Foxconn employees,"makers of xbox" threaten mass suicide over work conditions and pay

[Thunderblaze16]

Read all about it!
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/techn...ce-work/47193/

[Zoltor]

Read all about it!
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/techn...ce-work/47193/

Am I the only person whom finds it funny that a people well known for working for peanuts, are demanding more money?

Aside from that, the company head is so wrong for going back on their promises(that is so unacceptible even in a communist country, infact It's discouraged more then here in the US, so It's shocking a company seemingly could get away with such).

[Kamahl]

Love the Apple and Microsoft targeting, pretty much the entire computer related hardware industry depends on those guys.

[Bastardcat]

Name an electronics company, their stuff is manufactured by Foxconn.

[Chilly Willy]

The funny thing is, Foxconn as a company has a much lower rate of suicide than the general population in China. The national average in China is about 23 per 100,000 people, and given Foxconn employs 400,000 employees, you'd expect them to have an average of almost 100 suicides per year. At 18 last year, they're well behind on their quota.

[Baloo]

The funny thing is, Foxconn as a company has a much lower rate of suicide than the general population in China. The national average in China is about 23 per 100,000 people, and given Foxconn employs 400,000 employees, you'd expect them to have an average of almost 100 suicides per year. At 18 last year, they're well behind on their quota.

Man, that is just awfully high.

Gotta love Communism! In Soviet China, Job does NOT pay You!

[Bastardcat]

Remember when "Made in China" was used to describe rare and exotic stuffs?

[Zoltor]

Man, that is just awfully high.

Gotta love Communism! In Soviet China, Job does NOT pay You!

Please, the way that company cuts corners, they're lucky they get paid at all(their shotty soldering lol, if I recall the issue with the 360 was they used lead, a super soft metal, to solder parts that would be exposed to massive heat, thus degrading the soldering, lol what morons).

[MN12BIRD]

Please, the way that company cuts corners, they're lucky they get paid at all(their shotty soldering lol, if I recall the issue with the 360 was they used lead, a super soft metal, to solder parts that would be exposed to massive heat, thus degrading the soldering, lol what morons).

Well Foxconn also makes the motherboards for the PS3 and the Wii and none of those had a similar problem. The issue was more likely due to M$ designs or specs, not the manufacturing. Not to mention Apple products (all made by Foxconn) aren't exactly known for being unreliable either. Nor is Intel motherboards for that matter, also made by Foxconn. As others have mentioned Foxconn makes EVERYTHING for EVERYONE. They really do.

[Zz Badnusty]

Am I the only person whom finds it funny that a people well known for working for peanuts, are demanding more money?

This makes absolutely no sense to me.

Isn't it funny that people who were used to working as slaves wanted freedom and opportunity?! hahahaha
No.

Remember when "Made in China" was used to describe rare and exotic stuffs?

No. (well, besides porcelain)

[Zoltor]

The PS3 tends to blow up as well(but they can'e be repaired when that happens), but I'm not sure if It's caused by the POS OS the PS3 has or is a motherboard/manufacturing. Really they make the wii as well, Nintendo must be "very" specific in what parts they use, as well as how to put it together then.

[MN12BIRD]

Well the only reason the Wii isn't having the same issues is there isn't nearly as much heat to deal with. The Wii only has a single core CPU that runs at under 0.8GHz (~729MHz) while the 360 has a tripple core CPU that runs at 3.2GHz! It's like...... 6 times+ more powerful! Same can be said with the GPU. The GPU in the Wii only runs at 243MHz while the GPU in the 360 runs at 500MHz and probably has like 4 times the shader cores! The Processors in the 360 and PS3 are so much more powerful, they're going to use that much more power and generate much more heat. It's not hard to keep a Wii cool. The tiny fan in the rear is more than enough.

[AD2101]

Am I the only person whom finds it funny that a people well known for working for peanuts, are demanding more money?

Nope, makes perfect sense to me. It would be funny if people well known for making shit tons of money demand more money, but this makes sense.

I doubt these people will get their raise, as I doubt they'll have a hard time refilling these positions.

[Zoltor]

Well the only reason the Wii isn't having the same issues is there isn't as much heat. The Wii only has a single core CPU that runs at under 0.8GHz while the 360 has a tripple core CPU that runs at 3.2GHz! It's like...... 6 times+ more powerful! Same can be said with the GPU. The Processors in the 360 and PS3 are so much more powerful, they're going to use more power and generate more heat. It's not hard to keep a Wii cool. The tiny fan in the rear is more than enough!

The wii is like 10x more compact(aka less empty space inside), it generates a good amount of heat. Really how much heat doesn't matter if It's put together correctly, and has enough fans cooling it down(in the 360s case, it was definitely a manufacturing issue, not lack of cooling)

[MN12BIRD]

Yeah it's smaller but it also has no Hard Drive inside, nor does it have a PSU inside like the original PS3. The smaller size only means you're feeling the ambient temperature in the system that much more when you feel the outside shell. But the temp at the actual CPU and GPU cores on the Wii is not going to be nearly as hot as the PS3 or 360. The fact the processors aren't going to use as much wattage also means there's less VRM on the motherboard around them to support that. Much less on the board and much less heat at board level. The fact it's smaller says little and the processors are clocked at unimaginably slow speeds in comparison. Clock speeds and the required voltages for higher clock speeds generates heat. If you ramped a Wii CPU up to 3.2GHz it would burst into flames and meltdown to china. 700 MHz is what my Pentium III ran at 12 years ago in 1999. The ORIGINAL XBOX ran at 733MHz!! The Wii CPU runs at a slower clock speed than the previous gen XBOX! I mean I could probably underclock my 3GHz CPU in my PC to 700MHz and it would run so cool I could turn off all the fans and it would run all year with no damage! But the second it ramped up to 3GHz it would be in danger!

Beyond that Yes M$ had a horrible design for the heatsinks in the 360 and they definitely could have made the systems more reliable with a better layout. But the systems are built down to a price. My point was I don't think that was Foxconns fault. They built what they're told and M$ design would state not just that but also the materials used. They don't make any money off the hardware and no one wants the price of the system to increase, they want it to decrease but with time the design improved. The CPU and GPU also got combined into one chip and they've had several die shrinks prior, meaning they can make the same processors run on less power and generate less heat. I haven't heard of the modern 360's having nearly the issues the older ones had. So they have improved it. But probably too little to late to be honest. They should have improved the motherboard and HSF designs from the start. But it would have cost too much and they took the cheaper route. The PS3 never had the issues the 360 had. Not in record numbers like the 360 anyway. Once again I assume the Slim PS3s have only improved and I haven't heard too many horror stories. Sure, there's going to be failures. But not %20+ a year like the 360 was at one time. The Wii also has no HD and that's one less thing to break and a DVD-ROM drive should be more sturdy than a BD-ROM drive witch requires more precision as the tracks on the disk are so much closer together and the laser is much smaller. That all adds up to a more reliable machine. I think most PS3 issues are the BD-ROM drive, the PSU or the HD. I've seen a few with mobo issues, GPU issues or bad vRAM but it's not common.