VIDEOGAME COLLECTOR DVDS NOW FOR SALE! VOL. 3 US SEGA SYSTEMS NOW READY TO SHIP

[Lastcallhall]

You know, I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed by the rather trollish tone of some of the responses here. I peeked over here created another account to see what the responses to my friend's vids were (didn't realize until yesterday I could have 2 accounts), and was pretty irritated ant the quality of the posts. I joined up to respond to this attract attention.

Guys, some of you are being pretty rude honest here. I can quite understand if you don't want to buy the DVDs swlovinist is I am selling, but being insulting is really uncalled for, as is putting down his my DVDs without actually seeing them.

Just so you know, swlovinist is I am not just some random guy making a vid. He is I am one of the biggest game collectors in the US. Don't believe me? Have a look at this: http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj28/swlovinist/

In fact, he has I have a complete, boxed Genesis Master System, Sega CD and 32x collection, as you can probably tell from the huge wall along the back of his garage. It's quite a sight. I know of no one who loves Sega more than he doesI do. His knowledge of gaming history is encyclopedic. He put a lot of care into these videos.

And as far as 'doing things for free' to support the love of gaming, I am willing to bet he does I do a lot more than many do. He'sI am one of the organizers of the Portland Retrogaming Expo (as am I). Believe me, we both I believe that I give quite a lot of our my personal time to promoting the hobby. Hundreds of hours a year, in fact.

And there is nothing wrong with producing a video to sell. He's I've spent dozens of hours filming these, and I think they are really quite good. They were very well received at the Portland Show, and at Classic Gaming Expo my moms book club this year. Many of the popular youtube shows do exactly the same thing too, by the way, as Classic Gameroom HD (A real gaming site) sells videos for example. So do others. It's not a crime to sell something to support your collecting, you know.

Now, no one is forcing you to buy them of course, and I respect your opinions about doing things for free. But there's a difference between declining to buy something politely, and insulting the guy who made them. Comments about 'crack' and 'how soon will they be up on torrents' etc are just being unnecessarily rude, and frankly, this only accomplishes two things: it alienates potential members of your community (both swlovinist and myself in this case), and makes the entire forum look petulant and trollish.

Blah, blah, blah, blah...

Now maybe we've just gotten off on the wrong foot here. Both swlovinist and I have been wanting a Sega-specific community to join for awhile now. He's a Sega fanatic, as you can probably tell from the pics. I'm a big fan myself.

So, why the unnecessary rudeness people?

Please buy my DVDs.

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[Mista_Ed]

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[geralds]

You know, I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed by the rather trollish tone of some of the responses here. I peeked over here to see what the responses to my friend's vids were (didn't realize until yesterday there was a sega-specific forum), and was pretty irritated ant the quality of the posts. I joined up to respond to this.

Guys, some of you are being pretty rude here. I can quite understand if you don't want to buy the DVDs swlovinist is selling, but being insulting is really uncalled for, as is putting down his DVDs without actually seeing them.

Just so you know, swlovinist is not just some random guy making a vid. He is one of the biggest game collectors in the US. Don't believe me? Have a look at this: http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj28/swlovinist/

In fact, he has a complete, boxed Genesis Master System, Sega CD and 32x collection, as you can probably tell from the huge wall along the back of his garage. It's quite a sight. I know of no one who loves Sega more than he does. His knowledge of gaming history is encyclopedic. He put a lot of care into these videos.

And as far as 'doing things for free' to support the love of gaming, I am willing to bet he does a lot more than many do. He's one of the organizers of the Portland Retrogaming Expo (as am I). Believe me, we both give quite a lot of our personal time to promoting the hobby. Hundreds of hours a year, in fact.

And there is nothing wrong with producing a video to sell. He's spent dozens of hours filming these, and they are really quite good. They were very well received at the Portland Show, and at Classic Gaming Expo this year. Many of the popular youtube shows do exactly the same thing too, by the way, as Classic Gameroom HD sells videos for example. So do others. It's not a crime to sell something to support your collecting, you know.

