Apple iPad unveiled!

Apple are is apparently banking on there being 'room between the smartphone and the laptop', and are as such inserting a scaled-up version of the iPod Touch to receive many moneys!

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Even though a netbook is so uncomfortable to type on (apparently), there's also a dock and keypad available!

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Prices:

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Think different! from the makers of ipod - BIG ipod!

...wow wonder how durable it is..still i wont be a iSap. Looks cool though if you a DL only person and want no real books

ok, it's not JUST an eBook reader, that's a minor, minor feature. I think the iPad is good for the computer equivalent of the Wii market (only not so half assed and totally pointless). Lots of older people (especially 50+ that never learned to use a computer) and teenage girls just want basic stuff like internet, e-mail, photos, music, etc. and this would work better than a full fledged computer that they'll never use. One of the first things I thought of when I got the iPhone was that it would be cool as a full scale tablet, and if I had one, I would probably use it. The iPad is the kind of thing you would lay down on the couch and use while you watch TV. No one wants to fumble with a laptop while they're lounging, with that uncomfortable knees clenched hunched over stance. I could imagine parents having one computer for the family and then buying their kids one of these instead of a full fledged computer (assuming the kids don't need full fledged capabilities). I still wish it ran a more conventional version of OS X though, I find it a little unacceptable to be so locked down like it is. I'm kind of interested in it as a game system though, giant touch screen and accelerometers? yes please.

netbook typing is conformable

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Originally Posted by streetsofrage

what is it a oversized ipod?

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I would call it a "casual computing device" personally.

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Originally Posted by streetsofrage

netbook typing is conformable

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not when you're laid back in a chair or on a couch. Also, you just touch the screen, not use that shitty little one inch touchpad netbooks have. A Netbook is just a stripped down tedious mini-laptop, there's really no point other than it's light and portable. This, on the other hand, is sort of a streamlined computer that gives up some higher end functionality in exchange for quick and easy operation.

oh, and at the OP, ummm, that's a full-sized keyboard for desktop use if you want to word process or something, not a shitty microkeyboard like on netbooks.

I be laughing if it fails

I don't quite see there being a strong market for this.. at those prices and with those memory options offered..

Its not quite a lap top... and its more then an ipod... but its not an Iphone.. yet its prices suggest something on par with a lap top..

Will be interesting to see how this panns out..

In all honesty i thought the pictures of it were fake at first...

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I be laughing if it fails

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I don't think it's expected to sell like the iPhone or the iPod, it's more a niche product for, like I said, those not comfortable with a full computer but want more than what an iPhone can do (or need a bigger screen in the case of the elderly). I mean, typing an e-mail on an iPhone is tedious, typing an e-mail on the tablet (with or without the external keyboard) is virtually painless.

The amount of memory is a joke.

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The amount of memory is a joke.

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1st of all: it's flash, 64GB of flash is ALOT and fairly expensive

2nd of all: it's not something you dump 200GB of movies on, you'll sync it with a computer like you would the iPhone. 64GB should be WAY more than enough to get you through the day.

More iGarbage, seriously, similar products that do the same thing for 1/3rd the price.

Thi$ will $ell MILLION$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!! So, how do you hold this piece of contraption??? Its just a piece of flat slab. How the hell do you hold it other than standing it on that stand? :daze:

From Engadget's hands-on:

• It's not light. It feels pretty weighty in your hand.
• The screen is stunning, and it's 1024 x 768. Feels just like a huge iPhone in your hands.
• The speed of the CPU is something to be marveled at. It is blazingly fast from what we can tell. Webpages loaded up super fast, and scrolling was without a hiccup. Moving into and out of apps was a breeze. Everything flew.
• There's no multitasking at all. It's a real disappointment. All this power and very little you can do with it at once. No multitasking means no streaming Pandora when you're working in Pages... you can figure it out. It's a real setback for this device.
• The ebook implementation is about as close as you can get to reading without a stack of bound paper in your hand. The visual stuff really helps flesh out the experience. It may be just for show, but it counts here.
• No camera. None, nada. Zip. No video conferencing here folks. Hell, it doesn't have an SMS app!
• It's running iPhone OS 3.2.
• The keyboard is good, not great. Not quite as responsive as it looked in the demos.
• No Flash confirmed. So Hulu is out for you, folks!

Honestly, though. 'We think netbooks are small and unwieldy and uncomfortable ... so here's a big square thing you have to touch to interact with that you sync up to your Apple desktop PC anyway. Features? ... ... there's an app for that'

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No camera. None, nada. Zip. No video conferencing here folks. Hell, it doesn't have an SMS app!

