If you could have only one system...

[TrekkiesUnite118]

Oh god I completely missed that one. But at the same that mistake doesn't make you sound like a 5 year old when you say it out loud.

[Zoltor]

So? It's their opinion, that doesn't make them stupid.

There comes a point, when something is so overall worse/better then something else, that's It's not a opinion anymore.

[TheSonicRetard]

To Sonic: Yea sorry I don't have 1-2k to burn on a machine, and probally another 1,000 to hire a company to go pick it up, because some moron chose not to tack on another 150 for shipping.

Arcade machines don't cost $2000 unless you're buying something like a Lindberg, and shipping for a machine wouldn't be $150. My latest cabinet weighs more than a fridge, I'd estimate it's about 300 lbs. You'd going to be paying several hundred dollars to ship something like that.

[TheSonicRetard]

There comes a point, when something is so overall worse/better then something else, that's It's not a opinion anymore.

So about that hardware you've experienced...

[The Jackal]

There comes a point, when something is so overall worse/better then something else, that's It's not a opinion anymore.

Yeah, no. If someone has an opinion, right or wrong, if you agree with it or not, it's still their opinion and that doesn't make them stupid.

[Barone]

I am shocked, I'm not too surprised that the Gen/CD has so many votes(this is a gen/CD devoted site), but how the hell can the Saturn have more votes then the Dreamcast?

I don't understand.

I'm not shocked, I never saw you understanding anything.

Are you kidding me, the DC is a million times better then the Saturn, so you're crazy if you think that post is trolling.

Uhmmm, million times? Why?

Yea I completely agree, but this is a Sega forum, so asking for unbiased votes Isn't gonna happen, especially with their grudge towards Nintendo(I mean come on, someone voted for the SMS for crying out loud, WTF that's like the worst system on the list), and voting for the PS while Isn't as hated as Nintendo is rather taboo as well.

With all the Arcade lovers on this site, It's wierd to see the Neogeo not even get 1 Vote(they start huge topics on it, are willing to spend a fortune for the games, yet they wont vote for it, makes no sense).

Why don't you try some unbiased forums like AtariAge?
Maybe gamefaqs would fit to your brain better...

He's here to represent the average gamefaqs "I played this game in 2008 for 5 minutes on an emulator thus I'm an expert" opinion on these boards. It keeps us in reminder of why we choose to post on these sorts of boards instead of, say, Neo Gaf or some other causal "I'm hardcore because I started gaming with the PS2" board.

I think he is below average. He lacks some very basic knowledge like "PCE sold more than MD in Japan".So I think you are offending the average trolls.

I'm not like you, who would be more then happy to not have physical copies at all, and promotes emulation(the wrong use for emulation at that), I like playing real games, on real hardware, thank you very much.

Weren't you promoting the PS1? Oh, OK... Looks like several of its best collections, like the Atari, NES and MSX ones are all composed by games running thanks to emulation. Several other old arcade collections in the PS1 are also a bunch of emulators and roms... Thing is that they didn't named those emulators so half-assed trolls like you have no idea about it.

But It's not part of the system, and the games aren't part of the library, so either he's a moron(whom doesn't grasp the idea behind this topic) or he's trolling.

"Part of the system"? Holy Jesus, someone here needs help! NOW!

The 7800 is way better, I think you forgot It's BC with 2600 games as well.

Exclusives? The "only" game anyone ever brings up, is how Phantasy Star 1 wasn't ported to the Genny(some exclusive library). Really, the Genesis is basically a improved SMS(like all the noteworthy games were ported to the Genny, save PS 1)

Anyone? I think you usually talk with very limited guys like you. I'm sorry for you.

By your "brilliant" concept, I conclude that Genesis is, in fact, an improved NES since it got many ports from the NES that were never ported to the SNES.

What, the 2600 is awesome for the classic arcade style games, and WTF you bash the good Atari systems, yet like Colecovision, this has got to be the twilight zone.

Yes most of which not only were ported to other system, but are better on the other systems, and at very least there are better, much, much, much better, yet simular games to the couple that weren't ported elseware.

The Atari games and system were so superior that they were quickly vanished by the Japanese paradigm. Pretty awesome.