Now, no one is forcing you to buy them of course, and I respect your opinions about doing things for free. But there's a difference between declining to buy something politely, and insulting the guy who made them. Comments about 'crack' and 'how soon will they be up on torrents' etc are just being unnecessarily rude, and frankly, this only accomplishes two things: it alienates potential members of your community (both swlovinist and myself in this case), and makes the entire forum look petulant and trollish.

Now maybe we've just gotten off on the wrong foot here. Both swlovinist and I have been wanting a Sega-specific community to join for awhile now. He's a Sega fanatic, as you can probably tell from the pics. I'm a big fan myself.

So, why the unnecessary rudeness people?

I agree nothing wrong with selling something to fund your hobby. The fact is if people are already trolling this enough just don't respond and give up. The more you try the more you gong to provoke people to keep going. As one said you will probaly only get sells from newbish collectors not existing collectors who have all and now were to get this info for free. People are trolling you for double posting and the fact at least for genesis cd and 32x all the info you can provide can be readily gotten on this site if people tried hard enough and weren't lazy.

[Lord Thag]

I agree nothing wrong with selling something to fund your hobby. The fact is if people are already trolling this enough just don't respond and give up. The more you try the more you gong to provoke people to keep going. As one said you will probaly only get sells from newbish collectors not existing collectors who have all and now were to get this info for free. People are trolling you for double posting and the fact at least for genesis cd and 32x all the info you can provide can be readily gotten on this site if people tried hard enough and weren't lazy.

Thanks for at least one decent response. For the record though, I'm not the one selling the DVDs. swlovinist is. We're both long standing members of Atariage and Digipress. Check the forums if you don't believe me.

I posted here because swlovinist is a good friend of mine, and because the responses to his posts ticked me off. I scored a lot of Genesis stuff at the last expo, and have really gotten back into playing the Genesis again, which is why I came over here initially, hoping to find a good Sega-specific forum.

And you're right, the DVDs ARE aimed at new collectors. He's been asked countless times at the expos about his stuff, how/what to collect etc, and it was suggested that he make a DVD/Video/Youtube thing, which he did. An experienced collector probably doesn't need the DVDs. That's not the target audience.

And I'm well aware of the wisdom of 'not feeding the trolls', but I posted this to give the community here a chance to show a better side ... and I'm not seeing it. A shame. Looks as if you need a lot stronger moderation.

All in all, this is not terribly welcoming for two new members (and generally very active posters) who might have otherwise enjoyed hanging out here.

Which I now doubt I will be doing.

@mick_aka - Thanks, I'm sure he'll appreciate the apology.

[geralds]

Thanks for at least one decent response. For the record though, I'm not the one selling the DVDs. swlovinist is. We're both long standing members of Atariage and Digipress. Check the forums if you don't believe me.

I posted here because swlovinist is a good friend of mine, and because the responses to his posts ticked me off. I scored a lot of Genesis stuff at the last expo, and have really gotten back into playing the Genesis again, which is why I came over here initially, hoping to find a good Sega-specific forum.

And you're right, the DVDs ARE aimed at new collectors. He's been asked countless times at the expos about his stuff, how/what to collect etc, and it was suggested that he make a DVD/Video/Youtube thing, which he did. An experienced collector probably doesn't need the DVDs. That's not the target audience.

And I'm well aware of the wisdom of 'not feeding the trolls', but I posted this to give the community here a chance to show a better side ... and I'm not seeing it. A shame. Looks as if you need a lot stronger moderation.

All in all, this is not terribly welcoming for two new members (and generally very active posters) who might have otherwise enjoyed hanging out here.

Which I now doubt I will be doing.

@mick_aka - Thanks, I'm sure he'll appreciate the apology.

