Which one is cheapest to collect for, 32X or Neo-Geo?

[QuickSciFi]

I understand Darxide might've thrown-off your spending limit, but that's just one of 40ish games. The Neo Geo AES is just about the most expensive game system for which to collect (system & games included).

As for the Everdrive comment: I don't think putting an entire library in one re-writable cartridge accounts for the term "collecting."

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Nevermind, I just read Clessy's comment after yours. I see what you did there. He really seems to be under the impression that NEO GEO collecting is cheaper than most systems.

[StarMist]

You're saying a complete collection for Saturn, Genesis, Dreamcast, Xbox, ps1 or ps2 are cheaper than a complete collection for Neogeo? Ps1 has something like 10,000 games. I'd say not only is it more costly fucking impossible.

Why am I responding to this?
The PS1 # is more like 2,200 to 2,500. As inexpensive as shipping bulk economy can be most PS1 games shipped from Jp will weigh in at $3 to $4; from US to Jp would be more expensive, as US sellers just don't have them in bulk the way JP sellers do, nor ever sell them at 1 cent opening bids; shipping from both regions to England, Europe, or the rest of the world could hardly be advantageous. Whilst there are probably fewer than two dozen PS1 games that regularly fetch over $100, that'd still make 2 to 3 $thousand, plus all the genteiban packages, plus the inevitable pricy PAL exclusives, and the consideration no collection would be legitimate that preferred the later US CD-case runs to the original longboxes. Plus all that range of $15 to $40 games--they don't all sell for milk money.
The PS2 would be much the same, whilst the Saturn has two regions of longboxes to ship.
That still doesn't make the NeoGeo cheap to collect for.

[Obviously]

Except for the handful of rare 32X titles like Spider-Man and Darkxide, etc. the entire library is (relatively) as cheap as dirt and easy to collect.

The Neo Geo will empty out a large chunk of your bank account. Where did your friend get this $50 figure? That's insane. Tell him I'd gladly buy a complete Neo Geo collection from him for $50.

[Genesis Knight]

Pretty sure all you guys are getting trolled hard by Clessy.

[Obviously]

Pretty sure all you guys are getting trolled hard by Clessy.

I should stop taking long breaks from Sega-16. I miss too much.

[Clessy]

We're talking console versions here - not arcade versions. Had there been an arcade version of Darxide for less than $50 I'd definitely have bought that one instead. If you go with the NGCD, you won't get all games and you will waste half your life waiting for those loadtimes.

Also, it's a well known fact Darxide is a great game. If you don't agree with that, your opinion is "wrong", as you would have put it yourself, and as this poll also shows.

Thats not what we we're talking at all. In fact I never even said 32x was cheaper than neogeo directly if we post the whole conversation. I was making fun of you for paying $1300 for some shitty game that you have no intentions of playing. I said if you can spend $1300 on a pos you might as well buy for neogeo and actually of gotten a good game like Metal Slug.

Also no on collects AES anymore. Maybe drug dealers and celebrates or something.

[Barone]

Also no on collects AES anymore. Maybe drug dealers and celebrates or something.

Warning! This video may contain drug dealers:

[Zebbe]

I was making fun of you

For yourself? I wasn't laughing.

for paying $1300 for some shitty game that you have no intentions of playing.

What do you know? I do have intentions of playing it.

I said if you can spend $1300 on a pos you might as well buy for neogeo and actually of gotten a good game like Metal Slug.

You fail to see the difference between collecting and casual playing. And Metal Slug sucks.

Also no on collects AES anymore.

Prove it.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

The NeoGeo boards are made up entirely of Celebrates and Drug Dealers then? Maybe this explains why so much crazy stuff happens there...

[Guntz]

Yeah I'd be willing to believe that, considering how vicious the forums are there.

AES collecting at this point would be comparable to N64 prototype collecting now, by that I mean they are both exclusive and sales are barely ever made public. Sometimes a valuable AES game lands in the NG.com marketplace, but nothing REALLY high end like Metal Slug 1 (authentic), Kizuna Encounter EU, Winning Eleven and that Japanese Chibi Quiz game or whatever it's called. Most of the games I see are middle to low tier AES games and everything MVS.

I would agree with the notion that AES collecting is a wallet breaker, but there are ways to cut down on the expense when it comes to NEO-GEO. One can easily pick up an AES console these days for around $130. I've seen a couple sell near that mark on NG.com before. Others have said the value on them has been going down over the past few years. As for games, there are some games that are equal or less than their MVS counterparts. If you really want to cut some expense, try buying cart only. The funny thing is, since nobody thinks of or wants to buy a loose AES cart, most of the time they are worth 1/3 of a complete copy's worth. It's an option worth considering...

[sketch]

Yeah I'd be willing to believe that, considering how vicious the forums are there.

AES collecting at this point would be comparable to N64 prototype collecting now, by that I mean they are both exclusive and sales are barely ever made public. Sometimes a valuable AES game lands in the NG.com marketplace, but nothing REALLY high end like Metal Slug 1 (authentic), Kizuna Encounter EU, Winning Eleven and that Japanese Chibi Quiz game or whatever it's called. Most of the games I see are middle to low tier AES games and everything MVS.

I would agree with the notion that AES collecting is a wallet breaker, but there are ways to cut down on the expense when it comes to NEO-GEO. One can easily pick up an AES console these days for around $130. I've seen a couple sell near that mark on NG.com before. Others have said the value on them has been going down over the past few years. As for games, there are some games that are equal or less than their MVS counterparts. If you really want to cut some expense, try buying cart only. The funny thing is, since nobody thinks of or wants to buy a loose AES cart, most of the time they are worth 1/3 of a complete copy's worth. It's an option worth considering...

