Genesis games on Wii?

[joshvox]

So, I noticed today that on the wii shopping channel there are alot of genesis games that are really expensive (alien solider, musha, gunstar heroes) available for download. My question is--how are these games in general? Is the playing experience pretty good, or should I just wait (gonna be a really long wait!) until I can shell out the cash to buy the games? How do these games work with the wii controllers? Don't guess they have a pad equivalent to a sega controller do they? Are sound and graphics pretty good?

I'd also like to get Super Metroid--that's awesome because I don't even have an SNES.

[GohanX]

I'd say go ahead and grab them, they are cheap. I bought Gunstar Heroes as soon as it was put up on the shop channel, and although I own it on Genesis these days I still play it on Wii from time to time.

A classic controller is a must for any game that uses more than two buttons though. The one thing I don't like about the Wii VC games is the inability to remap the buttons, but since most Genesis games allowed for button remaps anyway you can work around it.

[mrbigreddog]

You can always go with this!



But it will only work with a 3 button Genesis controller, not a 6 button...

[Jared]

http://www.raphnet-tech.com/products...egory=Adapters

you could always get this adapter that allows you to use actual Genesis pads on Wii though the Gamecube controller ports. I have one and it works great.

[Dirk Funk]

I have MUSHA on the VC.

It's good. . . but then again, I hadn't played the original game since 1993 or so.

MUSHA, Pulseman, and Alien Soldier are good downloads. . . since the carts cost 100 or more.

[Zoltor]

You see the problem is, Nintendo doesn't price things individually on the VC(which in most cases, is a good thing, as it means we aren't getting nickle, and dimed to death), the problem is however, is with Genesis games, most games are hardly worth the amount of money, that the raw materials that the game was made with would cost.


However with that said, the prices are still pretty cheap overall, and you need to remember had you bought them online, you most likely would've needed to spend around that anyway, if not more(with s/h fees), so you can't win either way.

Also while a lot of games are not much of a deal, try and get games like Shining Force 2 in r/l for 8 bucks lol, It's not gonna happen.

[kool kitty89]

You see the problem is, Nintendo doesn't price things individually on the VC(which in most cases, is a good thing, as it means we aren't getting nickle, and dimed to death), the problem is however, is with Genesis games, most games are hardly worth the amount of money, that the raw materials that the game was made with would cost.

I'm not sure what you mean...

Do you mean that the real carts are easier to find as cheap or cheaper? (which is true for many of the common games -though also for some N64/SNES/NES games -less so than Sega stuff due to the larger number of nintendo fans willing to pay high prices for certain games, though you've got a few Genesis games like that too, and others that were never released or translated -some with fan translations though if you emulate or use flash carts.... well you'd be emulating anyway for anything on VC -and then there's various compilations as well)

Or are you saying the games themselves lack value? (which is a rather inflammatory generalization)

[Zoltor]

I'm not sure what you mean...

Do you mean that the real carts are easier to find as cheap or cheaper? (which is true for many of the common games -though also for some N64/SNES/NES games -less so than Sega stuff due to the larger number of nintendo fans willing to pay high prices for certain games, though you've got a few Genesis games like that too, and others that were never released or translated -some with fan translations though if you emulate or use flash carts.... well you'd be emulating anyway for anything on VC -and then there's various compilations as well)

Or are you saying the games themselves lack value? (which is a rather inflammatory generalization)

I'm speaking of monetary value(I'm not saying they suck or anything like that, some do sure, just like some of the NES/SNES games uplaoded sucks as well), lets be real, aside from the Shining force games(including Shining in the Darkness), and possibly the Phantasy Star games, almost every Genesis game can be had for 10 bucks or less if you look around, so you're not really gonna beable to DL them for much cheaper, then they would cost in r/l.

I would inturn suggest if you want a Gen game, just buy the real game.

[Knuckle Duster]

Comparing the monetary value of games that are incredibly cheap in the after market to ones that are similarly priced for download doesn't really make a difference now.

The effort involved in buying hardware, and tracking down or shopping for old carts, as well as their storage, is offset by the convenience of having a modern console able to store and run them almost identically. The argument could only tilt to favor the VC if the aftermarket prices went up.

As they are now, it's more convenient for the average consumer to pick up games while vegging on the couch in front of a Wii, the price 'IS' high, but not too much.

