How successful do you think the Wii U will be ?

[TheSonicRetard]

Lol, there's like maybe a crappy tech demo or two(the Japanese probally have a few real games, but I doubt they have many, and even then you could probally play such on the reg DS, just can't use certain features), but 99% of this so called library, is DSi Ware(a crappy version of the wiiware network). Please the DSi VS DS Isn't comparible at all to the wii vs GC.

Does anyone really need more proof that what I said is true beyond Zoltor disagreeing? That fucker is always wrong, hence if he disagrees, you know I'm right.

[Televator]

The intended meaning when saying something (GCN) IS another thing (Wii) is quite obvious.Indicative of be. Understand what that means?

Oh yeah...semantics. The last resort of those truly "Caught with their pants down."

If you want to talk about straws, that's exactly what you have been doing by conveniently throwing the word "modified" in the mix to suggest that's what's meant when people say the Wii is a GCN.

...and then accuse the the other person of your own fault with a completely incorrect interpretation of said fallacy. What I was trying to do was to rephrase the statement into something that might convey better understanding of the meaning. Nothing more.

[Zoltor]

Does anyone really need more proof that what I said is true beyond Zoltor disagreeing? That fucker is always wrong, hence if he disagrees, you know I'm right.

The wii is a completely original, and different console, only graphic whores could ever dare to call it the same as the GC, becoase all they care about is graphic power(aka if It's not 3 times more powerful, all it is, is a redesign).

Graphic power Isn't everything.

[TheSonicRetard]

The wii is a completely original, and different console, only graphic whores could ever dare to call it the same as the GC, becoase all they care about is graphic power(aka if It's not 3 times more powerful, all it is, is a redesign).

Graphic power Isn't everything.

Only people who don't know dick about computers would think more ram and a faster clock speed is "completely original" and "different console."

Aka zoltor

[Zoltor]

Only people who don't know dick about computers would think more ram and a faster clock speed is "completely original" and "different console."

Aka zoltor

Oh yea a internet connection/wifi, a completely different OS, a intergrated motion control system(It's not just a add on), SD card slot(did the GC have USB funtionality, I forget if it did), saving "can not" be done on the GC memory card for wii games, even though the wii is BC, why? Because the wii game architexture is completely different from the GC(likewise, you have to rewrite a port for the wii, you can't just transfer everything to a wii Disc, and call it a day). If they were the same systems or even close, you would beable to save to the GC memory card.

They are radically different systems.

[TheSonicRetard]

Oh yea a internet connection/wifi, a completely different OS, a intergrated motion control system(It's not just a add on), SD card slot(did the GC have USB funtionality, I forget if it did), saving "can not" be done on the GC memory card for wii games, even though the wii is BC, why? Because the wii game architexture is completely different from the GC(likewise, you have to rewrite a port for the wii, you can't just transfer everything to a wii Disc, and call it a day).

They are radically different systems.

lmao "architexture." You literally don't know what the word architecture means.

And yes, you can plop a GCN game onto a Wii disc and it'll run. Homebrew people have done this.

[Zoltor]

lmao "architexture." You literally don't know what the word architecture means.

And yes, you can plop a GCN game onto a Wii disc and it'll run. Homebrew people have done this.

Of course you can, It's BS moron, I was hinting at, you can't put a wii game in a GC.

But then It's a GC game, not a wii game, there's a differance.

[TheSonicRetard]

Of course you can, It's BS moron, I was hinting at, you can't put a wii game in a GC.

likewise, you have to rewrite a port for the wii, you can't just transfer everything to a wii Disc

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[JCU]

You have a very selective application of context... I cared enough to present a point about the Wii, which I share with many people, without it being misrepresented by your use of straw men. I don't care enough to know about the "feelings" you get from the Wii that make it feel like a different system from the GCN.

You've assumed what people meant and even threw in the word "modified" as if to change the discussion. Unless I am not seeing your words correctly, your interpretation of "The Wii was a GCN........" actually means "The Wii is a modified GCN." You don't want to hear the differences nor do you want to hear when people are giving a FACTUALLY wrong interpretation of the system. We're not talking about whether or not the Wii is a good system. We're discussing facts.

What's this about "downplaying"? Who's using the parlor tricks around here? Futile? You act as though you've spoken so factually. Well lets talk about a matter of fact... Answer this: Is the hardware and software in/on the Wii more the same than different (or vise versa) than the GCN? The spec sheets are out there on the hardware and there is much about the software that literally carried over from the GCN. There is a factual answer to this question that reflects the very real info available on both consoles. Any other answer is mere spin tactics. Also, you're trying to wedge in this completely subjective "feeling" angle which in no way entitles you to use words like "futile".

Every substantial difference between the Wii and GCN has been minimized by yourself or another. Even your spec link shows differences. Do you consider a a faster processor and ram to be minor? These are differences which place the Wii well ahead of its predecessor. You can ignore any of the differences but it won't make them go away. A system 1.5-2x's more powerful then what it replaced is significant.

[Zoltor]

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I thought you meant something else at first, I fixed.

It's not a wii game then, It's just a GC game.

If you want to release a actual wii game, you have to rewrite it from scratch, becaues the wii can do a lot more things then the GC.

[TheSonicRetard]

There is no difference.

[Zoltor]

"Every substantial difference between the Wii and GCN has been minimized by yourself or another. Even your spec link shows differences. Do you consider a a faster processor and ram to be minor? These are differences which place the Wii well ahead of its predecessor. You can ignore any of the differences but it won't make them go away. A system 1.5-2x's more powerful then what it replaced is significant. "

Exactly

[TheSonicRetard]

"Every substantial difference between the Wii and GCN has been minimized by yourself or another. Even your spec link shows differences. Do you consider a a faster processor and ram to be minor? These are differences which place the Wii well ahead of its predecessor. You can ignore any of the differences but it won't make them go away. A system 1.5-2x's more powerful then what it replaced is significant. "

Exactly

Being faster with more ram is not being 1.5-2x more powerful. That statement alone doesn't even make sense. There is no way to quantify power.

Architecture is what matters, and it uses the exact same architecture as the GCN. It can't do anything the GCN couldn't do.

The Xbox 360, by contrast, can do loads of things the Xbox couldn't do. And no, I'm not talking about "hurf durf it can use this peripheral, which was never released on the original xbox in the first place!" I'm talking about hardware differences. You know, the stuff above your head that you don't understand.

[Bastardcat]

When I google Gamecube tech specs and Wii tech specs, they sure look different to me.
Different CPU, different GPU, etc.
From what I read about the processors, it would be like saying "This Pentium III PC is basically the same thing as this Pentium II based PC."

[Zoltor]

Being faster with more ram is not being 1.5-2x more powerful. That statement alone doesn't even make sense. There is no way to quantify power.

Architecture is what matters, and it uses the exact same architecture as the GCN. It can't do anything the GCN couldn't do.

The Xbox 360, by contrast, can do loads of things the Xbox couldn't do. And no, I'm not talking about "hurf durf it can use this peripheral, which was never released on the original xbox in the first place!" I'm talking about hardware differences. You know, the stuff above your head that you don't understand.

Right there proves you're full of it, ithe wii does many, many, many things the GC can't do, on top of that (since all you focus on is graphic power), it is infact capeable of having graphics that the GC can't do.