Game Bargain of the Century

[Guntz]

There's no 'Point by Point' breakdown to be made here.

The saddle lipped analog shoulder buttons contrast the tiny stiff oddly placed piece of shit Z button. It's like they took aesthetic design to extremes everywhere on the controller.

Face buttons with pressure sensitivity were used in enough games to make a difference to the I/O. In metal gear solid 2 you could back off slowly without shooting someone. In racing games you had the extra dynamic option of letting off the gas without braking, when making turns to qualify. This is not possible on the gamecube.



Subjective nit picking?! Just, shut up and go back to Gamefaqs Koopa64, your pretentious know-it-all attitude flew high in that scene, but it won't score you any points here, especially with arguing nonsensical irrelevancies like 'It IS in the same generation you know.' Of course we know. Who are you calling the fanboy?



You're looking to argue rather than read what's being said. 'I' mentioned the Duke, because it's absurd to compare the Dreacmast, which came out in early 99 to the Xbox as far as hardware is concerned. It's 2-3 years ahead, of course it will be better. The controller S didn't come standard until 2002. Comparing it as being better than the dreamcast is again, absurd.



The point is that the comparison itself can't be made fairly! You're an idiot.

You know what? You say I'm a pretentious know-it-all, but I could say the very same about you. Just reading over your responses is telling me you don't like having yourself mirrored.

I feel as if I know you from somewhere...

Oh yeah, I see no point in arguing any of your replies as it's pretty clear you do not want an answer.

[Puffy2k316]

Soul Calibur is perfectly balanced though. A seasoned player should be able to block and throw everything a button masher gives them. As with all fighters, it comes down to learning how to play properly. This is why Virtua Fighter is awesome.

Comparing soul calibur to virtua fighter is like comparing mortal kombat to street fighter

[Knuckle Duster]

You know what? You say I'm a pretentious know-it-all, but I could say the very same about you. Just reading over your responses is telling me you don't like having yourself mirrored.

The day you make sense & can convey your opinion without jumping to condescending conclusions, is the day I will harbor the faintest thought of you 'mirroring' me in the slightest.

I feel as if I know you from somewhere...

You don't.

Oh yeah, I see no point in arguing any of your replies as it's pretty clear you do not want an answer.

An answer to what? I'm not asking anything. All you're doing is stating your opinion on why 'PS2', which nobody was talking about, sucks compared to 'GC/Xbox'. Furthermore you're blaming one guy for saying something someone else (me) said as a condescending justification for your personal tangent.

I thought pointing out the crazy-talk put forward by Englaze as being 'illogical' would be easy to digest for most people here, but apparently you prefer to wedge yourself in an argument of your own design where ever possible. It's not exactly troll bait material, but it's worthy of a snubbing in the context you put forward.

State your opinion all you want, don't get bitchy when someone points out differences to you.

Comparing soul calibur to virtua fighter is like comparing mortal kombat to street fighter

I wouldn't normally compare them at all, outside of saying that they both achieve a perfect control balance in what they offer. VF being the series with the most depth IMO.

[17daysolderthannes]

Comparing soul calibur to virtua fighter is like comparing mortal kombat to street fighter

which is a good comparison...

I mean, Mortal Kombat lacks the depth and fine-tuned-ness of SF, but the overall style of the game is very similar: 1 on 1, special moves using charge/tap/quarter circles, variety of kicks and punches that don't lead to pre-determined combos. Mortal Kombat may not be as polished as SF, but they're more comparable than almost any other fighters of the time, alongside Eternal Champions and Fatal Fury (2 and special more specifically, 1 is in its own world).

[mugenmidget]

Dreamcast is rad, I play Power Stone 2 more than Smash Brothers. Ultimate party game!

It'd also be my favorite for Street Fighter if the port of Super Turbo was in 240p, but that honor is reserved for the PSX/Saturn. I think the "Vampire Collection" might suffer the same problem, but more importantly it's not nearly as arcade accurate as the Saturn version of Vampire Savior. Still an interesting game to mess with, though, can't really go wrong as a casual fan of the series.

Lots of great fighters on both Saturn and DC. Not that big of a fan of the NES emulator (NesterDC SE, which was AMAZING when it first released and is still very awesome), because while it has some very cool features, it also lacks a true 240p mode. The Wii's FCE Ultra GX is a lot better, you can get the native resolution and use SMB file sharing to load ROMs over the network. That and SD cards make it easier to add new games instead of burning new CDs or DVDs all the time, and gives you plenty of room for save RAM and save states.