This could only change in the case of the Genesis IMO if suddenly those clone handhelds took off and saturated the market again, but they're too expensive and 'cheaply made' to do it. If they were something like $19.99 brand new & in every walmart, "maybe" the VC would take a hit from it, and maybe the value of it's convenience would be under fire.

Of course, there's the emulation argument as well, which has been done to death a thousand times. Convenience is basically what the VC rides on. It does what it does, well enough to pay for.

So, I noticed today that on the wii shopping channel there are alot of genesis games that are really expensive (alien solider, musha, gunstar heroes) available for download. My question is--how are these games in general? Is the playing experience pretty good, or should I just wait (gonna be a really long wait!) until I can shell out the cash to buy the games? How do these games work with the wii controllers? Don't guess they have a pad equivalent to a sega controller do they? Are sound and graphics pretty good?

I'd also like to get Super Metroid--that's awesome because I don't even have an SNES.

You can play Genesis games using the Wii remote, but it's DPad is small and stiff, and ABC are mapped oddly to it. If you're looking at SNES games too, pick up a Classic Controller Pro, it will make your life a lot easier. SNES games need either a classic controller or a Gamecube controller, you can't use just the Wii remote.

[Dirk Funk]

I'm speaking of monetary value(I'm not saying they suck or anything like that, some do sure, just like some of the NES/SNES games uplaoded sucks as well), lets be real, aside from the Shining force games(including Shining in the Darkness), and possibly the Phantasy Star games, almost every Genesis game can be had for 10 bucks or less if you look around, so you're not really gonna beable to DL them for much cheaper, then they would cost in r/l.

I would inturn suggest if you want a Gen game, just buy the real game.

In most cases, yes.

But a lot of people out there aren't going to spend $100 on MUSHA or Alien Soldier and may still want to play it, on their TV, and not load their computer with viruses.

You will not find a copy of MUSHA in the wild for 10 bucks (unless you find it at goodwill and are VERY lucky).

I agree that buying a copy of Sonic The Hedgehog on VC or XBL is sort of dumb. Then again, most people aren't still playing their Sega Genesis.

[cyb]

if you have a crt tv, the wii has a big advantage over pc based emulation: it displays the games in 240p with scanlines. sure, you can do this with a pc and an emulator but getting 240p out of a video card is a huge pain in the ass compared to just plugging in a wii and playing.

[Waterfaller]

if you have a crt tv, the wii has a big advantage over pc based emulation: it displays the games in 240p with scanlines. sure, you can do this with a pc and an emulator but getting 240p out of a video card is a huge pain in the ass compared to just plugging in a wii and playing.

Not only that, but I play my VC games on my HDTV through component cables, and lemme tell you, these games look FANTASTIC at 480p

[joshvox]

I would inturn suggest if you want a Gen game, just buy the real game.

I am planning on buying all the games I want for Genesis eventually. I don't believe that any VC, emulator, or whatever can replace the experience of actually playing the original on the Genesis/MD. However, I think if these games that are more expensive (like Alien Solider in particular--which I really, REALLY want but can't afford) are decent in a VC format, I will probably pick them up just as a stand in until I can afford the real thing, not as replacement for the real thing. It's all about cash flow for me haha. I won't be buying Sonic 2 on the VC for example, since you can pick it up for a buck.

[Dirk Funk]

I am planning on buying all the games I want for Genesis eventually. I don't believe that any VC, emulator, or whatever can replace the experience of actually playing the original on the Genesis/MD. However, I think if these games that are more expensive (like Alien Solider in particular--which I really, REALLY want but can't afford) are decent in a VC format, I will probably pick them up just as a stand in until I can afford the real thing, not as replacement for the real thing. It's all about cash flow for me haha. I won't be buying Sonic 2 on the VC for example, since you can pick it up for a buck.

Exactly.

I feel the same way about the Turbo CD / PC Engine CD games on the Wii. Right now, I am not going to buy a $200 system and spend another $100 for Castlevania: Rondo of Blood.

I'm doing OK as far a money is concerned, but $100 - $300 for a game just seems really illogical to me at this point when I can get the enjoyment out of it for $10.

I'm trying to save money to buy a car, an pay for it in full. I can't be THAT ridiculous with my money right now.

[WaverBoy]

Pick up an EverDrive, load it with games, and play it on your original hardware. Problem solved.