8 of the Most Awful Paid DLC in Videogame History

[Olls]

Do you even know what e-sports is, because no AO (or any other MMO) is hosted there. I swear, arguing with you is like trying to talk sense into a chimp.
Stop bringing up random shit.

[TheSonicRetard]

So because there is ONE niche MMO which makes its claim to fame in extensive PvP, MMOs are suddenly "insanely competitive."

Ok then.

[Zoltor]

And has nothing to do with Battlefield 3 DLC.

Go back and read the debate, I said that cheat is like if you were to give people maxe leveld char in a RPG via DLC, and one of you guys dared to generalize the genre by saying, but RPGs aren't competitive, so there you have it.

No game should have bypasses to give you everything upfront.

Sonic: I never played it, but from what I've heard, StarCraft(a MMO, it claims to be a RTS, but even then, that would make it a MMORTS, thus still a MMO) was the biggest esports game in existance for the longest time, and is believed by most to be the real start/origins of esports.

[TheSonicRetard]

Extrapolating a single MMO to represent an entire genre is the epitome of generalization.

[Olls]

Show us what league hosts MMO competitive pvp to prove your point, or move on. Until then, you are wrong.

[TheSonicRetard]

Show us what league hosts MMO competitive pvp to prove your point, or move on. Until then, you are wrong.

It's obvious he doesn't know what e-sports are and is just going to reply with some korean tournament because he doesn't understand your question. Why bother?

[gamevet]

Go back and read the debate, I said that cheat is like if you were to give people maxe leveld char in a RPG via DLC, and one of you guys dared to generalize the genre by saying, but RPGs aren't competitive, so there you have it.

No game should have bypasses to give you everything upfront.

Nobody is winning money by upgrading in Battlefield 3. Even if your weapons are on an even level, map knowledge and the ability to use mobile units plays into how well you fair in the battlefield.

[Zoltor]

Show us what league hosts MMO competitive pvp to prove your point, or move on. Until then, you are wrong.

You only need a legue system, in games that have team based tournes(this is common in FPS), while MMOs have very advanced team mechanics, their esports based matches are usually done elimination style using 1v1 matches(although there are a couple of exceptions).

The participants for the bigger tournies are just simply chosen from the best ranked players, there's no need for a League.

True, but like I said, it floods the games with crappy players, that can influance(over inflate) the usual ranking system(is it just me or do FPS have the worst ranking systems).

[Olls]

Sonic: I never played it, but from what I've heard, StarCraft(a MMO, it claims to be a RTS, but even then, that would make it a MMORTS, thus still a MMO) was the biggest esports game in existance for the longest time, and is believed by most to be the real start/origins of esports.

STARCRAFT an MMO? Really? Nobody is this stupid.



Please stop, you're just making yourself look even more ridiculous.

[Daria]

The horse armor thing wasn't entirely Bethesda's fault (well ok, yes it was but hear me out), they wanted to release it as free DLC but Microsoft rejected it on the grounds that all DLC had to be paid for. I know that's no longer the case but Horse Armor was an early DLC release. They had released an apology or something on their website at the time. I don't remember the exact details, but that was the gist of it.

[Zoltor]

The horse armor thing wasn't entirely Bethesda's fault (well ok, yes it was but hear me out), they wanted to release it as free DLC but Microsoft rejected it on the grounds that all DLC had to be paid for. I know that's no longer the case but Horse Armor was an early DLC release. They had released an apology or something on their website at the time. I don't remember the exact details, but that was the gist of it.

Omg I remember hearing about that BS, haven't heard any complaints for a long time now though, so MS dropped that dumb rule then(that would explain things)?

[MrMatthews]

Hello, Internet. My name is Zoltor. Please accept, with my compliments, the following fact I've just fabricated.

StarCraft(a MMO, it claims to be a RTS, but even then, that would make it a MMORTS, thus still a MMO)

[Tanegashima]

arguing with you is like trying to talk sense into a chimp.
Stop bringing up random shit.

Whoa whoa whoa, slow down there turbo

[Obviously]

I believe second life outdoes them all. You buy a virtual space with virtual items, virtual shops and just about everything that's available there.

http://lindenlab.com/

*edit*

Actually, it's Entropia Universe, but Second Life is very simular.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverch...tual-property/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropia_Universe

I don't agree. As dumb as Second Life ultimately is it can be a pretty fun virtual playground or roleplaying environment. Even the dress-up-doll aspect has an appeal to some people. It's also hard to compare to video game DLC since its objectives are different and everything is user generated. (But yeah, the virtual real-estate thing is the stupidest crap ever.)

Anyway I'm pretty much against all "Pay to Win!" DLC. It's one of the reasons I can't take MMO's seriously. What's the point of a game where the entire focus is to grow your character's ability if you can buy all of the best crap or at least passable endgame crap right from the beginning? There's no sense of accomplishment. It's boring. You could say, "just don't buy any DLC then" but in a multiplayer game like an MMO everybody's overpowered characters still effect your playing of the game unless you want to be anti-social.

If you're going to make your endgame really good and worth playing that's one thing, but then why have a build up to the endgame at all if you can pay to skip to it? Why not make a game that's all endgame (something I expect to see more and more of in MMO games soon)? If that's the focus of the game then it's really quite a racket that you've created this time-wasting part that players can just pay to remove. Literally people are paying to remove a part of the game. This basically says to me that this part of the game was unnecessary from the start and shouldn't even be there.

But then that's the problem with most recent MMOs with endgames that actually suck. They aren't terribly compelling which means once a player experiences it all as quickly as possible, we see sharp declines in the populations of these games. My point is if you're going to make ways for people to pay money to access all of the content in a game faster, you better make damn sure your game is fun and has a lot of value in it to keep a person playing or they're going to lose interest really fast.

Unfortunately this creates the problem of what IS acceptable DLC? How do you make people pay real money for a change of virtual clothes or something else that doesn't give you an unfair advantage? I don't know if I have an answer for that.

[Phantar]

Personally I think this list is better... http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-10-m...ged-money-for/. It's a tad longer and, in my opinion, has a few better examples... It also predates the dorkly-list by about half a year. Both lists even share (coincidentally?... the phrasing seems awfully familiar in places) three elements, though in different order...