Best AV possible on various systems?

[lumclaw]

Oh, right. Your list being EU models has minor differences. I don't recall NTSC Wii doing RGB.

[retrospiel]

From what I remember my brother had a US NTSC Wii for a short while and it did support RGB.

EDIT: Okay, must have been a UK machine. I read the NTSC Wiis do not support RGB and instead output S-Video.

[GohanX]

The 3do's best output is S-video unfortunately. I have heard of RGB mods but I have no idea how to do it.

[kool kitty89]

Huh? I'd like to hear more about that. I thought SNES 2 was not only never released in Europe, but had no PAL model issued at all?

Right, forgot about that, so ignore the comment on the SNES2.

From what I remember my brother had a US NTSC Wii for a short while and it did support RGB.

EDIT: Okay, must have been a UK machine. I read the NTSC Wiis do not support RGB and instead output S-Video.

The Wii has to output RGB on NTSC models (hence the VGA cable ). I think RGB lines may be multiplexed to the analog component video lines but I'm not positive.

Ah, here:
http://www.gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?...ulti_av_pinout

http://www.hardwarebook.info/Wii_A/V#Pinout

So it not onl multiplexes RGB and YPbPr, but also multiplexes S-video onto the R/G or Y/Pb lines (granted S-video luma should be identical to Y/luma from component).
There's no dedicated composite video line either, so the composite cable probably merges Y/C (for S-video) externally with a simple coupling capacitor. (technically you usually don't even need that for >99% of TV/monitors, but you're *supposed* to do it)

What's also interesting is that the one of the "mode" lines allows selecting for 525, 750, or 1125 lines of vertical resolution, so the Wii technically supports HDTV modes. (there's a separate mode line that selects interlaced vs progressive modes -and 59.94/60 Hz, so presumably all of those resolutions also support interlaced and progressive versions -thus normal NTSC video would be 525/59.94i -the resolution includes overscan, so that's 480i, or 448i on most SD sets while 750 would be 720p/i, and 1125 would be 1080p/i)
I wonder if that mode signal is ever used. (if it is, I assume it's just for native upscaling to an external source -rather than relying on the TV/monitor to scale)

[lumclaw]

Yeah I believe the NTSC Wii does internally support PAL. Except if so there is no system menu setting to enable it. Good question to find out...

[mick_aka]

Just to note, It's cheaper to buy a 2nd hand Wii and a component cable for gamecube gaming than it is to buy the GameCube component cable.

Also not many gamecube games have progressive scan support AND the digital port for the gamecube component cable was removed from the later consoles.

[kool kitty89]

Yeah I believe the NTSC Wii does internally support PAL. Except if so there is no system menu setting to enable it. Good question to find out...

Whether it supports 50 Hz and PAL colorburst (S-video/Composite) are totally separate issues from RGB. (the VGA cable works for NTSC, thus the Wii has RGB in NTSC -the video output mode is enabled via select/mode lines on the cable itself)