The Sega Orbi Conspiracy Thread (for use with MrSega only)

[Armoured Priest]

It comes with an app to turn water into wine, a reindeer flight planner, and a legion of elves for tech support... but they only work 1 day a year.

Actually, I think the tech support works 364 days a year...one of its manufacturers only works one day a year ;p

[Tripredacus]

Actually Windows 8 laptops with Power i7 and built in GeForce 600 GPUs start at almost $2,000.

Again, GTX has nothing to do with the topic. Also "Mobile GTX" makes little sense. Nvidia only repackages GT for its Tegra line. And they also ONLY sell GT GPUs in the OEM Laptop market.

Nobody was arguing about anything. I pointed out on how uncommon mid range Notebooks using the 600 series GTs for under $1500 are.

Well now, here is something I know about. While you may be able to find notebooks with those prices, I would consider those to be the uncommon ones.

Also, Why do you say Mobile GTX doesn't make sense? They are available you know. Clevo makes one with a GTX670m that sells for about $1300 USD.

Anyways, this Sega Note PC looks identical (and has identical spec options) as the Clevo W150ERQ.
http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/...?productid=387

Using currency conversion, the prices of the 4 options match up to the prices of that notebook too. I am not seeing any markup in the price.

[16-bit]

Right, the GTX has no relevance outside of your astronomical pricing suggestion.

The GTX line has some cheaper cards, the 650's only 100$ and actually works incredibly well from what I've seen, almost as good as the 460 I bought which was more than double the price when I bought it. I think it uses much less power too.

[MrSega]

Well now, here is something I know about. While you may be able to find notebooks with those prices, I would consider those to be the uncommon ones.

Also, Why do you say Mobile GTX doesn't make sense? They are available you know. Clevo makes one with a GTX670m that sells for about $1300 USD.

Anyways, this Sega Note PC looks identical (and has identical spec options) as the Clevo W150ERQ.
http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/...?productid=387

Using currency conversion, the prices of the 4 options match up to the prices of that notebook too. I am not seeing any markup in the price.

Clevo is a Taiwanese based Hong Kong Outsource Computer manufacturer. If a Laptop patent from SEGA or Enterbrain(Enterbrain's website states that the Line won't hit retail in Japan until early June) shows up soon, it wouldn't surprise me if Clevo is used as a reference. SEGA very often always refers to a Taiwanese or Hong Kong company when ever they issue electronic hardware patents. The "Kids Pad" name actually referenced the MSI "KidPad" tablet from 2011 and the September 11,2012 LCD Touch Screen patent had several references to a PDA that was sold in Taiwan during 2004.


http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/about/overview.asp

As for "Mobile GTX", I was referring to the fact that I've never seen or heard Nvidia ever license or downgrade its GTX line for mobile chips and mobile line devices. Normally its always been Tegra as only using GT. Are you referring to an actual notebook only GTX GPU?

[Tripredacus]

Clevo is a Taiwanese based Hong Kong Outsource Computer manufacturer.

http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/about/overview.asp

As for "Mobile GTX", I was referring to the fact that I've never seen or heard Nvidia ever license or downgrade its GTX line for mobile chips and mobile line devices. Normally its always been Tegra as only using GT. Are you referring to an actual notebook only GTX GPU?

I know who Clevo is.
I was thinking of emailing them today about this, but maybe I think I will email them tomorrow and just not tell you their response. Either way, the notebook in the photos on the site ARE of a reskinned W150ERQ. The term is called private labelling.

Anyways, I can confirm that Clevo sells at least one current model notebook with a GTX mobil GPU, and I suspect if I look at other ODMs I can find more examples but it really isn't worth my time.

Regarding MSI, I can't find any indication that the "Kid Pad" was actually released. Your assumption that Sega purposely filed a trademark similar to the naming of a competing product is ridiculous. It may be that exact reason why Sega withdrew the claim, but that is likely not something worth hunting down either.

I can understand why you may be trying to figure out everything with what information you find, however your inability to do actual research is troubling. Not to mention the fact that you refuse to back down from an argument that you can't possibly win because you ignore the people who know things you don't. If you had kept an open mind about what the Orbi might be, instead of shoving trademark copypasta and your own thoughts down everyone's throat, maybe you wouldn't be seen as a joke and banned everywhere.

[stu]

I know who Clevo is.
I was thinking of emailing them today about this, but maybe I think I will email them tomorrow and just not tell you their response. Either way, the notebook in the photos on the site ARE of a reskinned W150ERQ. The term is called private labelling.

