Just got an 360 S!!

[hashiriya1]

Fuck MP in general. Last year I canceled my Live Gold account, never looked back. Multiplayer on the PS3 isn't much better either, by the way.

PSN is MUCH better since it's free. I battle my friends online all the time, it would be a shame to pay for that feature on top of paying for the game itself.

Anyhoo, my gamertag is hashirya1, but I don't pay for XBL, so no online play. I only bought a 360 (J) so I can play all of Cave's releases.

[Kogen]

PSN is better? Less games, less features, less reliability, less performance, cannot even voice chat properly... I do not like XBL being a pay-for feature either, but it is easily better in literally every single way. Console online gaming is just bad in general compared to PC.

[Sega Uranus]

Raping random people is MUCH better since it's free. I battle my friends in the streets all the time, it would be a shame to pay for that feature on top of paying the whore her/himself.

Xbox Live is better, but the amount worth paying for can change depending on the person. If you only casually play online then yeah, probably not worth it, but overall the service is better and worth the money. Even for someone who owns both platforms it can still come to good use as more people tend to play their Xbox 360 online than their PlayStation 3. Most games run better on it, too.

But on that, I usually prefer uploading my scores to compare with friends instead of playing against people I never met.

[hashiriya1]

PSN is better? Less games, less features, less reliability, less performance, cannot even voice chat properly... I do not like XBL being a pay-for feature either, but it is easily better in literally every single way. Console online gaming is just bad in general compared to PC.

Again, I said PSN is better because it's free. I was only focusing on that aspect. Less games and features depends on who you talk to. The extra games and features don't really appeal to me, everything I want is already on PSN. But then again, a pay service SHOULD have "better" games and features over a free service.

I've never had a problem with voice chat. All of my friends hear me clearly as I hear them, and most of my friends who I battle are across the Pacific ocean.

I am not a PC gamer, so that is a moot point with me.

[Kollision]

pardon my ignorance, but what's an Xbox 360S?

The 360 Slim

gee, thanks!

[Devil N]

PSN is MUCH better since it's free. I battle my friends online all the time, it would be a shame to pay for that feature on top of paying for the game itself.

PSN being free is pretty much a moot point to me. It's not like Xbox Live Gold is that expensive, and I can easily afford the fee if I wanted to. With PSN, you get what you pay for, i.e. practically nothing. It's like Sony simply said to their developers and customers, "here's an internet connection, do whatever you like with it." Yeah sure, you can play online with it, and you can download some stuff, but there's no proper overarching service like you get with Xbox Live.

But in the end, over the years I have come to realize that online multiplayer is just a very shallow experience. The fun you get is very dependent on the quality of your fellow players, and in practice 4 out of 5 players are complete idiots. For instance, playing a complex racing game such as Gran Turismo or Forza online should be a great exercise in clean, precise and careful driving, but in practice it usually boils down to a fancy game of bumper cars. It gets different of course once you start playing in clans and pro leagues and such, but I don't have the time nor the will to invest that kind of effort anymore.

What's worse, in most cases the online community of a game will be dead several months after the initial release. So in the event that I do get attached to a game's online multiplayer, there's a good chance I won't be able to enjoy it anymore sometime soon. This has stung me a lot throughout the years. There's plenty of online games that I have fond memories of and that I'd like to play again, but I simply can't because there's noone else playing them.

Nah, online MP has run its course for me. I'll stick with single player and local multiplayer from now on.

[gamegenie]

my gamertag is, diamondmm

[gamevet]

PSN being free is pretty much a moot point to me. It's not like Xbox Live Gold is that expensive, and I can easily afford the fee if I wanted to. With PSN, you get what you pay for, i.e. practically nothing. It's like Sony simply said to their developers and customers, "here's an internet connection, do whatever you like with it." Yeah sure, you can play online with it, and you can download some stuff, but there's no proper overarching service like you get with Xbox Live.

What are those overarching services you speak of, Xbox insider?

PSN is more than just an internet connection. You get exclusive content like The Tester, Pulse and DLC. I actually prefer the trophy system, since you can see when your friends completed an accomplishment.

