case, up in the main court of Paris France and seems likely to be relevant to the whole of Europe.

Essentially, if people have to 'hack' the system and use Flash Carts to do develop, then it's all fine because Nintendo has left them with little other choice and the system should not be protected in such a restrictive way.

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I stole this news from another site, but it's really big! That means I could develop a new game for the Wii, and it wouldn't have to have to be Nintendo Certified! You wouldn't have to pay Nintendo ANYTHING for developing and selling a game that works on their system! This will help the price of games come WAY down and ALOT more smaller/independent companies develop games! This is crazy good news!

France seems to be that way about "protection" schemes in general. They ruled last year (I think it was last year) that encrypting DVDs with CSS was illegal in France because it prevented people from using the disc how they felt, as their right as the owner of said disc. Unfortunately, these decisions only apply to France, not to the rest of us. :(

well, if you think about it, how is a DS flashcart different from an SD cart? it isn't. Without pirated copies of games, I say no harm, no foul. One ramification of this might be system manufacturers hiking prices, though, much like the 3DO. It'll kind of suck to pay $1000 for PS4 even if the games are only $30.

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Originally Posted by mrbigreddog

This will help the price of games come WAY down and ALOT more smaller/independent companies develop games! This is crazy good news!

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I doubt it. If anything, this will make third-party companies larger profits. Think about it, consumers are conditioned to buy a video game for between $40 and $60, just because Nintendo isn't taking a cut doesn't mean publishers are going to lower that price.

I bet you this doesn't amount to much. I think we'll see a couple of oddball releases that wouldn't normally see publication, but that's it.

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Originally Posted by InternalPrimate

I doubt it. If anything, this will make third-party companies larger profits. Think about it, consumers are conditioned to buy a video game for between $40 and $60, just because Nintendo isn't taking a cut doesn't mean publishers are going to lower that price.

I bet you this doesn't amount to much. I think we'll see a couple of oddball releases that wouldn't normally see publication, but that's it.

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I dunno, look at the iPhone. Apple sets the limit at $10, but most games are launched at half of that. Granted, a good Wii game has more content than an iPhone game, but $30ish should be about right. The only thing that sucks is that Nintendo won't bend over backwards to ensure compatibility with those games in the event of a firmware update.

gee i think this is a bit wrong they are selling a hardware product unlike microsoft which is selling software

people have a choice to buy it or not if a car company came out with a car that only worked with say chevron gasoline at a loss and had chevron charge more for fuel(say it has a propriatary additive that is required to trip a sensor) shouldnt they be able to? if someone else tries to sell their patented propriatary additive should they not be allowed to put a stop to that?


if a company uses any of nintendos copywritten code they should be stopped

if we dont keep the grey area alive then everybody will be doing it and the leets dont want that but for the lamonewb suckers paying for stuff it wouldnt be made

I think modern games are too caught up on "content" and not putting enough into the game itself. I don't give a lick about HD cut scenes - I usually skip them when it's allowed. There's no need to add hours of pre-rendered cut scenes... unless you're trying to hide the fact that your game is lacking in game play.

Even in the game itself, "content" isn't very important. I appreciate better textures as much as the next guy, but don't get so caught up in providing gigabytes of textures that you let the game suffer. Fire some of the artists and hire a few more level creators. Instead of paying some "celebrity of the minute" singer to provide music, use an independent musician looking for promotion. There's no reason a game NEEDS to cost a tens of millions of dollars.

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Originally Posted by bohokii

gee i think this is a bit wrong they are selling a hardware product unlike microsoft which is selling software

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Well what about PC's in general, what if you couldn't install whatever operating system or program you wanted on it!? For example I'm using Mozilla Firefox right now, but what if you could only use internet explorer. That would suck!

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Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

I think modern games are too caught up on "content" and not putting enough into the game itself. I don't give a lick about HD cut scenes - I usually skip them when it's allowed. There's no need to add hours of pre-rendered cut scenes... unless you're trying to hide the fact that your game is lacking in game play.

Even in the game itself, "content" isn't very important. I appreciate better textures as much as the next guy, but don't get so caught up in providing gigabytes of textures that you let the game suffer. Fire some of the artists and hire a few more level creators. Instead of paying some "celebrity of the minute" singer to provide music, use an independent musician looking for promotion. There's no reason a game NEEDS to cost a tens of millions of dollars.

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that's why the iPhone is my most played game platform. The games are all simple fun without being too dumbed down (and expensive) like the Wii. In fact, many of them are simply flash games ported over and ad-free for 99 cents.

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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes

that's why the iPhone is my most played game platform. The games are all simple fun without being too dumbed down (and expensive) like the Wii. In fact, many of them are simply flash games ported over and ad-free for 99 cents.

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Uhh... Wiiware! Cheap, simple games, great game play!
And of course Virtual Console! And new Virtual Console Arcade! Now with an Arcade Perfect port of Altered Beast!

Beautiful Arcade Graphics!
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...52598_640w.jpg
Genesis
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...45794_640w.jpg

This downside is that this could mean that there will be more crappy games. Nintendo would no longer have to worry about their "seal of quality," not that it meant anything originally.

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Originally Posted by mrbigreddog

Uhh... Wiiware! Cheap, simple games, great game play!
And of course Virtual Console! And new Virtual Console Arcade! Now with an Arcade Perfect port of Altered Beast!

Beautiful Arcade Graphics!
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...52598_640w.jpg
Genesis
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...45794_640w.jpg

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Wiiware is still 2-3X as much as the iphone version of the same game on average. Also, Wiiware is tied to your Wii, iPhone games are tied to your iTunes. Theoretically, you will be able to re-download and transfer iPhone games as long as your account is active.

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Originally Posted by Why-Disciple

This downside is that this could mean that there will be more crappy games. Nintendo would no longer have to worry about their "seal of quality," not that it meant anything originally.

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The current Wii library already proves the seal of quality means nothing.

This is awesome news! :D

Unfortunately, this seems to only affect a country that, ironically, made emulators illegal. :p

i 100% agree with the thread title.

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Originally Posted by mrbigreddog

Well what about PC's in general, what if you couldn't install whatever operating system or program you wanted on it!? For example I'm using Mozilla Firefox right now, but what if you could only use internet explorer. That would suck!

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that would really suck since Internet Explorer is really slow.