Opinions blinded by nostalgia- Time to get real!

[Iron Lizard]

Left to our own devices we could systematically tear apart our favorite games piece by piece with hindsight and tunnel vision. It reminds of "that's not punk" conversations I used to get into when I was fourteen.

[Nobi]

Altered Beast, Golded Axe, Phantasy Star II, and Strider may not seem so impressive now, but if I were to put myself in a 1989 state of mind, and given what else was available for the time, they were very impressive indeed. If I had a few hundred dollars to spend on video games in 1989/90 I would have picked up a Genesis and those games for sure(with Revenge of Shinobi).

Streets of Rage 1 > 2+3 in my opinion.

Phantasy Star IV is the best RPG of the entire 16 bit era. May lack the eye candy, and production value of some of the SNES RPG's, but PSIV has the best gameplay, and story/presentation in my opinion.

Phantasy Star IV/Shining series > All SNES RPG's imo.

[StarMist]

{{re Altered Beast}} To be fair I wonder how did this become famous in the first place (even in the arcade!), the game sucks ass no matter what you do. I never liked it.
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The game is hard and slow, but loud and brutal: that's enough for the arcades. The arcade version also had larger, much more appealing sprites, to the degree that it was an unwise choice to launch the Genesis (look at the bouncing slime creature's shrinkage on the home console: quite embarrassing).

All the Phantasy Star games for Genesis are overhyped (and the Master System one, even more). As much as I'd like to love them (and I do like them, actually) they don't hold up if you compare them to many Snes RPGs. On the other side, I have yet to see a strategy rpg as good as Shining Force II on Snes.

Also, I don't think Kid Chameleon is overhyped at all, many people here dislike this game a lot. I'm among the ones who love it to death, but I really can understand if someone think it is rubbish. It's just not the greatest game... or maybe it is

The Phantasy Star games are partly a matter of aural and visual taste. II has the best video game music ever, even beating out FFVII's general Debussyste and particular Satie thievings. Its palette and thematic concinnity are not even approached by any of the mindless hodgepodges Square produces, nor, for those who've seen the painfully photo-slick backgrounds of the SFam Dragon Quests is the grid anything to complain of. With the exceptions of Mystic Ark, Tales of Phantasia, and Seiken Densetsu 3, all SNES rpgs are unfit to behold.
KC is the best platformer ever, at least once through. It's not the friendliest to revisit having beaten, but replay value counts less than first play value.

The game which most deserves to be on here is Taz-motherfucking-Mania, one of the most awful games of the entire 16-bit generation, and yet the game sold a ton and still gets positive feeling from forums and gamers.

Yea, this game is the sort of thing parents who want their children to go outside more often should give them.

@ Sheath= you beat me to it. GA trounces SoR in everything but ambience, which the only SoR to incorporate running doesn't have at all.
@Topic = My opinions haven't changed towards any Genesis game.
@ OP = this thread is aimless, as it's hard to tell what you're at, whilst the aging badly thread has been recently done. "Selfish", however, is just a term selfish people apply to others they disapprove of.

[Olls]

mmm, I like this thread.
However OP, Altered Beast never was a good game. It was decidedly average even back then.

A big to the whiners that can't take any criticism towards their beloved Genesis games. Of course they were exactly the people I had expected to come in here and complain.

[DarkDragon]

The game which most deserves to be on here is Taz-motherfucking-Mania, one of the most awful games of the entire 16-bit generation, and yet the game sold a ton and still gets positive feeling from forums and gamers.

Saying its one of the most awful games of the entire 16-bit generation is being way over dramatic. So you think people only like it because of nostalgia well maybe thats true but I still dont see how its as bad as you say it is. I see it as a fun game with a few fustrating/difficult parts.

[Gogogadget]

I must admit, I tried to play Golden Axe some time back and it really is pretty awful.

I really like Kid Chameleon though and only played it for the first time a couple of years ago.

[sheath]

I played the hell out of the first Taz-Mania on Genesis as well. I never read any hype about it other than it being "good". I enjoyed it enough to play through it and found the platforming no more complicated than popular platformers.

The sequel, Escape from Mars or whatever, I hated.

[TmEE]

Taz-Mania was only good on SMS, the MD game while graphically nice, grinds my ears with its horrible music and the gameplay side did not compare to SMS game.

[Mr Smith]

Kid Chameleon is awesome: fact!

[Sega Genesis]

"Opinions blinded by nostalgia- Time to get real!"


I guess we were all living fakely before this thread.

[Thunderblaze16]

Every time I see your name, I mean, couldn't you have come up with something more creative than the console's basic name?

[makinagenesis]

I must admit, I tried to play Golden Axe some time back and it really is pretty awful.

I really like Kid Chameleon though and only played it for the first time a couple of years ago.

i was born in George Elliot hospital

[sheath]

Taz-Mania was only good on SMS, the MD game while graphically nice, grinds my ears with its horrible music and the gameplay side did not compare to SMS game.

I don't think the Master System game was released over here. I'll have to give the SMS version a shot then, and I agree that the music was weird in the Genesis game.

[MY99]

Why Altered Beast was picked as the pack-in game doesn't really seem much of a mystery to me. It was a showcase, with big sprites, nice backgrounds, impressive cutscenes, and perhaps most importantly, a two player mode. Visually, a big shift up from the Master System, or anything else for that matter. The game not being much cop was something you found after you'd got it home, realising you needed to buy more games.

Looking down the roster of early titles I can't see anything that would've showcased the system better upfront until you get down to maybe Thunder Force II (and that's third party). Beyond that, Ghouls 'N' Ghosts (third party originally) and then Revenge Of Shinobi. And by then we're almost into 1990.

[Bastardcat]

Robot Tank isn't as good as I remember it being...