I used to also enjoy Snes9xGx through Wii, but don't use it as much any more thanks to the SNES Neo Myth (still good for the currently unsupported special DSP games, though). Same for Genesis emulators, not much of a point to them once you have a flash card.

Um, looks like I forgot this was a Dreamcast topic. Dreamcast is still cool, Psychic Force forever!

[acdc]

Blinded by coolness, enough to post your latest buy in a Dreamcast thread without noticing.

what can i say mastersystem beats dreamcast in coolness

[Knuckle Duster]

Looks like someone didn't log out.

[acdc]

yeah that s my little brother that was in the house
gonna hit im hard for that one

[Rusty Venture]

Dreamcast is rad, I play Power Stone 2 more than Smash Brothers. Ultimate party game!

Other than being pretty weak on levels, Power Stone 2 is the most rocking party game in the history of ever.

I can't get enough of slapping people around with fish and dropping meteors on them.

[mugenmidget]

Haha, amen. What's funny is I felt the same way about the lack of levels but hadn't even played on the weird secret ones until VERY recently. They don't make up for it, but I can't believe they eluded me for so long!

[17daysolderthannes]

Not that big of a fan of the NES emulator (NesterDC SE, which was AMAZING when it first released and is still very awesome), because while it has some very cool features, it also lacks a true 240p mode.

I don't see what the big deal is with 240p. IMO, 240p looks worse than 480i. My gripe with Nester DC is the slightly high controller lag (not unplayable, but noticeable and takes some getting used to, it also screws me up in intense games of tetris and other games that require split second pin point precision).

[mugenmidget]

Hm, does NesterDCSE still have that issue? I remember when Scherzo was working on it that was one of the things he was targetting to fix from the previous NesterDC (I think it was 7.1 but I'm not sure).

There actually used to be input lag in FCE Ultra GX, but it has been severely diminished in the latest release. That's one reason you usually want the native resolution, anything else is being filtered or upscaled in some fashion which will add lag of varying degrees. But that really depends more on how the emulator is programmed.

The real reasons I prefer 240p include nostalgia along with wanting 60 fps and generally not being a fan of interlacing/flicker. At the same time though, I know scanlines drive some people nuts, so I can see why interlaced is preferable for some. I don't remember if NesterDCSE worked with the VGA box (and maybe you could force it even if it didn't), but if it does then I guess a lot of the things I mentioned are non-issues.

On a side note: IMBNes on PSX was nice for its time as well. Input lag was minimal and you got a 240p picture.

[Guntz]

The day you make sense & can convey your opinion without jumping to condescending conclusions, is the day I will harbor the faintest thought of you 'mirroring' me in the slightest.

See the third quote down...

You don't.

That's what you'd like me to think.

An answer to what? I'm not asking anything. All you're doing is stating your opinion on why 'PS2', which nobody was talking about, sucks compared to 'GC/Xbox'. Furthermore you're blaming one guy for saying something someone else (me) said as a condescending justification for your personal tangent.

I thought pointing out the crazy-talk put forward by Englaze as being 'illogical' would be easy to digest for most people here, but apparently you prefer to wedge yourself in an argument of your own design where ever possible. It's not exactly troll bait material, but it's worthy of a snubbing in the context you put forward.

Well I applaud you for not insulting me more. Here I thought you were just one of those run-of-the-mill trolls. Yes I will remove myself from the topic. Personally I'd rather talk about the DC instead.

State your opinion all you want, don't get bitchy when someone points out differences to you.

Whatever...

[Rusty Venture]

Haha, amen. What's funny is I felt the same way about the lack of levels but hadn't even played on the weird secret ones until VERY recently. They don't make up for it, but I can't believe they eluded me for so long!

Yeah, those extra levels are yawn-tastic. The city one is my absolute least favorite, you spend more time trying not to fall than kicking ass.

But damn I love those more advanced weapons. Lance of Lava, Dragon Sword, Mega Buster, Motor Scooter....all jawusum.

[MrMatthews]

In regards to the pissing match between Guntz and Knuckle Duster:

Yes, Guntz, KD is something of a know-it-all and he's kind of a dick, but he's our dick. I happen to like him, but then again I've never been on the wrong side of a debate with him (that he's made me aware of, anyway).

It might be best to not have any opinions for a few weeks, since you've been involved in a lot of arguments lately.