Is It Me, or Does the Nintendo 64 SUCK?!

[j_factor]

Hold it right there, it may be just a option for the PS3, fair enough, but 360 games are based completely around online multiplayer in most cases, so little effort is put into the so called single player mode in 360 games, it might as well not have a single player mode at all(the horrible single player modes in many 360 games is legendary for crying out loud, that's how bad it is).

This post made me giggle. I mean, seriously? The only thing that's legendary is your inability to make a cogent argument.

[Zoltor]

I can't help but notice most of the games people are listing, aren't really 360 games, they're either multi platform or ported/remakes of games from older sysems.

Also I find it hilarious to see what some people dare to put on such a list, I'm pretty damn sure people know what games I'm hinting at, so we'll leave it at that(we talk about how much such games suck all the time as is).

The funny thing is, there are some good 360 games that aren't so focused on online multiplayer, but yet they aren't listed.

[MrMatthews]

So, given a choice between responding to your detractors or saying nothing at all, you chose that? And you're congratulating yourself on a point well-made, I suppose...

[Zoltor]

So, given a choice between responding to your detractors or saying nothing at all, you chose that? And you're congratulating yourself on a point well-made, I suppose...

What is there to respond to(people aren't even posting 360 games, accept for a couple, they're either multiplatform or remakes of non 360 game)?

[Splatterhouse5]

I can't help but notice most of the games people are listing, aren't really 360 games, they're either multi platform or ported/remakes of games from older sysems.

Also I find it hilarious to see what some people dare to put on such a list, I'm pretty damn sure people know what games I'm hinting at, so we'll leave it at that(we talk about how much such games suck all the time as is).

I'm sure you sound hilarious to anyone that actually owns a 360. I own over 40 games for the system (as well as a dozen downloaded games) and I haven't played more than a couple of them online. Whether they are multi-plat or older is irrelevent to the discussion. What is relevent to the discussion is that I didn't require an internet connection to enjoy them. Yes, that includes first party games too.

[Zoltor]

I'm sure you sound hilarious to anyone that actually owns a 360. I own over 40 games for the system (as well as a dozen downloaded games) and I haven't played more than a couple of them online. Whether they are multi-plat or older is irrelevent to the discussion. What is relevent to the discussion is that I didn't require an internet connection to enjoy them. Yes, that includes first party games too.

No, when the debate is on 360 games being way too focused on onliine, yes it must be exclusive or atleast 360/PC only. Ofcourse if It's not a real 360 game, it can't be too focused on online(for a few reasons).

Also people don't buy systems for multiplatform games. Lol so you like playing the Halo games offline... It's clear that you'll just say anything now, just to argue. Everyone I've seen talking about the campaign modes in the Halo games, says they're pretty crappy(understatement).

[TrekkiesUnite118]

Star Ocean 4 was 360 exclusive for at least a year or so. Same with Tales of Vesperia. The other games may also be on PS3, but since we are talking about both consoles here I fail to see why that matters. They are still good games on the 360 that do not require an internet connection to enjoy.

Here's the games I bought a 360 for:

Star Ocean 4 (At the time it was exclusive)
Street Fighter 4
Sonic Unleashed (360 version is better)
Resident Evil 5 (It came bundled with my Red 360).

Gee, it looks like I bought a 360 for multiplatform games. I wonder why I did that instead of getting a PS3 or not getting a new console period as Zoltor says people only buy consoles for exclusives. Could it possibly be because the 360 was cheaper at the time and came with 2 games free, One of which was a game I wanted the system for?

[Splatterhouse5]

No, when the debate is on 360 games being way too focused on onliine, yes it must be exclusive or atleast 360/PC only. Ofcourse if It's not a real 360 game, it can't be too focused on online(for a few reasons).

Also people don't buy systems for multiplatform games. Lol so you like playing the Halo games offline... It's clear that you'll just say anything now, just to argue. Everyone I've seen talking about the campaign modes in the Halo games, says they're pretty crappy(understatement).

now you just sound like a silly fanboy. First, you whine that a 360 is practically un-usable without an internet connection, and now Halo single player campaigns defines a 360 ownership? What if I told you that I've only played the first one, like a decade ago, on the original xbox, and it just so happens that it didn't offer online multiplayer? What if I told you that I bought a 360 to play Fable 2, Mass Effect, and Lost Odyssey - Games that thrive on their single player experiences. What if i told you that I've never played a single online match of a Gears of War game - Does it bother you that they just might be fun without taking them online?

Dude, don't act like you know what I play, or why I picked up a 360 in the first place. And you're multi-plat argument is borderline retarded - I can only enjoy first party exclusives on a system? A 360 game is any game I can play on the 360. I'd suggest you pick up some more first hand knowledge before acting like you have it. You're not talking to many noobs here.

[Zoltor]

Clearly people didn't see me use the word "most"(aka not all, but the majority).

