Did the Wii U launch fall flat on its face?

[Phantar]

If you divide 29.9 billion yen total in estimate number you'd get this:
29900000000 Japanese yen = 365569360.0000 US dollars

You would get millions by using fractions for those figures. But remember, Yen is divided not summed.

Alright, I'm convinced: We have a True successor to RegalSin and Zoltor at our hands here, People!

[sheath]

The Yen value is 20% higher than what it used to be so 10,000 yen is now $125.

You're rounding it out by small fractions with your conversions. If you divide 29.9 billion yen total in estimate number you'd get this:
29900000000 Japanese yen = 365569360.0000 US dollars

You would get millions by using fractions for those figures. But remember, Yen is divided not summed.

Right, so let's say that you are right and 10,000 yen is $125, that means that 1000 yen is $12.50. So, let's just round up to 30,000,000,000 yen divided by 1,000 equals 30,000,000 multiplied by $12.5 equals $375,000,000, or $375 million.

Or you could just use the conversion tool I linked to which has historical conversion rates.

[MrSega]

If there are copies of the Wii U console available on store shelves with minimal fuss, especially this time of year, I'd say it's not doing too well...

It's fairly easy to find in most retail outlets. I thought Nintendo boasted that 500,000 units were shipped last week, but only sold 400,000 of those?

I seem to recall Wii being hard to find & there being a mad demand for them. I also remember Dreamcast being in short supply when it launched. I couldn't get one until 2 months after it launched.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

The Wii launch was a phenomenon. No console had a launch like it before, and it's unlikely we will see one like it again any time soon. The Wii U isn't failing because it's not having an identical phenomenon like the Wii. It's numbers are actually very good for it's first week. Just because you can find a few here and there doesn't mean it's not selling. And the Dreamcast had some shortages but not to the level the Wii had, I remember seeing Dreamcasts in stores where I lived when it came out. It wasn't that hard to find one.

Quit trying to spin sales data to support your ridiculous claims.

[Cornholio857]

Alright, I'm convinced: We have a True successor to RegalSin and Zoltor at our hands here, People!

I agree.

[gamevet]

Alright, I'm convinced: We have a True successor to RegalSin and Zoltor at our hands here, People!

Or maybe they are all the same person......hmmm?

[Drakon]

I remember regalsin being a lot worse. But smeh.

[Armoured Priest]

This is purely anectodal, but the only other console besides the Wii that I recall people having trouble getting 6 months after its release was the PS2 (and I 'm going back to the Sega Genesis). Starting with the Genesis, and going until Wii (skipping 360) every system I purchased I did so within 6 months of its release. Pretty much every other console I can think of (other then Wii and PS2, if you waited a couple weeks you could get one). Not Completely selling-out is not a failure. Selling less then say 50% could be construed as a bad launch, though. This is, of course, ignoring the possibility of sales picking up after awesome games (whatever those might be) are released.

[Thunderblaze16]

It's fairly easy to find in most retail outlets. I thought Nintendo boasted that 500,000 units were shipped last week, but only sold 400,000 of those?

I seem to recall Wii being hard to find & there being a mad demand for them. I also remember Dreamcast being in short supply when it launched. I couldn't get one until 2 months after it launched.

Bro do you even lift?

[MrSega]

Right, so let's say that you are right and 10,000 yen is $125, that means that 1000 yen is $12.50. So, let's just round up to 30,000,000,000 yen divided by 1,000 equals 30,000,000 multiplied by $12.5 equals $375,000,000, or $375 million.

Or you could just use the conversion tool I linked to which has historical conversion rates.

Also capital per share. SegaSammy has 20,000 shares with 970,000 yen per share. Which is $11,000 per share.

That times 20,000= $200 Million in shares which in shares fraction sum totals 29.9 billion yen the number is higher when its by round number estimation.

SEGASammy has also earned an average of $5 billion in annual revenue since 2009 & is maintaining a $5.8.billion market cap according to gamefaqs and other sites like Bloomberg.


SEGASammy also has clotted the bleeding. They've went from $800 million in Operating Losses in 2005-2007, to $500 million in 2008, to $200 million in 2009-2011, all the down to just $88 million.

You notice, the less packaged games they've released the more their Operating Losses thankfully decreased.

Bottom line: Unlike 12 years ago, SEGA is a profitable company in Japan. And is in a very healthy financial state to sell home consumer products at low cost with the help of investing venture capital in differen global business markets, hence ORBI.

"To The City of Rome and the World".

[Cornholio857]

"To The City of Rome and the World".

That would be a great marketing slogan for Sega-ORBI's World of Yogurt line.

[MrSega]

This is purely anectodal, but the only other console besides the Wii that I recall people having trouble getting 6 months after its release was the PS2 (and I 'm going back to the Sega Genesis). Starting with the Genesis, and going until Wii (skipping 360) every system I purchased I did so within 6 months of its release. Pretty much every other console I can think of (other then Wii and PS2, if you waited a couple weeks you could get one). Not Completely selling-out is not a failure. Selling less then say 50% could be construed as a bad launch, though. This is, of course, ignoring the possibility of sales picking up after awesome games (whatever those might be) are released.

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PS2 had massive hype and word of mouth.

They were originally were going ship 1 million of them but ended up cutting it in half.

It was in very short supply up until March 2001.

[Armoured Priest]

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PS2 had massive hype and word of mouth.

They were originally were going ship 1 million of them but ended up cutting it in half.

It was in very short supply up until March 2001.

That was my point. That's why the Wii was also in short supply. nintendo hyped the hell out of it. None of the other consoles had that kind of hype machine overdrive in operation, and as such a few weeks later from their release you could get an XBox, or a PS3, or even a PS1, or even a Dreamcast (if you looked hard enough).

The PS2 and Wii launches were very successful. However, being less successful doesn't mean you failed (I generally feel that if profit was made, or at least making a decent dent in your business loans for your new venture, a case can be made for success). It why I don't consider the PSP to have failed, it just wasn't as successful as the DS. 50 million+ units sold is nothing to scoff at, especially in light of Nintendo's dominence in the hand-held arena.

[Cross]

Even if Sega has the money to make a new system I don't think it would be a smart move to jump in right now. Its not a matter of having IPs for games, Sega is loaded with IPs, but its people who have been with MS/sony for years and are in love with their GS, even tho it does nothing. Sega would have to come up with something to try and draw them over the new system and away from the others.

[Barone]

I'm taking notes of these posts from people who believe Sega can/will/should release a new console in the next gen... I'm thinking about sending a report to National Institute on Drug Abuse (http://www.drugabuse.gov/) 'cause this seems to be an unknown symptom of drug addiction and/or mental illness, and I'm really worried about these people.