But in the end, over the years I have come to realize that online multiplayer is just a very shallow experience. The fun you get is very dependent on the quality of your fellow players, and in practice 4 out of 5 players are complete idiots. For instance, playing a complex racing game such as Gran Turismo or Forza online should be a great exercise in clean, precise and careful driving, but in practice it usually boils down to a fancy game of bumper cars. It gets different of course once you start playing in clans and pro leagues and such, but I don't have the time nor the will to invest that kind of effort anymore.

What's worse, in most cases the online community of a game will be dead several months after the initial release. So in the event that I do get attached to a game's online multiplayer, there's a good chance I won't be able to enjoy it anymore sometime soon. This has stung me a lot throughout the years. There's plenty of online games that I have fond memories of and that I'd like to play again, but I simply can't because there's noone else playing them.

Nah, online MP has run its course for me. I'll stick with single player and local multiplayer from now on.

Yeah, unfortuneatly you'll get the massive influx of people that really don't care about taking online seriously and would rather be a pain. But, eventually they'll move on. I've found that most racing games will keep a dedicated audience that has a little more respect. It's cool playing against people from Europe, since they seem to be a little more low-key about surrounding themselves with attention.

I borrowed Dirt 2 from a friend back in December and had no problems finding matches on the PS3. The races were enjoyable and the groups I'd raced with were pretty cool.

[kokujin]

I borrowed Dirt 2 from a friend back in December and had no problems finding matches on the PS3. The races were enjoyable and the groups I'd raced with were pretty cool.

Very true, racing game communities are very good on consoles, and they're good too.

[The Jackal]

The 360 S is a great machine, but man are Microsoft money-grabbing arseholes. The prices on some XBLA games are really expensive, and don't get me started on the bullshit they've pulled with the harddrive!
As for Xbox LIVE Gold, yeah, I'm def getting it - it's not that expensive and I'm on a low-income.

I also downloaded the Sonic 4 demo, and all those reviews of people complaining about the physics are bang-on the money.

Any suggestions of some games to get?

[kokujin]

The 360 S is a great machine, but man are Microsoft money-grabbing arseholes. The prices on some XBLA games are really expensive, and don't get me started on the bullshit they've pulled with the harddrive!
As for Xbox LIVE Gold, yeah, I'm def getting it - it's not that expensive and I'm on a low-income.

I also downloaded the Sonic 4 demo, and all those reviews of people complaining about the physics are bang-on the money.

Any suggestions of some games to get?

In general or on Xbox live?

[The Jackal]

In general or on Xbox live?

Either really. All I know is Resident Evil 5, Metal Gear Solid Rising, Dragon Ball Raging Blast 2, Dead Space 2 and Grand Theft Auto IV are at the top of the 'wanted' list at the moment.

[kokujin]

If you have a decent PC, I'd suggest getting some of these titles for the PC, I have made the games with superior PC versions bold.

Saints Row 2 (Better than GTAIV)(Needs a good CPU)
Virtua Fighter 5 (if you like fighting games)
Ninja Gaiden 2
Resonance of Fate
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Tales of Vesperia
Star Ocean
Eternal Sonata
Mass Effect 1 and 2
Dragon Age Origins
Culdcept SAGA
Omega Five
Batman Arkham Asylum
Fallout New Vegas
Bayonetta
Just Cause 2
OutRun Online Arcade

[The Jackal]

Cheers mate, much appreciated.

Back in Xmas 2006 when I had my 360 Core, I used to own the original Saint's Row. I always thought it was gonna be a shameless rip-off of San Andreas, and while I was right in terms of story and setting, I was completly blown away by the gameplay. If you say Part 2 is better than GTAIV then I believe you.

What about Fable 2 and 3? I love the Lost Chapters on the original Xbox, do you recommend them?

[kokujin]

What about Fable 2 and 3? I love the Lost Chapters on the original Xbox, do you recommend them?

Fable 2 is ok, but 3 is garbage.Lost Chapters is the best one, they seem to water the game down with each iteration.