Game Bargain of the Century

[Guntz]

Why should I slap myself? This overburn setting was buried in the back of the program away from the options given to you when you burn an image. You can change the write mode but not overburn. Real helpful.

[TheRollingStoner]

I got my DC today and the discs I burned for it work fine, and let me tell you, I love it. DC=WIN.

[Knuckle Duster]

Why should I slap myself? This overburn setting was buried in the back of the program away from the options given to you when you burn an image. You can change the write mode but not overburn. Real helpful.

Tools > Options. (The only options menu in the program)
The window opens to the "Defaults tab." & There's a check box for "Overburn Disc."

HOW is this 'buried in the back of the program'?



I didn't say it would be helpful or not, just that it IS there and was required when burning back when I was into the scene. From your response though, I believe the problem you're having at this point is a pebkac situation.

[Guntz]

I just finished with another copy of Neo4ALL with Metal Slug 2. I burned a Fujifilm CD-R with overburn in DiscJuggler. No other settings disturbed. It does not work. Exact same result produced as the last time, except there was no overburn. Disc tries to spin, stops, tries to spin, stops. Barely making any noises. That makes for the fourth Neo4ALL w/MS2 Frisbee I've made.

This is gonna suck if the file didn't download correctly. That thing was damn near 500MBs and on my connection, it took a hell of a while to download.

I also don't have much else to burn for DC. I have a Sonic ROM compilation but it sucks.

[17daysolderthannes]

All I have are Fujifilm and Staples brand ones, neither worked. I can't find any Sony CD-Rs. That's pretty ridiculous that only one brand works with the Dreamcast. I hate picky machines. No wonder my DC never gets any use, crazy bitch of a game console...

It's not just Sony, I burned plenty of games successfully with imation discs and they're supposed to be the worst of the worst. I just cited Sony b/c they're pretty nice discs.

I got my DC today and the discs I burned for it work fine, and let me tell you, I love it. DC=WIN.

Another happy customer.

I think there's something wrong with Guntz's burner. Hey Guntz, why not see if you have a friend with a newer computer and try it on theirs? I don't think they would mind if you brought it over on a flash drive and installed DiscJuggler real quick just to burn a disc. Did you try blowing out your own CD Burner with canned air? Burning a disc is just the same as reading the disc, if the laser is dirty, it will have problems. What kind of computer do you have, btw? some stats might help. Is it running Vista? Vista has a way of fucking up everything.

To everyone else:

hoooooly shit, check this out!

http://dcisozone.com/downloads/1660/...-emulator.html

I'm not sure if it's an official game or not, but it isn't a US release, so it's not violating copyrights if you download it for non-profit use AFAIK.



apparently it's a super obscure Japanese PSX game converted to a Bleem! disc for DC. What.The.Fudge.

[Guntz]

It's not just Sony, I burned plenty of games successfully with imation discs and they're supposed to be the worst of the worst. I just cited Sony b/c they're pretty nice discs.

I think I have one Imation CD-R left. I'll save that once I establish what the problem is.

I think there's something wrong with Guntz's burner. Hey Guntz, why not see if you have a friend with a newer computer and try it on theirs? I don't think they would mind if you brought it over on a flash drive and installed DiscJuggler real quick just to burn a disc.

My little sister has a tower PC pre-assembled (like bought from an OEM). Maybe I'll try it on her's. It's much newer than mine. She also has Windows XP Home on it.

Did you try blowing out your own CD Burner with canned air?

Nope, because I don't have cans of air nor do I even know where to buy them. I've only ever heard of them on the internet.

Burning a disc is just the same as reading the disc, if the laser is dirty, it will have problems.

Except I've written Sega CD discs with this very same burner and had no problems. Even the Staples brand CD-Rs worked fine. The DC is just a bitch.

What kind of computer do you have, btw? some stats might help. Is it running Vista? Vista has a way of fucking up everything.

Alrighty. I have Windows XP Professional SP3. Non-OEM (made with off-the-shelf parts) so no crap on the HDD other than my own (not to mention I re-installed Windows XP at one point since owning it). The machine is 2 years old roughly. I think I have some sort of Lite-On DVDRAM burner. Have no clue why it has a Microsoft driver rather than it's own. If that's an issue I could dig around for a driver disc.

