Megadrive vs Genesis

[TheGZeus]

Actually most studio rock/metal is still very under-produced as far as the sound quality goes. Sure, it is "over-mixed" meaning that you may hear 3 or 4 guitars simultaneously when the band has but one guitarist, etc. But rock music is mixed so that it can still sound decent on low-grade boom-boxes and car stereos/radio. It could sound so much better even on normal 44.1Khz 16-bit CD. The MiniBosses use the crappiest microphones/equipment in the world and that's why they sound so thin. They also know nothing of EQ, as they could at least smooth out their screechingly high frequencies if they cared. They may sound the same live, but their equipment sucks. If you hear a band live with good equipment, then it sounds amazingly good, not "thin".

By 'over produced' I mean piles of post-amp EQ(and anyone with a real knowledge of sound engineering will tell you that EQ IS distortion. It may not be clipping, but it is a significant alteration of the original signal) 10s of dBs of compression/gating, digital reverb on certain parts...
What mics and other kit do Minibosses use?
And that whole 'mixing to sound good on sh$% stereo' aesthetic disgusts me.
I mix with a flat system in mind, because I'm recording to...make a record of something.
"This is what happened, this is what it sounded like."

The biggest offense I hear in music today is Compression( mastering compression is bad enough, but that's on top of track-by-track protooling) and over-EQ is a close second. My favorite recording were all done live to 2 track tape with no compression, and virtually no EQ. I know these things because i know he guy who recorded it. he recorded Leo Kottke's first record, and engineered his third. Anyone who knows Kottke knows those are the ones to own. i'm not tooting MY horn. i just know the guy because I shop at his store.
EQ is useful to make up for where a mic may lack or mic placement limitations, but it's used too often to make a band/instrument sound like a totally different thing.

Maybe minibosses like that scratchy guitar sound. I mean, 'Thunderbirds Are Now!' sure do. Ever hear 'Big Black?'
If a band is looking to sound a certain way, that doesn't make them incompetent, it makes them convicted. if you don't like it, that's fine.
I can't stand hearing a Dual Rectifier. So...I don't do that.

[TheGZeus]

The second PAL one looks like "Hi, I'm Some Guy. Welcome to my website! I just got Photoshop!"
The first one looks like... some kind of russian sports car logo. Like, it LOOKS fast, but then it's got an alumium 4 cylinder under the hood, and like 120hp...for 10 miles.
Then the spoiler flies off and the grille pierces the radiator and I'm posting and drinking again.....

[Joe Redifer]

I don't know what the MiniBosses use, but it sure sounds like ass to me. I know not of the bands you describe (and don't really care). I agree that compression is bad. A lot of people may think we are talking about "compressing to MP3z", but no. Kill the dynamic range, man! Ug. Other things I don't like about the MiniBosses are their arrangements. They just aren't very good.

[Rusty Venture]

The problem with a logo that looks like it belongs on a car......is that it's not on a car....

It is on a video game box, and it looks like ass.


I just saw the Euro "Sonic 3" box and i have to admit that both logos look terrible.


Maybe it's the font.

[Mr Smith]

The first one looks like... some kind of russian sports car logo. Like, it LOOKS fast, but then it's got an alumium 4 cylinder under the hood, and like 120hp...for 10 miles.
Then the spoiler flies off and the grille pierces the radiator and I'm posting and drinking again.....

In Soveit Russia, car drives YOU!!

[ary incorparated]

the second its doesnt ruin the entire box the first log isnt in the right place with the black ugly box with grey stiper damn how ugly,the second fals just in the right place with the bright blue color,it brought retro it made future.

[ary incorparated]

Thezgeus yeah when i drink a big pot of beer slayer can be entertaining or with a couple of friends i enjoy it, but metallica i see as a bit more professional how fanbiatched they may be.the last album of slayer sucked even more then st anger.

[TheGZeus]

In Soveit Russia, car drives YOU!!

Mega drives you

[TheGZeus]

"Thezgeus yeah when i drink a big pot of beer slayer can be entertaining or with a couple of friends i enjoy it, but metallica i see as a bit more professional how fanbiatched they may be.the last album of slayer sucked even more then st anger."
I agree with everything you said.
I don't like anything after 'Reign in Blood' by slayer, except their live album. I can only listen to them once or twice a year.
Metallica is more 'professional' and 'fan based.' and that's actually why I dislike them. It sounds like someone's job and they intentionally made records to people their fans.
Slayer made records to anger their fans parents.

I just happen to find the latter entertaining.

[GeckoYamori]

The biggest offense I hear in music today is Compression( mastering compression is bad enough, but that's on top of track-by-track protooling) and over-EQ is a close second.

Since we already have EQs in regular stereo sets, I think they should include personal compressors as well so you can tweak it to your preference. Dumbasses can simply choose from pre-configured presets to "improve" the sound.

[ary incorparated]

metallica has to trow away the ego and get back to basics and seriously make records for them self and not for the record,they have to think about what they find good and not about the metallicanerds in metallica shirts the most unknown artist are at best and the most loud mouthed ones think they are,i got every single metallica record couse i like the music and i was curious for every cd,the band i dont care what they do and what they look like off course they get my respect for making some nice ear pleasure but then aggian theyre not the only band i listen to,i dont like the metallica circus they dont know they fucking up live.how many master of puppets shirts do i see on the street to many almost a sect not fun,at least they can be origenal.

[TheGZeus]

Since we already have EQs in regular stereo sets, I think they should include personal compressors as well so you can tweak it to your preference. Dumbasses can simply choose from pre-configured presets to "improve" the sound.

They do have them these days.
SOmeone in the manual of every modern stereo there's a way to set a 'dynamic range compressor' or some pseudnym.
My reciever from 1996-7(don't remember) has 3 different settings. I used to set it to the max and do the same on my DVD player so I could listen to Japanese DVDs while I slept without fight scenes or theme songs waking me up.
Whether or not it helped my Japanese(seemed to) it helped me sleep...

[TheGZeus]

I just never liked the lack of irony in Metallica. I like to have a little tongue-in-cheek humour in my music unless it's insane or creep for rare reasons(Crazy music, old folk music is often very dark, as are a few very christian-oriented[lyrically] bands I like. Not a christian myself).

[ary incorparated]

yet have to listen to your music,my sound card is deffect .

[Knuckles-chaotix]

megadrive kix ass over any US gibbersish.