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Don't worry folks, they'll roll out an upgraded version with those features "n" charge more.

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hahaha, 'streamlined'. Yup, you can't choose the operating system, the built-in browser is completely gimped, the battery's not removable, and you can only install app(lications) that have been approved by Apple. Sounds like a 'streamlined computer' to me!

For the same price as the 64gb iPad you could most likely source an HP convertible laptop with a built-in Wacom digitizer, a hard drive larger than 250GB, multiple gigabytes of RAM, a built in keyboard, a better processor and graphics card than macbooks, the ability to use the operating system of your choice, similar battery life, and also, as an added bonus, the ability to right click. And that's just matching the price and performance; a netbook, boiled-down, is exactly the same as a regular laptop, with the essential components (storage, screen resolution, optical drive etc) scaled-down for portability and cost.

tl,dr: iPad = iPod Touch scaled UP. Netbook = standard laptop scaled DOWN.

What does this offer, besides 'it's an ipod touch but bigger'?

I don't see the market for it, but for those knocking the tech in it, it uses an advanced lithium polymer battery, has an I-SPS LCD panel which is the best type of LCD, and you hold it like you would an iPod or iPhone.

The downside is that its almost as expensive as a Macbook. So I don't see the point at all. It would have a much larger market if it ran full OS X.
Also, you can right click on a Mac. You could do that since 1990. You go into the settings for your mouse, and enable the second button. On a macbook or single button mouse, you just hold down the control key. This is also a touchscreen multitouch device. There is no need for a right click, its all done using hand gestures.

You have to be half retarded to buy this piece of garbage.

How big is this thing anyway?

Its 10 inches.

So, can anyone say "waste of money"? Even the hipsters won't be picking this up.

17Days, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to create new posts just to respond to something you missed seeing before your first post. That is why we have an edit button. It works. Please, use your brain. Thanks.

Waited for this for a few months now, apple dropped the ball to say the least.

Seems like another thing that's just overhyped, like the iphone. And i'm a mac-user myself, if that matters.

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I was sold until I learned of the memory. Great, just great. I had such high hopes for this machine. Now I really see no point in it. It appears to be more like an oversized iPod than a toned-down laptop. I really wanted a more portable, futuristic, laptop with this one. After all, that's what the hype was all about at first. Oh well. Guess I'll have to wait longer.

Oh man, that'll be the day when you can feel as comfortable with a laptop's battery pack as you would with, say, your DS; the day when batteries will last half as long as advertised and you no longer have to bring the AC adapter with you just in case. Oh well. (Speaking of the DS, it felt to me that this technology, if truly able to multi-tap onto a TV screen could be the key to playing DS titles on the big screen; with the iPad acting as the touch-pad. But based on hardware simplifications, I'm skeptical).

I wonder how well it would function as an artist's tablet...

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More iGarbage, seriously, similar products that do the same thing for 1/3rd the price.

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umm....like what?

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Thi$ will $ell MILLION$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!! So, how do you hold this piece of contraption??? Its just a piece of flat slab. How the hell do you hold it other than standing it on that stand? :daze:

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...with your hands...

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Originally Posted by Elusive

hahaha, 'streamlined'. Yup, you can't choose the operating system, the built-in browser is completely gimped, the battery's not removable, and you can only install app(lications) that have been approved by Apple. Sounds like a 'streamlined computer' to me!

For the same price as the 64gb iPad you could most likely source an HP convertible laptop with a built-in Wacom digitizer, a hard drive larger than 250GB, multiple gigabytes of RAM, a built in keyboard, a better processor and graphics card than macbooks, the ability to use the operating system of your choice, similar battery life, and also, as an added bonus, the ability to right click. And that's just matching the price and performance; a netbook, boiled-down, is exactly the same as a regular laptop, with the essential components (storage, screen resolution, optical drive etc) scaled-down for portability and cost.

tl,dr: iPad = iPod Touch scaled UP. Netbook = standard laptop scaled DOWN.

What does this offer, besides 'it's an ipod touch but bigger'?

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just where are you pulling this price from? I googled for a review of said HP convertible laptop and the price was just short of $2000, what I paid for my Macbook Pro, which would blow the pants off of that HP piece of shit.

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I don't see the market for it, but for those knocking the tech in it, it uses an advanced lithium polymer battery, has an I-SPS LCD panel which is the best type of LCD, and you hold it like you would an iPod or iPhone.