[gamevet]

Clearly people didn't see me use the word "most"(aka not all, but the majority).

Yeah, we saw the word most. It still isn't even remotely close to reality. If you own a 360 or PS3, you'd realize that most of the games aren't centered around multiplayer.

[Splatterhouse5]

Clearly people didn't see me use the word "most"(aka not all, but the majority).

Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. I'd like to know what these "most games" are. Alan Wake? Banjo? Kameo? Viva Pinata? Fable? Hell, even Halo Wars, the FPS Halo games, and the Gears of Wars games offer campaigns full of content that don't require an internet connection. As a matter of fact, I have yet to play a 360 game that I couldn't enjoy without an internet connection.

As long as I've owned a 360, it's actually been more of an oddity to enjoy online features with friends.

[16-bit]

Its you, the N64's lows are higher than the SNES' lows, and its highs are higher too.

I forgot about the soundtrack to the Bomberman games on the N64, but I think part of the problem here is that I haven't played the system in a very long time, and I like the compositions of the SNES starfox better than 64.

Damn it I wish this system had actual homebrew games coming out for it...

[JCU]

You're hitting Zoltar levels of stupidity here. Commentary, deleted scenes and BD Live are just added features. They are not a requirement for watching the movie. Some people just watch the movie and have no need for the added features. The same with games. Just because a game has the option to take it online to go against other people, doesn't mean everyone buys a game to do that.

Do you think something like Halo is centered around a single player campaign? Perhaps Goldeneye? Surely you're not suggesting something different. The MP is not merely an addition any more. It's almost a requirement for gamers for these days. Wake up. What do you think sells Halo, COD, GT, FMS, etc..,? MP is not the trivial concern you make it out to be.

This has nothing to do with the choice of console you'd have, if you only had the choice taking one with you. I honestly don't believe you have owned or played a PS3, or 360. It's no different than any other console, unless you choose to take advantage of the perks that come with using the online content.

Then it pleases me even more to express to you how meaningless I find your belief.

I can still play my old Xbox, even though it doesn't have any online availability anymore. Does that mean that Panzer Dragoon Orta is no good now?

My focus has been on current generation consoles only. You mention the Xbox. Someone else mentioned the Genesis but I haven't concerned myself with that path.

That's the point. You don't need an internet connection to enjoy gaming on a 360 or PS3.

I won't agree with your opinion but unlike you, I'll respect a difference in opinion. You seem to have trouble coming to grips though.

For MY needs (hence my opinion of what I'd take in a bunker) it wouldn't be the system that only offers me complete functionality with internet access. What I want to play is unachievable if I'm not connected.

Like I said earlier, with my PS3, I have the option of playing Playstation, PS2 or PS3 games. I would have thousands of games to choose from, even if only 85% of my PS3 games functioned properly without the internet.

Nostalgia is nice and all but I tend to spend more of my time in the now. Backwards compatibility is a strength (why else would it be included on all three) but not a necessity for me. Picking up "ALTTP" or Medievil is quite fun but not a large percentage of my gaming. I'm going to stick with the system that offers me the greatest ease of play.

[Thenewguy]

I forgot about the soundtrack to the Bomberman games on the N64, but I think part of the problem here is that I haven't played the system in a very long time.

Here's some I like off the top of my head.

I like the compositions of the SNES starfox better than 64.

I think Starfox had more memorable music than Starfox 64 from what I can recall, its been quite a while since I've played both to be honest.

[TailsAlone]

I can't imagine anyone still playing GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, or even Mario Party, Mario Kart 64 and Super Smash Bros. The latter three have had better installments on later consoles and the FPS games are horribly outdated by todays standards. Even though back then, these games were pretty much the biggest system sellers.

I have to differ with you on that one. I have friends who are still playing all of those games (minus Perfect Dark). GoldenEye because it's one of the best shooters ever made to this day, especially in multiplayer, and the old Mario games because they're less gimmicky and closer to the roots of the franchise. In particular, I would play one you didn't mention--Mario 64--over most 3D platformers that are out today.

It helped that in its day the N64 had by far the best wrestling games out there, and those were just what I was looking for...but it can't be faulted on racers or platformers either. Say what you will about early 3D, the 64 pulled it off much better than the PS1. It was also a much sturdier and more durable system, with cartridges that could do almost anything the PS1 could and without the load times. Let's be honest, console games on disc were a gesture on Sega and Sony's part to capture the "future" of gaming, and a risky one too. They never really paid off until GD-ROM and DVD came along years later. In hindsight, all Sony had on Nintendo was marketing, more must-have titles and a better controller. I would still buy another N64 now, and the only reason I have any PSX games is because the PS2 supports them. Just my two cents...

As for the GC and Xbox...GC was a great but overlooked system, perhaps the last "pure" gaming console ever made. And after you played its few good exclusive titles, the Xbox was an expensive footrest.