DOWNLOADING SATURN/DC ISOS TO CD AND PLAYING THEM ON THE CONSOLE?

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01-30-2010, 03:15 PM
Nobi

DOWNLOADING SATURN/DC ISOS TO CD AND PLAYING THEM ON THE CONSOLE?

i dont know if this topic is a no no here or not, but i was reading about how the threat of piracy helped sega decide on the premature cancellation of the dreamcast, then i remembered playing burned ps1 games at my friends house when i was younger. is it possible to download saturn and or dreamcast isos off of the internet and burn them to a cd and play the cd on my console? do i need anything special(e.g.. some kind of specially designed cd or burning software) and would imported isos(from japanese or european games) work on my american consoles without the action replay cart or whatever you would need for the dc?
01-30-2010, 03:27 PM
Guntz

Most Dreamcasts will play CD-Rs with no modifications. I've heard there's a specific date cut-off for CD-R capable Dreamcasts but I forgot. Oh yeah, burning DC games is a pain in the ASS. I don't recommend it unless you know how to burn discs with "special" needs.

The Saturn needs a modchip to play CD-R games. They're pretty hard to find these days.
01-30-2010, 03:56 PM
Mr. Ksoft

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Originally Posted by Guntz

The Saturn needs a modchip to play CD-R games. They're pretty hard to find these days.

Saturns don't need a mod chip, but it's better for the health of the system. You can also rig the lid to think it's always closed, then use one of the old disc swap tricks. The disadvantage is that you have to do it every time you start a game, and it wears the disc motor out faster. Since I can't afford Saturn games, I've been using this method and it works great.
Also, the modchips aren't that hard to find at all. Check out the first result on Google for "Saturn modchip". I'll be getting myself one soon so I don't kill my beloved Saturn.
01-30-2010, 04:55 PM
NeoVamp

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2...-caps-lock.jpg
01-30-2010, 06:52 PM
retrospiel

Sega CD: works
Dreamcast: works
Saturn: nope*

* requires modchip or swaptrick
01-30-2010, 07:16 PM
Zebbe

I think original games are the best, they require no mod-chips or swaps at all. Try them!
01-30-2010, 07:34 PM
Elusive

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Originally Posted by Zebbe

I think original games are the best, they require no mod-chips or swaps at all. Try them!

Heh. I think you'll find they're 'backups', and you're like Hitler for not telling me where to find free games and telling me step-by-step how to burn them to disc and run them. But they're backups, honest. That makes it legal, because um free speech?

(no, but seriously, I agree. Now that you can get pretty much any Saturn or Dreamcast game for pocket change from eBay or wherever - besides obviously hard-to-find stuff only a hardcrde collector would care about - there's no real reason to mess around with ISOs and modchips unless you're a maschoist.)
01-30-2010, 08:13 PM
NeoVamp

Pirating should be done in silence and not YELLED ABOUT ON FORUMS WHILE USING THE http://www.sega-16.com/forum/images/...e%20Smiley.gif ICON!!

Not condemning pirating though, just saying that if you're gonna do it don't be so ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT!
01-30-2010, 09:13 PM
Wildfire McCloud

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Originally Posted by Elusive

you can get pretty much any Saturn or Dreamcast game for pocket change from eBay or wherever

Dreamcast, pretty much yeah. Saturn, not so much. All of the recommended games go for decent bits of money compared to most Genesis games, some almost or more than brand new games coming out recently. Of course, this also depends on what you call pocket change... I'm in school and don't have a full-time job yet, I don't really have money of my own, so pocket change to me is more like $10 or $15 for a decent retro game. I'd definitely rather have original copies of games. However, in the case of the Saturn, it seems like most people's recommendations are for games that are pricey. So instead of plunking down a good $100 or so for just a few of those games (games which are 15 years old and either have changed very little in price from day one, or even gone up in price), some would rather mod their Saturn so they can enjoy those games they missed out on.

I haven't modded my Saturn, though I have thought about it. And I'm not trying to attack you or it over the cost of some of those games. It's just, by comparison, Genesis, Dreamcast, and most other systems seem a little more reasonable to collect for and play.
01-31-2010, 04:30 PM
Nobi

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Originally Posted by NeoVamp

Pirating should be done in silence and not YELLED ABOUT ON FORUMS WHILE USING THE http://www.sega-16.com/forum/images/...e%20Smiley.gif ICON!!