The downside is that its almost as expensive as a Macbook. So I don't see the point at all. It would have a much larger market if it ran full OS X.
Also, you can right click on a Mac. You could do that since 1990. You go into the settings for your mouse, and enable the second button. On a macbook or single button mouse, you just hold down the control key. This is also a touchscreen multitouch device. There is no need for a right click, its all done using hand gestures.

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How is exactly HALF the price of a Macbook almost the price of a Macbook? The base model is $500 and has more than enough memory for any reasonable amount of use (16 GB). The only time you need more than 16GB is if you're dumping movies and movies and movies on it or you have a DJ-sized music collection. Even if you wanted movies and music, it's meant to be used in conjunction with a "mothership" computer to change out your media when necessary.

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17Days, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to create new posts just to respond to something you missed seeing before your first post. That is why we have an edit button. It works. Please, use your brain. Thanks.

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well StreetsofRage backtracked and re-wrote his post, I guess I could've combined them, but god that's a PITA. Is there any way to put a button that would copy a quote to the clipboard so it can be pasted into a window?

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Originally Posted by Dunn

Seems like another thing that's just overhyped, like the iphone. And i'm a mac-user myself, if that matters.

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how is the iPhone overhyped? the 3GS is the best smartphone on the market, no question.

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I wonder how well it would function as an artist's tablet...

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I could see it getting a big following for that very function. I know the iPhone has some conductive stylus...eseseses for it, so imagine they could make a drawing-centric version for the iPad.




As for my thoughts:

First of all, I love how no one has even touched the fucking thing and they are already shitting all over it. Why are Windows users so butthurt? I mean, all of the "Pad! hurr hurr hurr feminine hygiene hur hur hur" when we just had the fucking Wii, which is WAY worse.

Also, much like everyone keeps wanting to tell me every time I shit on the Wii, this isn't meant for a high-end computer user market. I think the target for this is for the computer illiterate that just want to sync their digital camera and get e-mail/internet without having to actually learn a real OS. The other market is sort of a "casual computer" like you would use while you sit on the couch and watch TV.

I'm not about to shell out $500 for one, but if I had one, I would probably get alot of use out of it as it's quicker for everyday use and doesn't have the tiny screen and keyboard limitations of the iPhone.

Remember too, this is the first version and we don't know where it's going to go from here. I wasn't impressed at all with the first iPhone: the internet was slow, the camera sucked, there was no app store at first, the keyboard was portrait-only, the map program wasn't a GPS, it was super expensive, etc. Then, 2 years later, the 3GS came out with a great camera (good video too), auto-orienting GPS, blazing fast internet, landscape keyboard, literally THOUSANDS of apps including productivity and games at super low prices, larger storage size, etc etc etc. and is now the best portable electronic device I've ever owned.

Plus, don't forget, it's HIGHLY likely they will have a jailbreak hack for this within weeks opening it up to whatever you want to do with it. I wouldn't be surprised if you could run standard OS X via a hack. Also, unlike the iPhone that (at least for me) needs to be reliable, it's not a big deal if you were to brick your iPad b/c then you would just have to restore it from your "mothership" computer and go about your day.

I am not very impressed with this iPad. It seems interesting for movies and some apps, but it's not as innovative as the iPhone, and the App Store only policy still being there lost me.

What was even more disappointing was that they said nothing about the iPhone. Great, we have new hardware. But where is my OS 4.0 with multitasking and things?

17days defense of the iPad (a product he himself hasn't touched, yet it's okay for him to judge it, but not others) reminds me of this little gem:

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Keep on truckin' buddy. We've all been there. This is how I felt when I learned Dead Space Extraction would be an on-rails shooter ;) And that actually turned out okay!

It's too expensive to hit the target audience.

It's safe to assume that netbooks are more powerful 'right now', and can do a lot more than what apple's trying to box here in this package. Direct benchmarks on the custom processor will likely show minimal difference in performance.

Tablet's are nothing new, and this POS was in the rumor mill for months, it's a let-down.

The biggest flaw here is that it's building on the iTouch platform, instead of the Macbook platform. It's too restrictive by design.

If it ran a leaner full version of OSX and didn't lockout competition to lock-in the app store, rather than just co-exist with it; it would have been a different ball game altogether at that price range.

I'm eager to play with it a bit, but Apple's already lost the sale from me on principle alone. I fully expect Google to eat this market next year with Chrome OS currently in beta.

