SUPER Street Fighter 4

[PimpUigi]

That's true, there is an emphasis on fireball characters.

Three of the five top tier characters abuse them, and then we have Zangief and Mike Bison to round out the five.

What other problems?

BTW, I find rinsing the fireballers in the milk of human patience makes them go down nice and easy.

[Why-Disciple]

Oh, they totally lowered the skill bar, that's for sure.

But...SF3 is really bad...

Appealing characters, yes. That's why I got SF4. Zangief is in the game!
Because no one cares if they're playing as Remy, or Guile??? Yea right...

Most people who get into fighting games care about the characters at least a fair bit.

That's why SF3 took so long to become popular.
Capcom alienated their fan base by dropping the cast almost entirely.

I like how the pro SF3 scene is basically dead now compared to SF4.

Also, proof that it's not just because SF4 is new...look at Smash Bros. Brawl, it's tournament scene is roughly as alive as Melee's.

Being new does help both games tournament population, but you'll see in the future the better game will have the higher tournament population.

3S is bad though.
Chun and Yun all day...and some random "let's pretend other characters might be good" matches. (Ken is good too though)

I hope SSF4 fixes the shallow skill needed to be good at 4 though.
Selectable Ultra's is just dumb though. That was one of the problems with 3S.
You find the one that's good, and you just pick that.
Lame.

Not to say, "No Items, Fox Only, Final Destination" or nothing like that though.

What you're saying is true for the casual scene, but not necessarily for the hardcore. 90% of the people I've talked to in the fighting game community agree that 3S is the best of the SF series, and don't give a shit whether they're playing Guile or Remy. Casual gamers that play solely for fun, on the other hand, follow what you're saying about it because they generally don't get technical like I do. I mean, if you're a hardcore SFA fan when SF3 comes out, I doubt you'll say, "Sweet, time to practice for some new tourneys. Wait, no Sagat in this? Fuck that, I'll just wait another ten years before competing again."

About your "let's pretend other characters might be good" argument though, how is that any different from SF4? I went to a tournament last week and nearly everyone in the SF4 tourney played Sagat and Viper. The guys that are usually there for other, less popular games like Melty Blood, just sighed, "yep, another Sagat wins the tourney. Figures." I'm just saying that SF4 is no more balanced than 3S.

[PimpUigi]

Sagat usually doesn't win...I play Zangief and place high enough to make me content, which, you just can't do in SF3 (Hugo is crap)

SF3 is more balanced in the casual scene, so I guess you have that going for you. It's only the pro scene it's completely one sided.
SF4 seems to be semi the opposite. Seven characters do seem to dominate the scene though.

Just as bad as Marvel, Melee, (you see about seven characters) and not as bad IMHO as 3's and Brawl (you see about two dominating, and everyone else losing all the time, ie, if someone picks someone besides Metaknight they're fucked)