The 2600 is not awesome for classic arcade games - they were always well below what was available in the arcades at the time. At best, you'd get a good conversion, but none of them compare to the real deal.

And besides, those same games you're touting are available on the 7800 in better incarnations, and they're also available on the SMS.

The vast, vast majority of 2600 games are trash. Those which are not are available elsewhere in better forms. There are numerous exclusive SMS games which are not available anywhere else, like Ninja Gaiden.

This.

At the time, noone could even dream of having a arcade cab in their house, don't be a fool, I wasn't comparing it to systems that noone could own anyway.

The 7800 by It's self sucked, but unlike the SMS, It's BC with 2600. However lets take your stance, that the SMS games are =to 7800 games, lol that's a good thing? The 7800 was little more then a updated 2600, a system from the 70s, good for simple arcade style games, not much more(where the 80s is about console gaming, with more thought put into the games).

This just proves that Atari hardware sucked bad in comparison to the Japanese stuff released in the same period. They had no quality control for the games and kept re-releasing the same shit over several years.

You're a spoiled rich kid, good for you. Why would I remember every aspect of POS systems/games(lol It's something I try to forget), that I didn't buy due to it sucking(It's not worth it to own bad systems, but I don't expect you to see it that way), and there being much better systems out there.

You remember many things about the 7800, I think you're already qualified!

[eddiespruce]

Zoltor, I must ask, how old are you? It doesn't really matter, but I would appreciate you telling us anyway.

[tz101]

Without taking sides, and just making an observation:

Owning real hardware does not automatically make a person an "expert" on any given game system. I have a lot of systems in my collection, including a Saturn and 30 games for a few years now, but can tell you I am not very knowledgeable regarding the Saturn (haven't played it much). Having said that, I can tell you I played an Atari 5200 emulator extensively before buying one. That emulator showed me enough to know I liked the 5200 games and the way they played. So, demanding "real hardware" or "GTFO" is really not a valid argument at all.

[Zoltor]

Zoltor, I must ask, how old are you? It doesn't really matter, but I would appreciate you telling us anyway.

If you must know, 32(yea I'm ancient).

[TheSonicRetard]

Without taking sides, and just making an observation:

Owning real hardware does not automatically make a person an "expert" on any given game system. I have a lot of systems in my collection, including a Saturn and 30 games for a few years now, but can tell you I am not very knowledgeable regarding the Saturn (haven't played it much). Having said that, I can tell you I played an Atari 5200 emulator extensively before buying one. That emulator showed me enough to know I liked the 5200 games and the way they played. So, demanding "real hardware" or "GTFO" is really not a valid argument at all.

No one is claiming you need to actually own the hardware to know about the system. The reason I'm harping on owning real hardware is because Zoltor is claiming that I play games on emulators, and he plays on real hardware, which, to anyone paying attention, is pretty blatantly false.

Second, no one is asking for expert opinions, only informed opinions. If you've explored the 5200 library thoroughly, then by all means feel free to talk about it. If you've followed Zoltor in conversation at all, it's pretty clear he hasn't explored any of these systems he's bashing as "POS." When all he can name is Phantasy star for the SMS, he doesn't know the library. When he claims he hasn't played any PCE games, yet "hears" that it's a fighting game haven, he hasn't explored the library. The way he talks about these systems is the same way people on gamefaqs talk about systems when they've downloaded a big rom pack and spent half an hour with the thing.

In short, you shouldn't speak about what you don't know about. Especially to people who do know lots about the subject at hand.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

If you must know, 32(yea I'm ancient).

Come on, that's not nice. No need for that.

~Baloo

[Zoltor]

Sorry I'm not gonna hold these babies hands, and let them get away with claiming something dumb, like the SMS is a good system, nevermind claiming It's one of, if not the best system ever made.

[TheSonicRetard]

"You're not allowed to like the things I don't like," essentially.

[eddiespruce]

Sorry I'm not gonna hold these babies hands, and let them get away with claiming something dumb, like the SMS is a good system, nevermind claiming It's one of, if not the best system ever made.

So basically, you're trying to say that "The SMS is a bad system?"

Really?

[Baloo]

You apparently don't seem to listen or care about anyone, so take a week off. Yeesh.

Go back to your regular scheduled debate everyone, but please, no more flaming.