Mega Man 10

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Originally Posted by InternalPrimate

I still don't understand how someone can consider this "phoned in". The fact is, dozens of games are released each year in which their main selling point is their visuals. Nothing else, just visuals. These games garner so much attention that it's sickening, and most of the time they end up just being recycled experiences.

So when a game comes out, in 2009, and can sell well because of the ideas it offers and the polished gameplay it presents, while at the same time deliberately ignoring gamers desire for flashy visuals, that's something special.

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BUT MM9 IS JUST A RECYCLED EXPERIENCE!

it's not significantly different from any of the NES ones. If you have MM anniversary collection, I see no reason to ever play MM9, you aren't missing anything. Modern technology allows them to really vary the gameplay in ways that would've been impossible on the NES, but instead they just cash in on the rising retro fad. I'm not saying I need a 1080p MM that plays like stick figures, but god dammit if flash games aren't 1000x better than MM9. Have you ever played the game :shift: ? When Mega Man does something that cool, then we'll talk.

Well, anyone who is a long-time Mega Man fan knows that you shouldn't enter each game expecting an experience vastly different from the previous games. Usually the "hook" is the new set of robot masters.

This is looking very impressive. Though I never picked up 9, seeing the footage of 10 has me in the mood to jump into that so I can be in the zone for this upcoming release.

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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes

BUT MM9 IS JUST A RECYCLED EXPERIENCE!

it's not significantly different from any of the NES ones. If you have MM anniversary collection, I see no reason to ever play MM9, you aren't missing anything. Modern technology allows them to really vary the gameplay in ways that would've been impossible on the NES, but instead they just cash in on the rising retro fad. I'm not saying I need a 1080p MM that plays like stick figures, but god dammit if flash games aren't 1000x better than MM9. Have you ever played the game :shift: ? When Mega Man does something that cool, then we'll talk.

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So you played MM10? How is it? You must be pretty important considering no one outside of Capcom has played it.

All I'm hearing on this thread is complaining and bitching about MM10 should at lease 16 bit

Capcom made 2 games 8bit..the 1st time yay 8bit..the 2nd time, wtf Capcom

I don't thing Capcom is doing 8bit remakes to other game..only MM..People are not pleased regardless

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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes

Personally, I think if they want to use retro graphics, they should make a crazy twist to it. Take Space Invaders Infinity Gene on the iPhone: you get the original Space Invaders sprites, but then you add new enemies, new level types, and even a feature that generates levels based on the music in your iPhone! I don't mind some 8-bit sprites, but if they aren't going to program it as a real NES game, they should depart from even trying to fake it and take it in a wild new direction that really pushes the genre ahead.

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This came up before, but if they want the NES style graphics ("8-bit" is kind of meaningless, could apply to anything from Atari 2600, 5200/8-bit, 7800, C64, SMS, Speccy, CPC, MSX, MSX2, ColecoVision, etc -or even TG-16 if you stretched it)
Anyway, if they want NES style graphics, fine, it's the roots of the franchise, but that's no reason to not include an upgraded graphics option (like the monkey Island re-releases with VGA mode in addition to the remade graphics and sound). High quality 2D graphics and sound (with remixes of the NES style music), on par or better than Mega Man 8. (maybe keep 3D out to facilitate a proper NES mode, that and having all 2D gives a different feel)

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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes

BUT MM9 IS JUST A RECYCLED EXPERIENCE!

it's not significantly different from any of the NES ones. If you have MM anniversary collection, I see no reason to ever play MM9, you aren't missing anything. Modern technology allows them to really vary the gameplay in ways that would've been impossible on the NES, but instead they just cash in on the rising retro fad. I'm not saying I need a 1080p MM that plays like stick figures, but god dammit if flash games aren't 1000x better than MM9. Have you ever played the game :shift: ? When Mega Man does something that cool, then we'll talk.

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Other than the annoying difficulty level at some points, I'm not a big Mega Man guy, but my little brother is (beat all the older games), and he got stuck and pretty much abandoned MM9, I kind of suck at the games so that's no surprise. (I'm a bit better with MMX1 and MM8 though, and 64/legends I was decent as well)

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Originally Posted by tomaitheous

Wow. I think Sega-16 has more 8bit haters than any other retro gaming forum :/ ... haters!

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I don't hate 8-bit graphics, I just didn't really have much experience with them when they were new. I just think it would be nice for Capcom to mix it up a little. A Megaman with goregeous, Legend of Mana-esque watercolor graphics would be awesome, for example.

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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes

BUT MM9 IS JUST A RECYCLED EXPERIENCE!

it's not significantly different from any of the NES ones. If you have MM anniversary collection, I see no reason to ever play MM9, you aren't missing anything.

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Really? I've played (and beaten) all 6 of the original games as well as MM9. I thought MM9 felt fresh in comparison to the original games, even though it was in the same style. Something tells me you never even played MM9.

Anyway, I'm glad that MM10 is in the same style as MM9 and I look forward to it. The NES games were better than the later ones anyway (although they're still pretty good).

I'm not an 8bit hater. I just don't think the world is in dire need of another 8bit Mega Man game. I'd really like them to take it in a MM8 style audio/visual direction.

