Majora's Mask 3D: Why Bother?

[Black_Tiger]

When you're talking about these early 3D graphics games, any improvement to the visuals translates to an improvement in the gameplay. Imagine if Genesis games ran at 20 - 30fps and a third of the screen was cropped out and you could only play them with the left handed SMS stick. Rereleasing them at full screen at 60fps and 6-button and support would completely transform a game without adding any new content.

[Bastardcat]

MM was my least favorite Zelda game. Why the fuck would I want to play it in nauseating 3D?

[old man]

When you're talking about these early 3D graphics games, any improvement to the visuals translates to an improvement in the gameplay. Imagine if Genesis games ran at 20 - 30fps and a third of the screen was cropped out and you could only play them with the left handed SMS stick. Rereleasing them at full screen at 60fps and 6-button and support would completely transform a game without adding any new content.

Plus the game company doesn't have to spend a lot of time and money developing a new game. They can just port things over to the 3DS.

[Sly Wolf]

You guys are forgetting about one thing: It's now playable on the go.

Yes this is what I'm thinking right now, only reason why that game is worth it. I can't believe most of you failed to see that it's now a portable game because there is no way to play n64 systems anywhere outside, on bus, on boat, in park and more in one day. Again, mostly due to money and "zelda" name on it. They're milking cash cow named Zelda and they seem doing it very carefully, unlike what sega has done with poor Sonic who had been almost milked to death.

[Da_Shocker]

$$$$$$$

This game is how old what 11 years old. Nintendo can take a small investment of porting it to the 3dS and probably make 1000% return on that investment.

[Black_Tiger]

Plus the game company doesn't have to spend a lot of time and money developing a new game. They can just port things over to the 3DS.

The OP mentioned this, but is wondering why customers would want it. Not even all retro gamers bother collecting every console ever or buy one for a single game. Most people only have one current console and maybe a single portable. It makes much more sense for the average person to conveniently pick up a copy of a game off the shelf of a store they frequent and pop it into the 3DS in their pocket than it is to search second hand shops, craigslist and eBay for a complete console as well as the game, all to setup in the middle of their living room, just to have an inferior and more expensive experience.

Plus, this is a mass appeal game, not some obscure Mega Drivegame that only people like us have heard of or care about. When a game attracts regular people, they aren't the type to start hunting down vintage hardware and software. We're living in the day and age of iProducts and digital sales.

[zetastrike]

Nintendo is really overdoing this remake business. I can't believe they're making Starfox 64 again. It makes me mad that they will not make a new (good) Starfox game. Every sequel they've made after SF64 has failed horribly from a critical standpoint. All this remaking just makes them look lazy and greedy.

[InternalPrimate]

Not to pick on you but I've never understood why people say things like this. (I heard the exact same line about Super Mario All-Stars Wii, among others.) You want this remake because it will introduce new gamers to this 12 year old game? Why -- are you a new gamer? Or are you planning to personally introduce people to this game, with the remake? Or do you have such a high opinion of this game, that you believe that doing anything that results in more people playing it has some sort of altruistic merit?

I'm saying that a remake on a modern system allows gamers that don't own the classic system to experience a great game. It's about making things available for as many people possible.

Should the Beatles be kept on vinyl? How about cassette? CD? MP3?

By saying "if people want to play Majora's Mask, go play it on the N64," you're basically telling a gamer to go drudge up an outdated format which they may or may not have. That's ridiculous. It may seem silly coming from someone like me who proudly has his SNES and Genesis connected alongside his Wii, 360, and PS3, but not everyone is a collector or classic gaming fan.

Again, if you want to listen to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, go buy a record player. How is that statement not ridiculous?

[Black_Tiger]

I'm saying that a remake on a modern system allows gamers that don't own the classic system to experience a great game. It's about making things available for as many people possible.

Should the Beatles be kept on vinyl? How about cassette? CD? MP3?

By saying "if people want to play Majora's Mask, go play it on the N64," you're basically telling a gamer to go drudge up an outdated format which they may or may not have. That's ridiculous. It may seem silly coming from someone like me who proudly has his SNES and Genesis connected alongside his Wii, 360, and PS3, but not everyone is a collector or classic gaming fan.

Millions of people haven't even ever heard of this game or the N64. Why should someone have to hunt down an old game console that is older than they are? Rereleases are completely optional, it's not like Nintendo releases a game and it's automatically taken off of your pay check.

