Rumor: Sonic Adventure coming to XBLA

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Originally Posted by Wildfire McCloud

To me, Amy's stages felt more like very slowed down Sonic stages. And since the most fun I got out of the game was whizzing through twists and loops with a cinematic camera view in the Sonic levels, this made the Amy levels feel like they were missing something. But she does have a big hammer, so it wasn't all bad.

I also liked E-102's levels, same with the Tails and "Eggman" (I'll never get used to calling him that) levels in SA2, but I felt they were severely lacking depth in the gameplay. It felt too much like it was "Hold B, spin the control stick, let go and you win." I really liked blowing everything up in sight, but it didn't feel like I was really doing too much.

And as for the Knuckles levels... well, they're definitely more intricate in SA2. The levels have changeable water levels, multiple sections, etc. Those make them more interesting than the rehashed Sonic levels that Knuckles had in SA. However, there are a couple of levels (like MAD SPACE) that are absurdly annoying. A huge level spanning hundreds of feet of height, having to struggle to get to another section of the level, finding hints that are completely useless (or BACKWARDS, and then only displaying for a brief moment before disappearing!), and wasting time flying around with no clue where to go hoping for the radar to go off. Also, (at least in SA2B) you have to get the emerald pieces in order. The radar only goes off when you're near the current piece. So you could have flown past two of the emerald pieces many times over trying to find the first one, and you'd have no clue. IDK, maybe it was just Mad Space that pushed me over the edge into hating those levels. That level always seems to take FOREVER to finish.

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This is making me want to go play SA2 again. It's been a long time. My only complaint about Mad Space is that I would fall to the bottom and have to climb way up again. Annoying, but for some reason that didn't bother me as much as that one Rouge stage with the flying robot patrol guard that always seemed to show up at the most inopportune moments. But I enjoyed the other hunting stages, especially the Halloween-themed one, and the one where you hit switches to change the water level. Those were fun. In contrast, I did not have fun with a single one of the hunting stages in SA1. They were tolerable, but dull. You basically just keep your eyes glued to the radar and don't even have to pay attention to the level.

Huh, I really like Sonic Adventure 2 (well 2 battle at least, I've never played the DC version).
Polished graphics and gameplay compared to SA1, better voice acting/dubbing IMO, though I think the final boss was probably better in SA1, I liked the story more overall in SA2. (to be honest, I was really getting into it, I thought the dual perspective storyline was kind of neat as well -especially with things culminating in final conclusion after the 2 pseudo endings)
I'm an adventure game fan though, so the exploration and open maps of SA1 was nice, but I do appreciate the more straightforeward and fluid gameplay in SA2(B).
That, and the multiplayer is still pretty fun, even if it's only 2p max.


I only got a tiny bit of experience with SA1 on the DC in store displays (and Crazy Taxy was far more common).

I think we got SA2B for GC around 2004, so I would have been about 15 at the time, we didn't get sonic adventure DX until a couple years later.

But I (or we rather) still play it, and more often than SA1 (in part due to multiplayer, also to the more pick-up and play style of the game, SA1 you can forget how things work more easily). Or rather, we would be playing them if I hadn't loaned both at my birthday party last August. (really need to get those back ;))

Very solid, fluid 3D platformers though, SA2B felt a bit more intuitive to play overall, I think.

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Originally Posted by Wildfire McCloud

The Knuckles and Rouge levels were painstaking and headache-inducing. FUCK MAD SPACE :furious:

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I got bored playing Knuckles stages...and I didn't give a shit about big titty bat chick to care to play her levels.

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Originally Posted by j_factor

I don't see the other characters in SA1 as optional... you have to play them all to beat the game.

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It's has been a long time since I fired up SA. If I've forgot that detail about the game then I think even less of it then I thought I did.