Man, don't get my mind going down that road where I think it might be practical to collect AES I had one briefly but the best games are outrageously priced. You're right though that there are some decent games that are affordable (or at least, under $50). It's still way too pricey a system for me to collect for, but if I had the cash, I would. It's got some great games and great controllers. In spite of what Zebbe says, I think Metal Slug rocks (at least, MS 1 & 3).

[Clessy]

Man, don't get my mind going down that road where I think it might be practical to collect AES I had one briefly but the best games are outrageously priced. You're right though that there are some decent games that are affordable (or at least, under $50). It's still way too pricey a system for me to collect for, but if I had the cash, I would. It's got some great games and great controllers. In spite of what Zebbe says, I think Metal Slug rocks (at least, MS 1 & 3).

Seriously why don't you just do what every single practical neogeo collector does. Buy MVS. I know you guys wanna refuite the fact they neogeo games can be reasonably priced but, you guys pretend like people still really collect AES. Go to the neogeo site 95% of for sale is mvs.

[sketch]

Seriously why don't you just do what every single practical neogeo collector does. Buy MVS. I know you guys wanna refuite the fact they neogeo games can be reasonably priced but, you guys pretend like people still really collect AES. Go to the neogeo site 95% of for sale is mvs.

MVS is seriously cheaper, but it ain't cheap. The startup cost is more, as hardware is pricey (especially if you want a consolized MVS) and while the games are cheaper, you're still paying $20-50 bucks for games, and there are still a lot of premium games that cost more. I'm a cheap bastard I prefer my classic gaming to be at discount pricing, so I'll never collect Neo Geo stuff unless A) the bottom falls out of the market (unlikely) or B) I win the lottery (even less likely).

[Guntz]

Yes, most people understate how expensive a good CMVS or Supergun + MVS board setup really costs. Most professional Superguns sell for between $200 and $350, with widely ranging features. The high end ones have component video out, for instance. CMVSes are more expensive due to how much more work is involved in making one, but the kind without cases are somewhat reasonable, sitting near the $250 - $300 mark.

The absolute cheapest way to get into MVS is to buy a nice cheap MVS board (most anything except the MV-1B, 1C and any of the multislots) and build your own Supergun. Stock MVS 1-slot boards are valued between $50 and $100, mostly depending on the particular model. The parts to make a Supergun can be anywhere between $75 and $130, depending on what kinds of things you want to include/exclude and if shipping is involved. If anyone wants to know the specifics, here's a quick rundown of the bare minimum parts for a Supergun:

$15 - JAMMA Harness (full wiring)
$40 - RGB Encoder (cheaper if you make one yourself, more expensive if you choose brands like JROK, NeoBitz or buy a Component board)
$10 - Project box (rough estimate, I never bought one)
$3 - DB-15 panel mount jacks
$5 - S-Video + RCA jacks
$10 - Switches and jacks (get a DPST on - off for your power switch too)
$15 - Dual voltage PSU (JammaNationX has a very nice one, requires 5-pin DIN panel mount jack)
$5 - Miscellaneous parts, like resistors for the audio attenuation and some LEDs

That right there comes to $103, the total is a rough estimate. Your mileage may vary.

Trust me Sketch, I'm a cheap bastard too, but one shouldn't compare NEO-GEO to something like the Genesis, where almost everything is dirt cheap. MVS is very economical to collect for and easy on your wallet, just don't go buy expensive games like Twinkle Star Sprites and Puzzle Bobble 2 / Bust-A-Move Again and you'll do just fine. Metal Slug 3 for $60 is a pretty reasonable price, all things considered (like how most retail games are a rip-off at $60).

[sketch]

Yes, most people understate how expensive a good CMVS or Supergun + MVS board setup really costs. Most professional Superguns sell for between $200 and $350, with widely ranging features. The high end ones have component video out, for instance. CMVSes are more expensive due to how much more work is involved in making one, but the kind without cases are somewhat reasonable, sitting near the $250 - $300 mark.

The absolute cheapest way to get into MVS is to buy a nice cheap MVS board (most anything except the MV-1B, 1C and any of the multislots) and build your own Supergun. Stock MVS 1-slot boards are valued between $50 and $100, mostly depending on the particular model. The parts to make a Supergun can be anywhere between $75 and $130, depending on what kinds of things you want to include/exclude and if shipping is involved. If anyone wants to know the specifics, here's a quick rundown of the bare minimum parts for a Supergun:

$15 - JAMMA Harness (full wiring)
$40 - RGB Encoder (cheaper if you make one yourself, more expensive if you choose brands like JROK, NeoBitz or buy a Component board)
$10 - Project box (rough estimate, I never bought one)
$3 - DB-15 panel mount jacks
$5 - S-Video + RCA jacks
$10 - Switches and jacks (get a DPST on - off for your power switch too)
$15 - Dual voltage PSU (JammaNationX has a very nice one, requires 5-pin DIN panel mount jack)
$5 - Miscellaneous parts, like resistors for the audio attenuation and some LEDs

That right there comes to $103, the total is a rough estimate. Your mileage may vary.

Trust me Sketch, I'm a cheap bastard too, but one shouldn't compare NEO-GEO to something like the Genesis, where almost everything is dirt cheap. MVS is very economical to collect for and easy on your wallet, just don't go buy expensive games like Twinkle Star Sprites and Puzzle Bobble 2 / Bust-A-Move Again and you'll do just fine. Metal Slug 3 for $60 is a pretty reasonable price, all things considered (like how most retail games are a rip-off at $60).

Unfortunately I'm also technically inept, so my building a supergun is only slightly more plausible than me winning the lottery MVS is definitely the way to go for Neo Geo collecting, and it can be affordable, but certainly not inexpensive (from the perspective of a Genesis collector anyway). The Genesis gives the best bang for the buck IMHO.