Not condemning pirating though, just saying that if you're gonna do it don't be so ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT!

im sorry im not really a computer person and im not so up to date with proper forum etiquete so ill turn the volume down a bit

i didnt think it was such a big deal since the games(as well as the consoles they are played on) i was whondering about pirating were discontinued over a decade ago. im new to emulation and i wouldnt dare pirate anything but out of date software i was really just trying to get my hands on radiant silvergun for under the outrageous 200$ asking price. but all of the modding and swaping tricks are a little out of my league so i think ill just stick to the actual games that i can afford.:(
01-31-2010, 04:55 PM
17daysolderthannes

you can play Radiant Silvergun in MAME, but it's still a little slow. There are a couple Sega Saturn emulators that work with varying degrees of performance, I think one of them is pretty good (SSF?).
01-31-2010, 10:12 PM
nathanallan

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Originally Posted by Guntz

Most Dreamcasts will play CD-Rs with no modifications. I've heard there's a specific date cut-off for CD-R capable Dreamcasts but I forgot. Oh yeah, burning DC games is a pain in the ASS. I don't recommend it unless you know how to burn discs with "special" needs.

The Saturn needs a modchip to play CD-R games. They're pretty hard to find these days.

I found a few, they're a bit pricey for such a small part. This is about the cheapest I found:

http://www.segastyle.com/forsale.html Not bad.
01-31-2010, 10:32 PM
Honey the Cat

I'd burn Sonic Jam to a CD-R and play it on my Saturn with a modchip next time I have access to a CD burner.
01-31-2010, 11:34 PM
17daysolderthannes

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Originally Posted by nathanallan

I found a few, they're a bit pricey for such a small part. This is about the cheapest I found:

http://www.segastyle.com/forsale.html Not bad.

It's a small production specialty part, of course it's going to be slightly expensive.

I have the consolegoods.co.uk version (different) and it works good, I just wish they didn't fucking mislead me into wasting 5 hours of troubleshooting to find out that I HAD to use the power coming from the CD plug connector rather than soldering straight to the power supply. Ugh, such a load of BS. And after all that, I come to find most people are retarded and do a shit job of ripping Saturn games. At least I got Radiant Silvergun OK...
02-01-2010, 12:14 AM
Guntz

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Originally Posted by nathanallan

I found a few, they're a bit pricey for such a small part. This is about the cheapest I found:

http://www.segastyle.com/forsale.html Not bad.

I notice they have PAR 4-in-1 units in stock. Has anybody here had experience buying from there? I might be interested in it. :)
02-15-2010, 08:58 PM
Nobi

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Originally Posted by Guntz

Most Dreamcasts will play CD-Rs with no modifications. I've heard there's a specific date cut-off for CD-R capable Dreamcasts but I forgot. Oh yeah, burning DC games is a pain in the ASS. I don't recommend it unless you know how to burn discs with "special" needs.

The Saturn needs a modchip to play CD-R games. They're pretty hard to find these days.

how educated are you on burning dreamcast isos? ive read alot of material that totally contradicts this statement.
02-15-2010, 09:08 PM
17daysolderthannes

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Originally Posted by shinobimusashi

how educated are you on burning dreamcast isos? ive read alot of material that totally contradicts this statement.

little right, alot of wrong.

There is a cutoff date: October 2000, which I believe was first published by the makers of Bleem because their special boot disc wouldn't work on DCs made after that date. That said, I have never seen one nor have I ever come across someone complaining about having one online. It's possible they were only sold in the Japanese market or some other obscure non-English speaking market. If anyone has proof on the contrary, I'm all ears, but I've never seen a single post where someone said "aw crap, I have a November 2000 model!"

As for burning the games, it is RETARDEDLY simple. Download a Dreamcast game in .CDI format, install Padus Diskjuggler trial software (no expiration, just mandatory slow burning speed), double click .CDI file, click burn, done.

He must have confused burning Dreamcast games with ripping Dreamcast games, which requires a wacky wild action bike method of streaming the game through the broadband adapter and reformatting it to normal CD format which may or may not include compressing or removing video cutscenes (usually only on multi-disc games like RPGs).
02-15-2010, 09:15 PM
omp

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Originally Posted by Guntz

I notice they have PAR 4-in-1 units in stock. Has anybody here had experience buying from there? I might be interested in it. :)

Yes I have, No problems at all (inc shipping to Australia). I purchased a modchip and PAR 4 in 1.

A month later I was given a US saturn, with modchip in place:wtf: Ah well.