Ty the Tasmanian Tiger > SA 1+2

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Originally Posted by Wildfire McCloud

The Knuckles and Rouge levels were painstaking and headache-inducing. FUCK MAD SPACE :furious:

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Exactly what Mario Galaxy is today.
At least Rouge had big tits to keep you playing...maybe if you played as Rouge in Mario Galaxy, instead of Mario.
And no, giving Mario or Luigi Rouge's chest is not the same thing.

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Originally Posted by PimpUigi

Exactly what Mario Galaxy is today.
At least Rouge had big tits to keep you playing...maybe if you played as Rouge in Mario Galaxy, instead of Mario.
And no, giving Mario or Luigi Rouge's chest is not the same thing.

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Are you a furry?

Not by most people's definitions.
I'm just a regular normal guy TBH.

Super Turbo Cammy is pretty hot too.
She's not in Sonic or Mario either. : (

I guess you could just say I like cartoon, and video game babes.

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Originally Posted by PimpUigi

Exactly what Mario Galaxy is today.

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No, just no.

How is Mario Galaxy not just a game sized version of Mad Space?

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Originally Posted by PimpUigi

How is Mario Galaxy not just a game sized version of Mad Space?

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It's fun for starters, those hunt the emerald stages are probably the main reason I never play SA2. The stages in SMG are also more linear in respect of finding the main star on each level. Some of those SA2 stages took me stupid amounts of time, and IIRC Mad Space was one of the worst.

Well, in regardless to the linearity of things, I knew where all the gems would be, so it was just a matter of going through the level with a certain amount of my own preset linear path already.

It's the actual going upside down, and having all sorts of crazy things happen to you that's not fun.
Like he said, headache inducing.

Something about being upside down, the camera changing every which way, and always feeling like I can't see what I need to see stops me from enjoying things.

Sonic Adventure? Day one purchase. If only for that absolutely gorgeous Emerald Coast stage all over again (not to mention Speed Highway, Casinopolis, Twinkle Park, the rock-out hair metal that's become the general 'Sonic sound'...)

Too bad SA2 took a giant steamy dump all over it, but hey ho.

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Originally Posted by Nick16

You guys must be missing the "SONIC ADVENTURE EXTEND PACKAGE".
Looks like there might be a chance at DLC for it.

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Well, all sources point to it being a port of the SADX version; so it's probably the extra stage challenges (?), Game Gear games etc. Or the DLC Sonic Adventure already had, wasn't there menu themes and a Christmas theme for Station Square to download? I'm sure there was one for the Japanese game & console launch, too.

aah Dreamcast :)

Also, this port seems so fitting, seeing how the Xbox 360 controller was inspired by the Saturn/Dreamcast controller.

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Originally Posted by Nick16

Also, this port seems so fitting, seeing how the Xbox 360 controller was inspired by the Saturn/Dreamcast controller.

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Actually, the 360 controller is more of a streamlined Xbox 1 controller which was IN TURN a ripoff of the Dreamcast controller. I see no resemblence of the saturn controller with the 360's, but i see a clear resemblence of the Xbox 1 to the Dreamcast's.

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Originally Posted by PimpUigi

Exactly what Mario Galaxy is today.
At least Rouge had big tits to keep you playing...maybe if you played as Rouge in Mario Galaxy, instead of Mario.

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Hmm, your right. In fact I find Mad Space a whole lot more playable (or fun at least) and Mario Galaxy... Actually the planet levels are kind of fun, I don't really care for the semi-2D oriented scrolling/star bits collecting levels. It's OK, but not enough to keep me that interested, maybe I should give it another go though.
I really prefer proper 3D platformers though, as with SM64, SA1/2, and Sunshine. (say what you will about the atmostphere, but the game is damn fun) SM64's biggest problem is the camera IMO. (something SA1 is better with, much moreso for SA2 and Sunshine)

Since you prefer 3D platformers...I assume you've blown through Jumping Flash 1 and 2 by now, right?

Other than JF, SM64, SA1, and Crash Bandicoot 1 are my favorite 3D platformers.

I don't like Spyro (which I 100%'d the first game, just to quiet my doubts that I liked it or not) or seemingly any other 3D platformer though.