Am I the only one, who thinks re'imagined has become a dirty word?

[JRedmond3]

Forget Goldeneye, they just need to make a sequel to 007 Nightfire and remake the Skyrail level.

[MrMatthews]

No it doesn't benefit the industry, all it does is open the door, to being able to get away with releasing, worse, and worse games(keep going like this, there's bound to be a gaming crash again, and at very least companies will end up losing inase amounts of dough).

I see you don't fully understand why the industry "crashed" the first time around.

[Cornholio857]

It doesn't bother me. I'm actually pretty excited about the SplatterHouse remake. AND the fact that they are putting the 3 originals in the game as unlockables!

Besides, I'll download the demo first and if i don't like it, I won't buy it.

Correction, the people that own the originals will ignore them, while the newer crowd will buy such games, and wonder why the hell do people think Sonic games are good.

Not true. Even newer gamers know about Classic Sonic. As much as Sega repackages/re-releases those games I would say it's pretty safe to say most people know about Classic Sonic.

Even if I didn't know that a certain game franchise was good years back and I picked up an awful modern version it would only raise my curiousity. "If (Game X) was supposed to be so good, why the hell does this SUCK? Guess I need to go back to the ROOTS of the series." And besides, the originals will always be there. That's just my opinion though.

[Phosis]

I see you don't fully understand why the industry "crashed" the first time around.

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Nope, he's right.

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST PEOPLE.

New video game crash, Zoltor called it!

[Cornholio857]

According to WikiPedia:

There were several reasons for the crash, but the main cause was supersaturation of the market with hundreds of mostly low-quality games.

• Plethora of games and consoles
• Competition from personal computers
• Loss of publishing control
• High-profile disasters

Full article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_A..._crash_of_1983

[Zoltor]

According to WikiPedia:





Full article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_A..._crash_of_1983

Exactly, what do you think most of the new school FPS(which are basically all clones of one another), and these bad new school RPGs are, not to mention the plathora of sports games coming out every year.

[TheFace]

I'm actually going to go against the grain and agree with Zoltor to an extent here.

The term "re-imagine" has become a term that means "change everything and keep the title." Let's talk in terms of movies - I LOVE the new Bond movies with Daniel Craig, but let's be honest - it's more like The Bourne Identity than it is James Bond. Sure, they took Casino Royale from source material, but you have decades of "Bond" and rather than add new parts to an existing character, they took it and made it Bourne.

So anyway, It has certainly led to some good games - the Metroid Prime saga is a good one to mention here - but it's led to some less-than-spectacular flops, too.

Though... I also think that you have to separate sequels from re-imaginings... perhaps the Metroid saga isn't one to bring up here, on second thought. The gameplay is remarkably true to the originals despite the first-person perspective. They weren't really rehashing the old game, just updating the series. Metroid Zero Mission was much more of a "re-imagining" of the Metroid games.

You play a game, it has a certain "feel" to it, a thing that catches you and makes you keep playing. When you redo it, they often ignore that. Additionally, re-imaginings are often ways to get around what is canon in the original game or series. Sequels, on the other hand, try to maintain that "feel" while still adding to the story.

However, the thought that we're headed for another "crash" is ridiculous.

1) There are only 3 major consoles drawing consumers.
2) PCs are well established on their own and are only attracting certain kinds of gamers and only really has certain types of games.
3) Publishers are well under control with their trademarks and series.
4) "High-Profile" disasters won't matter. You have 3 very separate companies that are high profile and if any one of them falls, the others will rise into that niche. Actually, maybe if Sony or Microsoft bomb out we can get Sega back into the console market.
5) The sports games you mention have a low resale value but sell ridiculously every year.
6) Arcades are no longer the be-all-end-all for games and the novelty of "play this same thing at home" no longer exists. Games that caused the "crash" like Pac-Man did so because they resembled nothing like reality. Additionally, technology is at the point where the same technology is available and affordable for home consoles as you'd find in any arcade. That was not the case earlier.

[bohokii]

ive always understood that term to mean

some asshole doesn't have real imagination but knows how to nitpick others work

[mrbigreddog]

The new Goldeneye is great! The old was great! Yeah I hate the new Bond, but if it had Pierce Brosnan on this game, younger players/gamers wouldn't buy it. So they are trying to get the best of both worlds to appeal to everyone. It plays great, I think FPS on the Wii are so kickass, we need more. If you don't like the Wii controls, use the gamecube controller! But all these updated retro-games are awesome! I love the New Super Mario Brothers Wii, that was very impressive, I can't wait for the new Donkey Kong Country! Mortal Kombat 1,2,3 HD?!! AWESOME! Mortal Kombat 9 (back to the 2D play) AMAZING! Sonic 4?? Well okay, it's not great, but not horrible either!

Now I do hate some non-game re'imaginings.... For example

[TheFace]

Sure, some of those games ARE great, and I wouldn't lump GoldenEye in with the bad ones.

But it IS accounting for a lot of laziness and going for a quick sell.

[Zoltor]

The new Goldeneye is great! The old was great! Yeah I hate the new Bond, but if it had Pierce Brosnan on this game, younger players/gamers wouldn't buy it. So they are trying to get the best of both worlds to appeal to everyone. It plays great, I think FPS on the Wii are so kickass, we need more. If you don't like the Wii controls, use the gamecube controller!

No I do hate some re'imaginings.... For example

Well as I said, atleast the new Goldeneye is a good game(which is exceptionally rare in re'imagined games, as most are really bad), but that doesn't matter in this discussion, since this Isn't about rather or not X game is good or bad, this is about companies abusing the hell out of the term "re-imagined". The term is meant to allow room for change, however it wasn't meat to be used to mean, change everything about the game, and cash out on the name/steal the name.

Why wouldn't anyone not like the wii controls for FPS(they're godly), I think you are missing the entire concept of what this discussion is about.

[Zoltor]

Sure, some of those games ARE great, and I wouldn't lump GoldenEye in with the bad ones.

But it IS accounting for a lot of laziness and going for a quick sell.

So true.

[OldSchool]

Mixing things up, doesn't mean changing just about, if not every single aspect of the game.

The new Lufia game is the biggest POS I can even imagine, aside from the worse POS ever made ofcourse, DWM: Joker(how can you support such actions).

You can mix things up, without changing every aspect of the game, I'm sorry you are incapable of understanding that.

never heard of Lufia




Can you name a game that actually counts?

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Exactly, what do you think most of the new school FPS(which are basically all clones of one another), and these bad new school RPGs are, not to mention the plathora of sports games coming out every year.

You're going to need to elaborate more on your point.


Name me one "bad" FPS of the last Generation that you don't think deserves the praise it gets... same goes for an RPG (not counting turn based RPGs, those don't count).