Am I crazy for liking SNES Doom more than 32X one?

[Orchid87]

SNES Doom has almost all levels, better music and the best of all - much more textures. There's a thing about most of the Doom 1 ports - Jaguar, 32X, 3do, Doom 1 part of PS1 and Saturn ports, GBA - all of them lack many textures making the game all gray and brown. SNES port is much more colorful and looks more like the PC original. Yet it is considered worse than 32X version. Am I the only one who thinks tho other way around?

Untextured floor and ceiling on SNES don't bother me as much as cut levels, horrible music, and lost textures on 32X.

[Chilly Willy]

Yes, you are crazy.

More textures... if you ignore the floors and ceilings. And I don't think a COUPLE extra wall textures make up for ALL the floors and ceilings missing. It's not "much more" by any means.

As for levels, you can get the modded version with the Jaguar levels giving the 32X more levels than the SNES version.

[Orchid87]

Yes, you are crazy.

More textures... if you ignore the floors and ceilings. And I don't think a COUPLE extra wall textures make up for ALL the floors and ceilings missing. It's not "much more" by any means.

As for levels, you can get the modded version with the Jaguar levels giving the 32X more levels than the SNES version.

Actually it is "much more". It makes the SNES version look like PC original, compared to the dull gray walls in 32X port.




And "modded" doesn't count

[Foxysen]

Though, I miss blue color in 32X version, it runs better than Snes Doom and image is more clean. As also, in Snes version it feels like monsters are just some... painting on heavy paper? In 32X when you shot an imp in front from shotgun, he would fly away. In Snes - he will just fall down. At ridiculous speed. Same goes to group of barrel. Unlike Snes version, in 32X version when a group of barrels one barrel explodes it will also launch all other barrels in different directions. Sometimes you can get enemies with it.

Music in 32X is NOT horrible. I like it because it sounds quite original. And, for sure, it fits to a bit dull graphic of 32X version. Though, some people just go into "LOL, fartings!" bias.

Jaguar-family versions of levels are more fun than PC originals. At least for me. Also, 32X small amount of levels gives it my favourite "Pick-And-Play" style of play.

Snes got more levels, sure. It got 24 Levels of awful experience. Gosh, Shotgun Guy's attack already were unavoidable, and now somebody gave them Sniper Rifle! It feels like this. Also, your shotgun can't kill few enemies at one shot (Killing group of zombies is now a lot harder). All weapons have an AutoAim, what leads to situation when I need to quickly kill a Shotgun Guy, but instead my weapon shoot in different targets around him.

[gamegenie]

SNES Doom has almost all levels, better music and the best of all - much more textures. There's a thing about most of the Doom 1 ports - Jaguar, 32X, 3do, Doom 1 part of PS1 and Saturn ports, GBA - all of them lack many textures making the game all gray and brown. SNES port is much more colorful and looks more like the PC original. Yet it is considered worse than 32X version. Am I the only one who thinks tho other way around?

Untextured floor and ceiling on SNES don't bother me as much as cut levels, horrible music, and lost textures on 32X.

Here's the thing, Doom on SNES was next to last to come out in late 1995.

While the Jaguar and 32X were the first console ports of the game, followed by the Saturn and PlayStation version in mid '95.

there was just a lot time and effort available for the SNES port, that we know if that time was given to the 32X version it could have turned out much better.

But for their efforts in '94, the 32X and Jaguar were then the best versions of Doom.


Just like today, I can point out how the SNES version doesn't hold a candle to the Xbox or Xbox 360 Doom.

[Orchid87]

Jaguar-family versions of levels are more fun than PC originals.

IMO jaguar ruined all the Doom 1 ports. Levels are cut down and many textures are missing giving them the dull gray look. PS1 and GBA ports could be much much better if they were ported from the PC version straight instead of the jaguar abomination. The second half of the PS1 port, that are Doom 2 levels, and Doom 2 for GBA confirm this. 32X port is easily the worst "Jaguar-family" case.

Just like today, I can point out how the SNES version doesn't hold a candle to the Xbox or Xbox 360 Doom.

