Any things that Revenge of Shinobi does better than Shinobi III ?

[sheath]

Heheh, there was something awesome about fighting Batman, Spiderman, Godzilla, The Terminator, Bruce Lee, Electra and Rambo while knowing full well nobody was paid for those cameos.

[retrospiel]

Shinobi III is excellent, but it's not really comparable with Revenge. They're very different games.

[profholt82]

RoS is one of Sega's gifts to humanity. It is nearly a perfect game. SIII is much flashier and has slightly tighter controls, but it just doesn't have what RoS has. I liken it a great movie and its sequel. The sequel always has a bigger budget and better special effects, but it never quite lives up to the original. Well, the fact that RoS was one of Sega's first MD games, It feels like they put their hearts and souls into it. SIII, while an excellent game, just doesn't have the same feel as SoR. It's great in its own right, but it's not the masterpiece that is SoR.

[SEGA.GENESIS1989]

Oh my goodness! i never knew so many of you fellow SEGA enthusiasts loved Revenge of Shinobi! And here I thought I was in the minority! Boy was I wrong!

I won't bore anyone by repeating what everyone else has already so poignantly. Personally, Although I think Shinobi III is a good game, I still feel that Revenge of Shinobi has all the necessary elements that make it great! It was one of those games on the system that made you appreciate the fact that you owned a SEGA Genesis/Mega Drive!

[Cornholio857]

I prefer RoS over Shinobi 3. Here's why:

This game as others have said has the better music and atmosphere. When I play RoS I can almost imagine that I am a ninja on a journey from Japan to the dark, urban streets of America. The levels are very well designed and have a high attention to detail. When Joe is on the rooftops in Chinatown with that awesome Yuzo track playing, complete with the night skyline in the background, it's special. I don't know, you almost feel as if you are with Joe every step of the way. RoS also seemed more "real" to me. What I mean by that is that it doesn't have the many sci-fi elements that are in Shinobi 3. In regards to the controls and gameplay, I actually prefer having to move a little slower and sneaking around. Seems more Ninja-y to me.

One of the biggest reasons why I prefer RoS over Shinobi 3 is the music. Yes, the music. Don't get me wrong, Shinobi 3 has some kick ass tracks. Some of the best on the Genesis. But there's just something about the music in RoS. And no, nostalgia goggles are not on. I guess the best way I can explain it is that the music is perfectly suited to the level you're on. In Chinatown? You get the kick ass Chinatown BGM. Fighting a boss? You get a perfect adrenaline pumping Boss Theme. Not just that, the music in the opening and later in the introduction gets me pumped and ready to play. That's about the best I can explain it. LOL RoS will always be my favorite Shinobi game.

[Thenewguy]

I really don't see any of this atmosphere people are talking of, for me RoS' presentation is synonymous with dull, generic environments, and tacky boss fights.

In Shinobi III you're running across the screen with a forest inferno in the background, exploring a laboratory with grostesque monsters leaping out at you, attacking an air ship at nightime with loads of cloud parallax and the moon in the background, even the lift section has a fairly nice neo tokyo style background in it.

Shadow Dancer also has the fire motif as you move through the city on fire, and when the bassline kicked in on the Statue of Liberty stage and the ninja started to appear it used to really get my blood pumping when I was like 10

Whilst Revenge of Shinobi has you walking through an airport, and a scrapyard, by a roadside, the ever present late 80s waterfall level etc, nothing paticularly stands out to me. Which levels are the ones which scream "atmosphere" to you guys?

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From RoS Joe Musashi felt to me to be the most useless ninja of all time, a slow moving idiot who wanders up to his enemies whilst facing them with no grace, no finesse, no skill

The Joe of Shinobi 3 strikes me as being gracefull, skilled, and stealthy.

Hayate from Shadow Dancer doesn't have the grace, but unlike RoS he has a feeling of power and ruthlessness, his sword swipes have a big arc, he nonchalantly kicks people in the face after they jump out of windows at him, he's unfazed by jumping off of high roofs and free falling for 5 minutes etc.

[Cornholio857]

Which levels are the ones which scream "atmosphere" to you guys?

Chinatown hands down.

[Thenewguy]

One thing I didn't like about Shinobi III was the surfing, felt like a very cheesy addition, outside of that the levels don't have as much cohesion of those in RoS (the environments jump about a lot and don't seem to join), and RoS is a much longer game which takes more practice to complete.

Personally, to me those are its only plus points compared to SIII

[StarMist]

I really don't see any of this atmosphere people are talking of, for me RoS' presentation is synonymous with dull, generic environments, and tacky boss fights.

"Tacky"? At least they're present; has Shinobi III even one boss? --- I know it does, I mean it's madly easy. That's the difference between the games, the ease and the speed (sure there's the no shuriken option, but I'm not xeroshinobi or TmEE). I too prefer Shinobi III but it leaves very little impression since one races through it; even if one is having a bad day or for whatever reason struggling it's very insubstantial with all that straight left to right and at least two lvs' forced scrolling (+ the lift lv, though it's harder and slower). With RoS one actually spends enough time on any given lv for it to impress its charms, slighter though they are (graphically). But despite composition RoS does have 16 bit launch graphics which have their own character, a simplicity and low key realism that was found less and less over the years and by `93 was pretty much gone, at least from the Genesis.
Btw all the backgrounds/settings in Shinobi III are stock anime or historical fantasy. Nothing new there either.

[Team Andromeda]

The atmosphere and music.

Yep, plus it was a much better game with the better bosses and some of the best music and sound effects ever. Oh and the exploding enemies effect was done better . To me Revenge of Shinobi is the closest SEGA ever got the a perfect game like Mario IV

[Kamahl]

Yep, plus it was a much better game with the better bosses and some of the best music and sound effects ever. Oh and the exploding enemies effect was done better . To me Revenge of Shinobi is the closest SEGA ever got the a perfect game like Mario IV

You lost me at Mario IV (not that it's a bad game by any means but... perfect? )

[Mark Robert]

Like already mentioned you fight iconic bosses in ROS like Spiderman, Batman, the hulk who has a terminator skeleton and Godzilla. Shinobi III has mostly forgettable bosses.

[Kamahl]

Like already mentioned you fight iconic bosses in ROS like Spiderman, Batman, the hulk who has a terminator skeleton and Godzilla. Shinobi III has mostly forgettable bosses.

The final boss in Shinobi 3 is awesome though, and the music much more so. Shame he just kinda comes out of nowhere.

[sheath]

Yeah, Shinobi III would have been even better if that last Boss was known about prior to the end. Do you even walk into that room to explain why everything goes all VR, or just appear there and fight a baddass robot ninja?

All the same, this is probably the best last boss of any Shinobi game.

[Nobi]

Shinobi III is my favorite in the series, but Revenge, and even Shadow Dancer are both way up on my list(probobly my top 3 personal favorite Genesis games to be honest). I think it is cool, and interesting that there are those that prefer Revenge over III, for many of the same reasons that I prefer Streets of Rage 1 over 2, and 3 combined. Both Revenge, and III satisfy in different ways, and are a nice compliment to each other.