No offence a this is a nice site but you all should just give up and stick to playes were neb collectors go. As you can see you are getting trolled on here for selling these becosue there not alot of newbs here. as i said befor keep trying you just feeding the trolls to give them more reson to continue becouse you will repond in defence of the vidoe. In my opinion i dont think vidoe game specific forums are the right place to sell these. Mabe ebay or something becosue you try at other site alot will troll you just like hear. Its not hard to find website like these but news no so little they cant even find them and stick aroudn the extreamly popular sites liek amazon and ebay. And its not the site for say even you agree its for newbie collectors and alot of these video game specific form dont have as many. You go to a nintendo specific website you could proplay get trolled for this to or just plain ignored for the lack of newbie collectors. Agan the harder you try on these forums the more your gona get trolled.

[JRedmond3]

How to collect: Get an Ebay account, start going to flea markets/garage sales/pawn shops/used items stores.

I'm being sort of hypocritical here, but it's not like the topic hasn't been completely derailed already. The reason I think people are being so apprehensive about it is because it sort of comes across like you're wanting people to buy your DVD so you can show off your massive collection.

And the other thing is that at $18, the DVD is overpriced. I mean I guess you could contend that the collection itself is part of the budget but that seems moot.

[jonebone]

No offence a this is a nice site but you all should just give up and stick to playes were neb collectors go. As you can see you are getting trolled on here for selling these becosue there not alot of newbs here. as i said befor keep trying you just feeding the trolls to give them more reson to continue becouse you will repond in defence of the vidoe. In my opinion i dont think vidoe game specific forums are the right place to sell these. Mabe ebay or something becosue you try at other site alot will troll you just like hear. Its not hard to find website like these but news no so little they cant even find them and stick aroudn the extreamly popular sites liek amazon and ebay. And its not the site for say even you agree its for newbie collectors and alot of these video game specific form dont have as many. You go to a nintendo specific website you could proplay get trolled for this to or just plain ignored for the lack of newbie collectors. Agan the harder you try on these forums the more your gona get trolled.

You're right, please don't spend $20 on a DVD. Instead please go spend it on a Dictionary or go enroll in 6th grade English.

[konio38]

You're right, please don't spend $20 on a DVD. Instead please go spend it on a Dictionary or go enroll in 6th grade English.

now thats a proper 20$ investiment.

[swlovinist]

Thank you to those who have contacted me to say thank you for making this product. I have nearly sold out of my second run of these DVDs. While I feel that they have alot to offer even to expert collectors, I respect the opinions if people feel otherwise.

[swlovinist]

bump this thread

[beigemore]

There are a lot of forums out there that just "don't take kindly" to people creating an account just to sell their stuff.. you know.. kind of like a spam bot does.

[swlovinist]

Considering that what I have to offer is Sega related, I thought that I would offer it to these forums. I reside mostly on other forums because I dont just collect Sega. I am a huge SEGA fan and collector.

[SpaceFlea]

Honestly, I find it odd some of the reasoning as to why people are putting down the video. When I watched the preview I thought to myself, "Hey, go back to the collection. I don't want you to pull out and focus on a few games, I want you to slowly pan across the whole collection for a couple hours and mention things as you pass by." I wouldn't actually purchase it for that, but I personally love looking at other people's collections to compare with my own. It's always a treat to scout the competition.

I believe, as others have mentioned, the reason most people on here think this video is silly is that a great portion of us are seasoned collectors. And some people probably find it patronizing to be taught something they already know (as though they lacked the knowledge); so it probably rubbed those people the wrong way. But you've obviously found your niche at the trade shows; I say you needn't mind the naysayers here when you know you have a desired product elsewhere.

This was actually the first time I'd ever seen anyone get the grind like you and, quite frankly, I too was annoyed. I hope you decide to stick around and share your insights and delights with the rest of us as a regularly contributing member.

[swlovinist]

I appreciate the positive comment. I think that my video has alot to offer both seasoned collectors and new collectors. I also think that the day you stop learning is the day you stop dying. I am not going to have a couple of trolls stop me for hanging around...

[Leathco]

I don't get all the hate. I'd pick this up if it were cheaper (36 is too steep for me when places like retrowaretv.com sell 3 disc sets for 15 bucks), but it looks like an interesting watch. If it were 20 for all of em I'd pick em up.