You can vote against these kinds of releases by not buying them. Conpanies don't put out games like this because they don't sell. The fact that they sell well enough proves that enough people want it. It's the same reason crappy original games continue to he made. People overall prefer garbage today and like games to be as uninteractive as possible. Pier Solar will never sell as well MM 3DS. But you still get to chose to buy either or both.

When people complain that a company can't make a good new entry of a series like Star Fox and complain about rereleases, they ignoring their own words. They CAN'T make the game you really want, whether due to lack of talent or commercial potential.

[Curryman123]

I am still waiting for a proper 2D Metroid game for Ds...FUCK YOURSELF Nintendo! 3D Metroid is SHIT, and people who like it are posers.

[GohanX]

You guys are forgetting about one thing: It's now playable on the go.

This. I've tried to play OoT several times on both N64 and Gamecube, and I never get very far since I can only play home games in 15 minute spurts most of the time. On the 3DS, I can play for a few minutes, close the screen, resume later without having to hike across Hyrule Field for the 1000th time.

In all fairness though, I mainly bought the game bacause it was on sale, and Club Nintendo was giving away a free soundtrack, that I hope to shamelessly pawn on ebay when they are hard to find.

[eddiespruce]

I am still waiting for a proper 2D Metroid game for Ds...FUCK YOURSELF Nintendo! 3D Metroid is SHIT, and people who like it are posers.

I too, am also waiting for a proper 2D Metroid game for the DS. Super Metroid was probably my favorite, what's yours?

[Curryman123]

I too, am also waiting for a proper 2D Metroid game for the DS. Super Metroid was probably my favorite, what's yours?

Same...with Metroid (Nes) being my 2nd favorite.

[Clessy]

Didnt zelda come out on the regular DS or was that just a port of mario 64? I thought most of the 64 games got ds ports.

[j_factor]

I'm saying that a remake on a modern system allows gamers that don't own the classic system to experience a great game. It's about making things available for as many people possible.

Should the Beatles be kept on vinyl? How about cassette? CD? MP3?

Audio formats are hardly analogous to game systems. Almost every album on vinyl, apart from the super obscure and a few things tied up in legal problems, has long been available on CD, etc. Surely you don't think every remotely mainstream game should be re-released for every commercially successful system that comes along?

By saying "if people want to play Majora's Mask, go play it on the N64," you're basically telling a gamer to go drudge up an outdated format which they may or may not have.

But I'm not saying that. For one thing, Majora's Mask is also available for Gamecube and Wii. Is Wii an outdated format already? More importantly, I was not arguing that remakes should not be made. I was only arguing with your specific line of reasoning.

That's ridiculous. It may seem silly coming from someone like me who proudly has his SNES and Genesis connected alongside his Wii, 360, and PS3, but not everyone is a collector or classic gaming fan.

Sure, but I'm not talking to "everyone", I'm talking to you. What is your personal vested interest in what new(ish) gamers have available? Why do you care so much that gamers that don't own a classic system are able to experience a specific game? Do you consider there to be some sort of intrinsic benefit to society?

When a remake comes out, I decide whether or not I'm interested based on the circumstances (what it was originally on, what it's being released for now, what's being added/changed in the process), assuming it's a game I like in the first place.

I bought Broken Sword for Wii because I don't like the hassle of running old PC games, the Playstation version isn't a perfect port, and I was interested in the additions they made. Someone else may have their Virtual PC setup down pat and consider the additions marginal, and therefore consider the Wii version a waste of time. That's fine for them, although I personally don't share their viewpoint/circumstances. But I bought it for the reasons stated; at no time was I thinking, "Boy, it sure is wonderful that this game is available to more modern gamers! Thanks Ubi Soft, for doing the world a favor."

I decided against buying Chrono Trigger for DS because I'd prefer not to play it on a small screen and the additions they made were not enough to sway me. Someone else may think the additions were amazing, have no problem playing it on a portable, and/or have no interest in the SNES and PSX versions for whatever reason(s). That's fine for them, and I don't begrudge them the remake or feel that it's an awful thing that it got made. But I was still not thinking, "Gee golly gosh, I'm so super grateful that this remake came out so that more people can buy this particular game! Thanks Square Enix, for doing the right thing."

You know why I didn't think that? Because it's a product that is being sold. It is not a gift to gamers. Releasing a remake is not an act of philanthropy. I care whether other people have access to food and health care; I don't care whether other people have convenient access to Game X. And I don't see why I should.

Again, if you want to listen to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, go buy a record player. How is that statement not ridiculous?

I have this album on CD and I don't have an iTunes account, but I'm still really glad they released it on iTunes, for the benefit of others. This doesn't sound odd to you?