Your personal hate in the gaming world.

[kool kitty89]

Ambient sounds are not going into the music category, though I don't like them either... I want good tunes during the game, not nature etc. sounds or cutscene music...

Most of PSX/Saturn Doom (and Doom 64) has some instrumental stuff to it, not just sounds, but there's not much actual *real* music so to speak, not even the overly "epic/cinematic" stuff you get in some others.
You get stuff like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYX-7juLBUo

And I don't mind that sort of stuff in a Survival horror game (not to much else that fits for long periods -some real music in some areas too), but not for action games -I do like the cinematic stuff in a few cases, but it depends on the game and you can still have good energy in orchestral stuff.
But Myst vs Return to Zork comes to mind in terms of ambient sound vs music+some ambient sound. (the floppy version of RTZ was all midi even, though the CD version had a mix of WAV and midi stuff -and oddly some WAV tracks that only had the midi renditions used in-game as well as other unused bonus tracks -of the midi stuff, I definitely had an affinity of the FM renditions, only OPL2 I think, but I still like it more than the general midi -I like most of the streamed tracks though)

But then at the title you get this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC2FTuwLawo (and a similar arrangement in Doom 64's intro)

It's almost like they were taunting you about the in-game soundtrack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6HjIdEXafk

Even the credits music is more lively than some of the in-game tracks.

The title theme actually reminds me of the Adventures of Batman and Robin music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DLsiYgr5tY
and the title music to the SCD Batman and Robin game for that matter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daVUII1NVRM (some good tunes in that game too )

[ApolloBoy]

Most of PSX/Saturn Doom (and Doom 64) has some instrumental stuff to it, not just sounds, but there's not much actual *real* music so to speak, not even the overly "epic/cinematic" stuff you get in some others.
You get stuff like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYX-7juLBUo

And I don't mind that sort of stuff in a Survival horror game (not to much else that fits for long periods -some real music in some areas too), but not for action games -I do like the cinematic stuff in a few cases, but it depends on the game and you can still have good energy in orchestral stuff.

I think I may have talked about this with you in RL, but I really like Aubrey Hodges' music used in the console ports of Doom. So much so that I actually downloaded a WAD that inserts the console music into the original game. IMO, it adds a whole new atmosphere to the game and makes it really unsettling, especially if you play it in the dark late at night...

[nathanallan]

Dickheads that bash this system over the other system that they don't like. Big frekkin deal, so you think Doom looks better on the SNES than on the 32X. Good for you jerkwad. It's a classic game on both classic systems. I have them both and they're fun, so STFU. Just using Doom as an example, I could have used Pitfall: Mayan Adventure.

Also, I hate people who steal from indie game shops. Those people really suck donkey cock.

Sorry guys, the thread got me going really good on a night that I have a pretty good headache going, sol had to vent. Thanks for the opportunity.

[nissling]

I hate young and modern "gamers" because they simply ignore everything about Sega.

[Knuckle Duster]

I hate the price of games. They should be 10 bucks for extra special editions with bonus content, cloth maps, action figures, and free cookie vouchers.

[BeastShadow]

- Sony for shutting down Psygnosis
- Games that are sold on how they look, rather than how they play.
- The lack of PC games being developed since the XBox.
- Trying to play an FPS on console controllers.
- Marketing / management influences and their refusal to develop games the fall outside of a know profitable genre.
- Me not having enough time to play all the games I love.

[acdc]

i hate 3d games not all of them
but i really want my old 2d back without 3d backgrounds
i hate it
and where a new alex the kidd adventure or a ninja gaiden to for the sms
i hate mobile phones if that fucking thing is so fucking important
o yeah for i forget hyves and all that other sites where you can meet friends or become friends with a total stranger
what the fuck is wrong about going to a cafe and talk to someone or is that strange but people like to talk on the onternet to strangers but don t have to talk to strangers in real life jesus

[Kollision]

downloadable shit
having to be online in order to play a game
having to endure whiners that are never satisfied with anything and thus kill new developers even before they can get any developing momentum
having to weave through Japanese menus in my Japanese 360 games
getting WTF faces everytime I talk about the kind of games I play
mainstream websites writing pure garbage about good games
achievements and trophies
stupid emphasis on extras and other related shit damn i want a game to play well i don't care about cut scenes galleries etc if i want to see a movie i go see a movie dammit

[Kollision]

[M4R14NO94]

That doesn't REALLY look like you wrote it

And another thing:

I hate it when your friends and/or cousins say that you're "weird" (for them) because you like retro gaming, and that I should play newer games. Seriously, I'd take FPS games like Doom and Duke Nukem 3D over your war games these days (although Battlefield: Bad Company 2 was pretty good)

Also, related to me, the fact that your friends, cousins and brothers think that Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing sucks (except for my 6 year-old brother, who loves it as much as I do, and one of my friends, who loves)

And on the topic of kart racing games, something I don't really hate, but I don't like either: the Mario Kart series. They're not bad at all, but I prefer Crash Team Racing and All-Stars Racing over them

[TrekkiesUnite118]

I hate how extra controllers cost over $50 this generation.