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Originally Posted by InternalPrimate

So you played MM10? How is it? You must be pretty important considering no one outside of Capcom has played it.

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wow. I said MM9.

Note to self: Internal Primate can not read.

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Originally Posted by ApolloBoy

Really? I've played (and beaten) all 6 of the original games as well as MM9. I thought MM9 felt fresh in comparison to the original games, even though it was in the same style. Something tells me you never even played MM9.

Anyway, I'm glad that MM10 is in the same style as MM9 and I look forward to it. The NES games were better than the later ones anyway (although they're still pretty good).

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It's just on my Wii right now :roll:

I beat all of the base robot masters and then lost interest in favor of the hundreds of better games I own.

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Originally Posted by zetastrike

I'm not an 8bit hater. I just don't think the world is in dire need of another 8bit Mega Man game. I'd really like them to take it in a MM8 style audio/visual direction.

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I agree. The biggest problem with 8 was that the core gameplay wasn't all that great, but the graphics were AWESOME. To say good graphics and sound won't enhance an already good game is just being stubborn. I appreciate the idea of the retro-looking graphics, but like those games I posted videos of (and everyone chose to ignore, as per usual when I make a solid argument), it could've been taken into a cool modern direction (seeing the space invaders enemies in full animation was nothing sort of amazing).

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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes

It's just on my Wii right now :roll:

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Was the smiley really needed? Besides, you didn't even address my main point.

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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes

wow. I said MM9.

Note to self: Internal Primate can not read.

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It pains me to say it, but my bad :D

My biggest problem with MM9 was that it was too hard. Yes, I said it. Maybe it's just as hard as the previous games, and maybe my Jedi skills have diminished since I was a kid, but I simply don't have the patience to watch MM fly back 3 feet into a pit of spikes every time he gets hit. It's 2009 for god's sake, that shit needs to go the way of the Dodo.

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Originally Posted by jerry coeurl

I don't hate 8-bit graphics, I just didn't really have much experience with them when they were new. I just think it would be nice for Capcom to mix it up a little. A Megaman with goregeous, Legend of Mana-esque watercolor graphics would be awesome, for example.

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MM* would be the closest example, on th eSaturn and PSX:
http://i.neoseeker.com/screenshots/R..._8_image14.jpg

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Originally Posted by zetastrike

I'm not an 8bit hater. I just don't think the world is in dire need of another 8bit Mega Man game. I'd really like them to take it in a MM8 style audio/visual direction.

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Exactly! (or improved over MM8 for that matter) Plus, it's not like they couldn't include a retro-mode for NES style play, like VGA mode for the Secret of Monkey Island remake.

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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes

I agree. The biggest problem with 8 was that the core gameplay wasn't all that great, but the graphics were AWESOME. To say good graphics and sound won't enhance an already good game is just being stubborn. I appreciate the idea of the retro-looking graphics, but like those games I posted videos of (and everyone chose to ignore, as per usual when I make a solid argument), it could've been taken into a cool modern direction (seeing the space invaders enemies in full animation was nothing sort of amazing).

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MM8 was at least a good game, unlikt 7, which looked and sounded good, but was pretty mediocre (and yet still goes for a hefty price due to the relative rarity and fanboyism...).
And I know I'm being redundant, but it's not like you cant have both retro/modern graphics for the same game. (SoMI remake...)

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Originally Posted by Melf

My biggest problem with MM9 was that it was too hard. Yes, I said it. Maybe it's just as hard as the previous games, and maybe my Jedi skills have diminished since I was a kid, but I simply don't have the patience to watch MM fly back 3 feet into a pit of spikes every time he gets hit. It's 2009 for god's sake, that shit needs to go the way of the Dodo.

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It's not you, lots of people think that. I personally kind of suck at most MM games (especially the NES/GB ones), so I can't comment that much on it for my own experiences. However (as I mentioned precviously), my 15 year old broher is great at them (even using an analog stick instead of d-pad for the GC release of the anivercery collection). He's played through all the original games including 8 (not sure if he quit 7 though), and got fed up with the difficulty in MM9.
I think MM2 is often considdered th emost difficult of the originals, and MM9 is often sited as being even toughter.

Some find the MMX series harder than th eoriginal series... I'm not sure about all the games, but MMX 1 is definitely easier for me than MM 1-6. (partially due to the controls feeling more fluid)

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Originally Posted by ApolloBoy

Was the smiley really needed? Besides, you didn't even address my main point.

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ummmm, yes. You go accusing me of not playing the game when you have no clue. And what was your main point? To me, it felt like a rehashed homebrew hack of the previous games, only I would've respected it more if it was because then it would've been a real NES game.

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Originally Posted by Melf

My biggest problem with MM9 was that it was too hard. Yes, I said it. Maybe it's just as hard as the previous games, and maybe my Jedi skills have diminished since I was a kid, but I simply don't have the patience to watch MM fly back 3 feet into a pit of spikes every time he gets hit. It's 2009 for god's sake, that shit needs to go the way of the Dodo.

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The worst part was that it was hard in that "fuck this, NEXT!" kind of way instead of a "one more try!" like 2 or 3.