Also...No MBP Update? Notebook PC's are running Core i3,i5,i7 chipsets for 2/3 the price of Apple's Core2's.

Come on, get on the ball Apple.

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It's too expensive to hit the target audience.

It's safe to assume that netbooks are more powerful 'right now', and can do a lot more than what apple's trying to box here in this package. Direct benchmarks on the custom processor will likely show minimal difference in performance.

Tablet's are nothing new, and this POS was in the rumor mill for months, it's a let-down.

The biggest flaw here is that it's building on the iTouch platform, instead of the Macbook platform. It's too restrictive by design.

If it ran a leaner full version of OSX and didn't lockout competition to lock-in the app store, rather than just co-exist with it; it would have been a different ball game altogether at that price range.

I'm eager to play with it a bit, but Apple's already lost the sale from me on principle alone. I fully expect Google to eat this market next year with Chrome OS currently in beta.

Also...No MBP Update? Notebook PC's are running Core i3,i5,i7 chipsets for 2/3 the price of Apple's Core2's.

Come on, get on the ball Apple.

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at the end of the day, processor benchmarks mean nothing. It takes a 600mhz processor to run Nestopia in Mac OS X, it took an actual NES 1.79mhz...

The stripped OS of the iPad doesn't need as much processor grunt as a normal, full fledged OS to achieve the same performance on basic tasks. I would say the iPhone is roughly as fast as most computers when loading a web page on Wi-Fi, even though its specs aren't even CLOSE to a desktop computer.

You can't think of this as a full computer, and arguing it vs. netbooks isn't really a valid point since all netbooks can do is super basic shit anyway, I mean, those things gag on a youtube video.

Another Apple product that looks awesome as long as you don't touch it, or let it come in contact with surfaces or other solid objects.

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at the end of the day, processor benchmarks mean nothing. It takes a 600mhz processor to run Nestopia in Mac OS X, it took an actual NES 1.79mhz...

The stripped OS of the iPad doesn't need as much processor grunt as a normal, full fledged OS to achieve the same performance on basic tasks. I would say the iPhone is roughly as fast as most computers when loading a web page on Wi-Fi, even though its specs aren't even CLOSE to a desktop computer.

You can't think of this as a full computer, and arguing it vs. netbooks isn't really a valid point since all netbooks can do is super basic shit anyway, I mean, those things gag on a youtube video.

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Comparisons are meaningless in this context because it's a custom CPU without the details leaked, or the benchmarks performed. Not "because X beat Y at Z" with regards to an emulated piece of software on a CISC proc backbone compared to a 6502 based piece of hardware. :rofl:

You praise the iPhone OS for excelling at pulling it's own weight on 'basic tasks', yet you demonize netbook comparisons because they can only do 'basic shit' :?

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Netbooks can handle full installs of windows 7 premium without any grief. The only issue being the intel classification restrictions demanding 1GB of ram at retail. The trade off is battery life, which can tag 5-10 hours depending on what chipset you're opting for grabbing & it's relativity to how well it performs with Hi-Definition content.

Educate yourself before posting.

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Is there any way to put a button that would copy a quote to the clipboard so it can be pasted into a window?

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Just highlight the text, press Apple + C to copy to the clipboard. Press EDIT on your post, press Apple + V to paste. Type/copy+paste your own QUOTE tags around it (there is also a QUOTE button in the ADVANCED editing mode that looks like a cartoon balloon, kind of, that will wrap the tags around highlighted text). I never use the QUOTE buttons myself. They are very quick and easy to type.

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You praise the iPhone OS for excelling at pulling it's own weight on 'basic tasks', yet you demonize netbook comparisons because they can only do 'basic shit' :?

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Netbooks can handle full installs of windows 7 premium without any grief. The only issue being the intel classification restrictions demanding 1GB of ram at retail. The trade off is battery life, which can tag 5-10 hours depending on what chipset you're opting for grabbing & it's relativity to how well it performs with Hi-Definition content.

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And if I remember correctly, Netbooks are at least 100$ cheaper than the iPad.

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Originally Posted by Elusive

From Engadget's hands-on:

• There's no multitasking at all. It's a real disappointment. All this power and very little you can do with it at once. No multitasking means no streaming Pandora when you're working in Pages... you can figure it out. It's a real setback for this device.

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that to me in Major fail..no multitasking..thats so dumb.

Even as a long time loyal Apple user, I have to say this has FAIL written all over it.

Meh.