[17daysolderthannes]

you can get canned air at wal-mart in the computer section next to the CD-Rs

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...duster&x=0&y=0

[TheRollingStoner]

I just finished with another copy of Neo4ALL with Metal Slug 2. I burned a Fujifilm CD-R with overburn in DiscJuggler. No other settings disturbed. It does not work. Exact same result produced as the last time, except there was no overburn. Disc tries to spin, stops, tries to spin, stops. Barely making any noises. That makes for the fourth Neo4ALL w/MS2 Frisbee I've made.

That's how I burned all the games I've done so far and it's worked great for me. Maybe you need to use a more modern burner or something. I wasted 2 discs so far, but I believe it was a bad image of Virtua Tennis. You probably sjould try it out on a different PC. I burned a copy of Metal Slug X, but it has a good bit of slowdown, but it's still playable. Hope you figure this out soon so you don't have too many coasters laying around.

[gamevet]

I just finished with another copy of Neo4ALL with Metal Slug 2. I burned a Fujifilm CD-R with overburn in DiscJuggler. No other settings disturbed. It does not work. Exact same result produced as the last time, except there was no overburn. Disc tries to spin, stops, tries to spin, stops. Barely making any noises. That makes for the fourth Neo4ALL w/MS2 Frisbee I've made.

This is gonna suck if the file didn't download correctly. That thing was damn near 500MBs and on my connection, it took a hell of a while to download.

I also don't have much else to burn for DC. I have a Sonic ROM compilation but it sucks.

Is it possible that you have one of the Dreamcasts that won't play a standard CD?

Try putting a music CD in there and see if it will play it.

[Guntz]

Is it possible that you have one of the Dreamcasts that won't play a standard CD?

Try putting a music CD in there and see if it will play it.

It was manufactured in June of 2000, that was a bit before the removal of MIL-CD support. It plays Music CDs and to this day, I have only gotten two homebrew discs to work.

MAMED: No ROMs appeared. Menu loaded.
Sonic ROM Compilation: All the games were glitchy. Sound skipped.

[Knuckle Duster]

If there's one major flaw about that website everyone's praising, it's that the content doesn't have any MD5 hash's for the images, unless I'm missing something?

[retrospiel]

It plays Music CDs and to this day, I have only gotten two homebrew discs to work.

That means that you got a MIL-CD compatible Dreamcast.

I burned a copy of Metal Slug X, but it has a good bit of slowdown, but it's still playable.

That's why I'd recommend Neo4All/CD instead of the AES version. Both emulators use the same cores but games bigger than ~20 Mbytes (uncompressed) will slow down while the Dreamcast is loading the game's data from the disc. In addition it's noteworthy that the sound emulation isn't quite there yet so using the CD games gets rid of both of these issues.

That said, Metal Slug 2 still runs terrible, although it's probably the game itself that's to blame. It runs pretty much perfectly if you overclock the 68k emulation to 18 Mhz via the emulator's settings, and deactivate frameskip.

All in all I'd say you'd still be much better off with buying a Metal Slug collection for PS2 or Wii (or download it for Virtual Console) and stick with playing other games on Dreamcast

[Guntz]

So what's wrong then? My Burner? The disc image itself? CD-R brand? My DC's laser assembly?

I'm gonna finish downloading the parts for this big Neo4ALL set, so I'll test that. I'm also gonna give my little sister's drive one go, to see if it fixes anything. Still, my DVDRAM drive burns Sega CD games fine, what's different about DC games?

[Knuckle Duster]

So what's wrong then? My Burner? The disc image itself? CD-R brand?

I'm gonna finish downloading the parts for this big Neo4ALL set, so I'll test that. I'm also gonna give my little sister's drive one go, to see if it fixes anything. Still, my DVDRAM drive burns Sega CD games fine, what's different about DC games?

You're not configuring the burning software right.
You're using media that isn't compatible with your DC.
The image is bad.

Nobody knows, troubleshoot it.

Get a spindle and weed out the settings. Turn off buffer protection. Make sure RAW is enabled. Make sure 3rd party post-gap is enabled. Try changing between Mode 1 or Mode 2 burning. If you already have discs that work, use the same brand.

[retrospiel]

You might also want to give Alcohol120% a chance which is what I am using (although my version is quite a few years old by now).

And CDRWs won't work btw.