[kool kitty89]

I think I may have talked about this with you in RL, but I really like Aubrey Hodges' music used in the console ports of Doom. So much so that I actually downloaded a WAD that inserts the console music into the original game. IMO, it adds a whole new atmosphere to the game and makes it really unsettling, especially if you play it in the dark late at night...

I think you mentioned that: what that in regards to the Doom64 soundtrack or the Saturn/PSX one?

It certainly makes it feel different from the other music, and for the creepy feel, it's better than just no music at all.

The Silent Hill series definitely wouldn't be the same without the soundtrack managed the way it is.


I'm not really up on some of the newer action/FPS games, but one trend seems to be to have a subtle soundtrack (or plain ambient noises) in areas with a lull in action, but have the music come in dynamically depending on what's going on. (I mean FPS games 10 years ago were doing that too, and other genres before that)

Dickheads that bash this system over the other system that they don't like. Big frekkin deal, so you think Doom looks better on the SNES than on the 32X. Good for you jerkwad. It's a classic game on both classic systems. I have them both and they're fun, so STFU. Just using Doom as an example, I could have used Pitfall: Mayan Adventure.

Anyone who thinks SNES doom looks better than any other version needs to have their eyes checked. ... (OK it's probably a lot worse on a 16 MHz 386SX PC )

[Ecco]

I hate the wimpy, nasally voice of Sonic in much / all of his games after the Genesis era, starting with Sonic Adventure on Dreamcast. I know it's one of the best 3D Sonic games, as well as the 1st one, but personally I can't stand poor Sonic's voice. Regrettably I also played thru Sonic Heroes on PS2 & can't stand his voice there either. I haven't followed his later games but AFAIK his voice is always similar and awful lol

It wasn't great in the old Sonic cartoons either IMO. I generally disliked the Saturday morning one & didn't watch it, but I did like the slapstick weekday morn cartoon. It was awesome before school. His voice wasn't great in either cartoon IMO but it worked at least for the weekday one, because it was so comical and slapstick.

[Bablefish]

The people who ran Atari after Nolan Bushnell departed. They killed what could of been some amazing stuff. Just check out any prototype sites. It's enough to make anyone sick.

[Phosis]

Two things: one is young kids who cannot seem to appreciate anything before the Halo games, or Modern Warfare. While I also enjoy games like this (to an extent) respects have to be payed to the roots of gaming; everything right from Pong, all the way up to 16 bit and early 32 bit systems, and everything in between. I don't want to meet the person who never sat in front of a computer screen playing DOOM until the wee hours of the morning. I have nothing to say to the guy who was not deeply entrenched in the SNES Vs. Genesis battlefield when both were neck and neck. I have no interest in the man who did not sit in a darkened room in front of an Atari 2600 (which, back then goddammit, we just called fucking "Atari!") while playing Empire Strikes Back, or Missile Command. And the guy who has no love for Super Mario Bros and Duck Hunt? Yeah, fuck him.

The Atari and the NES comprised my earliest memories. If I had to pick two systems to own, and only two, it would be the NES and the Sega Genesis. If I had to pick one, I would kill myself. And anyone who is unable to appreciate their awesomeness, or the monumental efforts that were then required to program for these systems (especially Atari) due to strict technical limitations, should kill themselves.

Honestly, nowadays, developers seem to be given an overabundance of horsepower to work with. Imagine trying to come out with a decent game where you only had 4k of fucking ram to work with? Now many out there can't even seem to manage to make a good game with what is in comparison UNLIMITED amounts of memory, etc. The focus is all on graphics, cinematics, and storytelling; gone are the glory days where the main character could be a frog, or a line, or a load of bread, for gods sakes. We have abandoned simplistic gameplay for something more infinitely complex; but I have JUST AS MUCH if NOT MORE fun playing archaic games as I do more modern ones.

Dang yungins. What I DO like to see is that there are kids on YouTube and the like who are posting reviews of all these old systems, who can't be more than 12-14 years old. Puts a little tear in this old (but still very young) mans eye.

My kid will not be allowed to touch an Xbox or a Playstation until he is much much older. He will be playing Sega and Atari and Nintendo with dad, instead. (or she)