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Thread: Advantages of SNES hardware vs. Genesis hardware

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    Honestly I'd say the Genesis has just as many good platformers as the SNES. The only thing it's really missing is some kind of response to Metroid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118 View Post
    Honestly I'd say the Genesis has just as many good platformers as the SNES. The only thing it's really missing is some kind of response to Metroid.
    The Mega Drive got the better number of good platform games for sure , but imo Mario IV and Super Metroid are total platform perfection . Imo the only game that's ever came close to Mario IV perfect gameplay and level design is Exhumed on the Saturn ; Both games are for me, examples for level design utter perfection
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118 View Post
    Honestly I'd say the Genesis has just as many good platformers as the SNES. The only thing it's really missing is some kind of response to Metroid.
    Monster World IV > Super Metroid
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    everyone knows nintendo is far way cooler than sega just face it nintendo has more better games and originals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    The Mega Drive got the better number of good platform games for sure , but imo Mario IV and Super Metroid are total platform perfection . Imo the only game that's ever came close to Mario IV perfect gameplay and level design is Exhumed on the Saturn ; Both games are for me, examples for level design utter perfection
    Super Mario World is dull and boring. The Sonic games beat it in every category. The levels are simple, flat, straight lines with little to no exploration. I've never once completed the game simply because I've gotten bored with it after the first castle.

    Here's your average Sonic Level:



    And here's your average SMW level:



    There's no comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118 View Post
    Super Mario World is dull and boring. The Sonic games beat it in every category. The levels are simple, flat, straight lines with little to no exploration. I've never once completed the game simply because I've gotten bored with it after the first castle.
    I'm Sorry Sonic is simple and easy with zero depth and all show, much like Donkey Kong on the Snes take away the graphics and they're not up to much . Castle Of Illusion and Quackshot are much much better platform games and even there aren't a patch on Mario IV or Yoshi Story imo

    Monster World IV > Super Metroid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    Are these the same ' kids' that forget that the Mega Drive came out after the PC-Eng, that the Master System came out way after the NES, The DC after the N64 or the XBox way after the PS2 yet all those consoles seem to be compared with each other ' even on here some times .
    "The SNES has way nicer colours and sound. Why did Sega release a console with such mediocre hardware?"


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    Who cares about numbers ? . I care far more about quality and on that score the Mega CD is the system to own for RPG's and racers imo
    Mega-CD racers? show me

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    Are those your fav genre's ? To me while the Snes will never compare to the Mega Drive for shooters (well bar 3D shooter) and sports games , The Mega Drive will never compare to the Snes for Platform games or Adventure games . Mario IV, Castlevania, and Super Metroid, Legend of the Mystical Ninja were perfection in my eye's
    Adventure games, okay thats a Genesis weak spot, but for platformers I'd say they're tied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    I'm Sorry Sonic is simple and easy with zero depth and all show, much like Donkey Kong on the Snes take away the graphics and they're not up to much . Castle Of Illusion and Quackshot are much much better platform games and even there aren't a patch on Mario IV or Yoshi Story imo
    Did you even look at the levels I showed you? The Mario level is more all show with no depth. It's just one single path with no exploration. Sonic levels are huge by comparison with tons of routes to explore and interesting obstacles to figure out with much more unique and interesting boss battles.

    Mario World can be beaten in about 10 minutes for crying out loud:



    That's not tool assisted, it's in real time on a real SNES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azonicrider View Post
    Mega-CD racers? show me
    Barone proved here that Formula 1 Beyond the Limit is an accurate F1 sim for the year and time it represents. Then there is Jaguar XJ220, which is quite good and lengthy. I prefer the more Arcade Road Blasters approach of Batman Returns, and BC Racers is best on Sega CD. Road Rash CD isn't faster than the Genesis games, but accurately represents the tracks from the 3DO, Saturn and PS1 game and plays quite well. Adventures of Batman & Robin is good for a solid self flogging.

    Quote Originally Posted by azonicrider View Post
    Adventure games, okay thats a Genesis weak spot, but for platformers I'd say they're tied.

    Light Crusader, Crusader of Centy, Beyond Oasis, and Land Stalker are outside keying your car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    Light Crusader, Crusader of Centy, Beyond Oasis, and Land Stalker are outside keying your car.
    King Colossus too, the Ecco games, the Monster World games, and Popful Mail if we count the Sega CD too.

    I agree the SNES beats the genesis when it comes to adventure/action rpg games (super metroid is one of the most perfect games ever made), but calling it a weak spot? Far from it, the genesis is pretty strong at them actually, much better than at regular RPGs.
    Last edited by Kamahl; 10-30-2013 at 05:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118 View Post
    Honestly I'd say the Genesis has just as many good platformers as the SNES. The only thing it's really missing is some kind of response to Metroid.
    one of the main homebrew groups should make a Metroidvania

    There are actually plenty of RPGs, but there really isn't an analog for metroid.

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    I was absolutely dieing for a Genesis version of Zillion back in the day. Screw trends and dead licenses, Zillion is awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Tiger View Post
    Monster World IV > Super Metroid
    Yes, I totally agree with this! If Monster World IV had received a proper US release, SNES fans would lose a bragging point with Super Metroid; Monster World IV is a fantastic action/adventure/RPG game with a deeply-rooted franchise history. Not knocking Super Metroid, in fact knocking SOA for not localizing this wonderful 10/10 title.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118 View Post
    Super Mario World is dull and boring. The Sonic games beat it in every category. The levels are simple, flat, straight lines with little to no exploration. I've never once completed the game simply because I've gotten bored with it after the first castle.
    Hit the nail right on the head. I used to think Super Mario games utilized a random level map generator and the game was to see how long I could play it before quitting of boredom. I used to really enjoy watching my cousin play Super Mario World though.

    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    Light Crusader, Crusader of Centy, Beyond Oasis, and Land Stalker are outside keying your car.
    I will never get tired of saying how much I treasure Crusader of Centy; only fault in it is it's limited release and consequently exponentially increasing price tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    Barone proved here that Formula 1 Beyond the Limit is an accurate F1 sim for the year and time it represents. Then there is Jaguar XJ220, which is quite good and lengthy. I prefer the more Arcade Road Blasters approach of Batman Returns, and BC Racers is best on Sega CD. Road Rash CD isn't faster than the Genesis games, but accurately represents the tracks from the 3DO, Saturn and PS1 game and plays quite well. Adventures of Batman & Robin is good for a solid self flogging.




    Light Crusader, Crusader of Centy, Beyond Oasis, and Land Stalker are outside keying your car.
    I ride a Moped

    I think you just don't really play adventure/RPGs on the Genesis, yes theres some fun ones, but theres better consoles for those games. Saturn.

    Chakan should be considered the closest answer to Super Metroid IMO.
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    Have you actually played that game ? I mean it looks nice on screenshots and maybe on YT but that's about it. The game is plagued with tons of problems that make it a chore to play - which is too bad because I'd really prefer this game to be fun as I really love the concept and art design.
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    Then we set about developing killer games.

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    Yes its hard as balls, but I got strange taste. I think Zelda II is the best Zelda game.

    Its a polarizing game.
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