But those ports were all mid-90's, and SNES is the weakest system to get a Doom port, so it is not a fair comparison

[Foxysen]

IMO jaguar ruined all the Doom 1 ports. Levels are cut down and many textures are missing giving them the dull gray look. PS1 and GBA ports could be much much better if they were ported from the PC version straight instead of the jaguar abomination. The second half of the PS1 port, that are Doom 2 levels, and Doom 2 for GBA confirm this.

Indeed, those platforms should have got a PC ports of levels. (And I wouldn't be dissapointed that those level changes weren't 32X exclusives). But for me, 32X is so short that it's awesome.

[Orchid87]

But for me, 32X is so short that it's awesome.

Something I just realized - I neither had 32X back then nor played Doom 1 32X port until the rise of emulation in '00's. So I don't have any precious memories with this port. On the other hand I enjoyed Zero Tolerance back then and I still find it great nowadays, with all it's shortcomings. I also played Doom 1 on my dad's PC a little in '94, and I remember well the colorful look of it. So when I discovered SNES port later I loved how it was as colorful as PC version. Those who saw 32X/Jaguar Doom first might not care about PC version colors

[Foxysen]

Nah, it's not nostalgia. At all.
First time I played Doom in somewhere near 1999. That was Doom 2 on PC. (Without using mouse, without using strafe, heh heh). After a while I discovered and first part too. I didn't even seen about any console port. until few years ago I tried a SNES version through emulator. I remembered, that it wasn't very enjoyable, so after few deaths on Map 05 (You damn overpowered Shotgun Guys!) I stopped playing it. Only, like, 2 years ago I saw 32X version on screenshot and I though: "Wow, it looks different! I need to try this.". It played as enjoyable as PC version, and it also had more fun levels than in PC. (Yet, again, for me). That means, that though I may be a bit biased compared to other Jaguar-Family ports, with 32X vs SNES I am not.
So 32X>SNES and Zero Tolerance should be destroyed for overuse of enemies with unavoidable attacks.

...Those blue bottles still give me such a feeling.

[gamegenie]

But those ports were all mid-90's, and SNES is the weakest system to get a Doom port, so it is not a fair comparison

time on development plays a role. Jaguar getting the very 1st console port of Doom didn't even get the music. The 32X was rushed out with only half the levels. The SNES had more than a year development time compared to the earlier releases. Yes SNES is weaker hardware, but the SNES doesn't run Doom by itself, the game has FX chips doing half the job. So it IS a fair comparison.

[Orchid87]

time on development plays a role. Jaguar getting the very 1st console port of Doom didn't even get the music. The 32X was rushed out with only half the levels. The SNES had more than a year development time compared to the earlier releases. Yes SNES is weaker hardware, but the SNES doesn't run Doom by itself, the game has FX chips doing half the job. So it IS a fair comparison.

AFAIK FX chips are still weaker than either Jaguar or 32X hardware.

[gamegenie]

AFAIK FX chips are still weaker than either Jaguar or 32X hardware.

not weak enough to not be used in Doom. Doom on SNES doesn't look better than Jaguar or 32X, it just sounds better because of FM sound is used instead of MIDI.

[cleeg]

I've never played the original, and have only ever seen SNES doom once. I own the 32X version, but would much rather play Quake on the Saturn because although 32X Doom is fairly satisfying, I could imagine myself preferring the SNES version too, because it is as good as it could possibly be for the hardware. Whereas the 32X port could have been much much better in many regards. Same as Saturn Quake: better for other systems but deserving credit for effort.

[GKC]

Not sure why you liking one port over another would make you crazy. It's your preference. Now if you told us you like to play the SNES version in the nude with nothing on but the lamps that have lamp shades made out off human skin, then yes you would probably be crazy.... That's not the case is it?

[zetastrike]

The SNES version is practically unplayable these days. There's considerable input lag, it has the framerate of a picture book, and theres no way of saving or a level select code. I could put up with the bad graphics if it weren't for those fatal flaws.