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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    It has ONE better song. ONE.
    The first stage theme, that's it.
    You actually like this



    Better than this?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Black Falcon
    Nope. Bloodlines is the problem, not me. I have no trouble with Super Castlevania IV (SNES) and Dracula X: Rondo of Blood (TCD), and have finished both games. Both of those are outstanding games, among the best platformers of the generation. In comparison Bloodlines is third or fourth tier.

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    Yes, because of the guitar, makes the composition more interesting.
    Of course it can't compete in sound quality with a CD tune, but then everything that's not CD Audio is crap.

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    Ok I need some help here. What enemies and bosses were new in Dracula X and weren't in Rondo of Blood ? The 2 headed dog is the 1st level boss in Dracula X and is he even in ROB ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDragon View Post
    Ok I need some help here. What enemies and bosses were new in Dracula X and weren't in Rondo of Blood ? The 2 headed dog is the 1st level boss in Dracula X and is he even in ROB ?
    Dracula X bosses:
    http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/NewCV/gbg-cv5.htm

    Rondo bosses:
    http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/NewCV/gbg-rob.htm

    I also like DX artwork more than Rondo's. Too bad there's not much of it and the ingame cutscenes are lacking.
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    And here's Rondo's. Too anime-generic imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zetastrike View Post
    That SNES clip seems to have the benefit of unfiltered emulated audio at a high bitrate as well. No SNES game sounds that clear.
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    I too like the Snes one better. In fact some Dracula X tunes sound better on the Snes, like Vampire Killer, and Opus 13.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    That SNES clip seems to have the benefit of unfiltered emulated audio at a high bitrate as well. No SNES game sounds that clear.
    240p makes it sound close to the real SNES in this video:

    Actually sounds better filtered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid87 View Post
    Dracula X bosses:
    http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/NewCV/gbg-cv5.htm

    Rondo bosses:
    http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/NewCV/gbg-rob.htm

    I also like DX artwork more than Rondo's. Too bad there's not much of it and the ingame cutscenes are lacking.
    offart6.jpgoffart7.jpgoffart8.jpgoffart9.jpg

    And here's Rondo's. Too anime-generic imo.
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    Here are some better comparisons:

    Quote Originally Posted by awack

    The SCIV and Bloodline rips were put together from various other rips on the net.

    One thing i noticed after playing Rondo and then going straight to Draxx, is that Dracxx feels likes its in slow motion,especially the boss fights, i mean sloooow.




    Death Rondo


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    Here are some more Rondo vs Dracula XX specific comparisons-



    Rondo Dracxx

    SCIV Bloodlines










    Rondo Dracxx, forgot to add the 2 bones.

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    Rondo

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    Rondo dracxx

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    Homerism aside, Rondo is far superior.

    And...
    When the original composition uses a guitar lead you can say whatever you want, but a generic trumpet or an organ (or whatever it is) will never be better, simply 'cause it should be a guitar and not another instrument.

    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    That SNES clip seems to have the benefit of unfiltered emulated audio at a high bitrate as well. No SNES game sounds that clear.
    I like how those SNES "top" tracks are always taken from enhanced emulation.
    That example is clearly faked by emulation since it has no sign of interpolation and the hardware forces it (and, usually, + some losses in quality due to compression used to fit in the cartridge/sound RAM), it's not optional at all.
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    Interesting how Bloodlines Frankenstein is much taller. SCV IV Frankenstein clearly looks the worst. I also thought Dracula's "demon form" in Bloodlines was terrible compared to the other games. His demon form in Drac X looked much nicer and in Rondo it was incredible. Im now convinced the character art and design in Rondo was far superior to Bloodlines and SC IV.

    I mean look at his demon form in Bloodlines and compare it to his in Rondo and it its not even close to the quality it is in Rondo. I cant belive how badly drawn and designed it is in Bloodlines. He had no 2nd form in SC IV I dont think.
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    Yeah, the animation in Rondo is great. But what about background art? It looks kinda lacking really.

    Rondo:


    Dracula X:


    Castlevania IV


    And no, I am not against Rondo. A like all the classic CV games but I find Rondo is the most overrated one of them.
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    I dont think any classic CV game is overrated but a few are underrated. If anything SOTN is overrated because of how they changed the gameplay of the series and how they started to make Alucard the main character. I never played SOTN but I played the GBA CV's which are similar and I got lost/stuck so many times that I got bored and I started to question if SOTN really changed this series for the better,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDragon View Post
    I dont think any classic CV game is overrated but a few are underrated. If anything SOTN is overrated because of how they changed the gameplay of the series and how they started to make Alucard the main character. I never played SOTN but I played the GBA CV's which are similar and I got lost/stuck so many times that I got bored and I started to question if SOTN really changed this series for the better,.
    You should play SOTN itself because no GBA game is that good. Even DS titles do not quite reach it's awesomeness with only Order of Ecclesia being close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid87 View Post
    Yeah, the animation in Rondo is great. But what about background art? It looks kinda lacking really.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    They are? [rondo's graphics considered better] Never heard that :S, Dracula X has crazy effects and far more detailed backgrounds than Rondo. Rondo isn't even a really good looking PC Engine game, it's just "good" for what the console can do. I guess the huge amount of games with terrible graphics kinda makes the game seem better visually than it is, I don't know. It has excellent sprite animation at least, better than Dracula X by quite a bit.
    You did select some biased stages though , Rondo has much better looking stages than those.

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