Anyways, I can confirm that Clevo sells at least one current model notebook with a GTX mobil GPU, and I suspect if I look at other ODMs I can find more examples but it really isn't worth my time.

Regarding MSI, I can't find any indication that the "Kid Pad" was actually released. Your assumption that Sega purposely filed a trademark similar to the naming of a competing product is ridiculous. It may be that exact reason why Sega withdrew the claim, but that is likely not something worth hunting down either.

I can understand why you may be trying to figure out everything with what information you find, however your inability to do actual research is troubling. Not to mention the fact that you refuse to back down from an argument that you can't possibly win because you ignore the people who know things you don't. If you had kept an open mind about what the Orbi might be, instead of shoving trademark copypasta and your own thoughts down everyone's throat, maybe you wouldn't be seen as a joke and banned everywhere.

AMEN. Someone rep this post please.

[gamevet]

The GTX line has some cheaper cards, the 650's only 100$ and actually works incredibly well from what I've seen, almost as good as the 460 I bought which was more than double the price when I bought it. I think it uses much less power too.

Yes, the 600 series cards use a lot less power. You can run 2 GTX 670s in sli with a 700 watt power supply. Running 2 GTX 480s in sli would require a 1000 watt power supply.

The 650m is a lot less powerful than the desktop's GTX 650. I don't even know why they use the same name, when the 650m is slightly more powerful than the GTX 450. In other words, it's a shite card.

[MrSega]

I know who Clevo is.
I was thinking of emailing them today about this, but maybe I think I will email them tomorrow and just not tell you their response. Either way, the notebook in the photos on the site ARE of a reskinned W150ERQ. The term is called private labelling.

Anyways, I can confirm that Clevo sells at least one current model notebook with a GTX mobil GPU, and I suspect if I look at other ODMs I can find more examples but it really isn't worth my time.

Regarding MSI, I can't find any indication that the "Kid Pad" was actually released. Your assumption that Sega purposely filed a trademark similar to the naming of a competing product is ridiculous. It may be that exact reason why Sega withdrew the claim, but that is likely not something worth hunting down either.

I can understand why you may be trying to figure out everything with what information you find, however your inability to do actual research is troubling. Not to mention the fact that you refuse to back down from an argument that you can't possibly win because you ignore the people who know things you don't. If you had kept an open mind about what the Orbi might be, instead of shoving trademark copypasta and your own thoughts down everyone's throat, maybe you wouldn't be seen as a joke and banned everywhere.

The "MSI Kid Pad" device was never trademarked. It appears as a reference in the Suspension letter by the US Gov Trademark office refusing registration of the mark dated January 5,2012. The document states that the name has been refused and here's actual qoutes from the Letter:

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer...20120105140916

REFUSAL(S)/REQUIREMENT(S) CONTINUED AND MAINTAINED: The following refusal(s)/requirement(s) is/are continued and maintained:

PROPOSED MARK IS MERELY DESCRIPTIVE OF THE GOODS

Registration is refused because the applied-for mark merely describes a feature of applicant’s goods.

The US Trademark Courts are informing SEGA that the name is simply too vague and therefore not marketable. Suspension means SEGA is STILL planning on using the Goods and Services and has filed them on a different application for a different brand.


And I don't ignore people. I ignore those who assume without actual research. They don't bother to actually read the whole document. They accuse me of making up falsified info WITHOUT having read the info themselves or caring because they just told themselves anything SEGA non gaming related is a lie.Just taking it for face value as "ORBI is a fake console, the trademark thing is fake, la,la,la,!) And some of them come up with incredulous conclusions about it (Trekkies thinking its only a theme park is just taking a random,doubtless shot-in-the-dark.) What I state about ORBI is WHAT the Trademark specifically states it is. Again, this is the most expensive,longest most discrete Trademark brand even to be filed by Kabushiki Kaisha Sega in its entire 60 year history. If people would just STOP assuming ANYTHING SEGA speculation-wise or any new brand they file as being another on-again,off-again Dreamcast 2 rumor, they'd begin to understand me and not think I'm some sort of troll who (pulls all of this ORBI stuff out-of-my ass). I want people to stop labeling me. That's what lies in a big misunderstanding.

And I'm only banned on Sega Forums. The reason being is because of speculation of ANY kind SEGA related is STRICTLY forbidden.

People HATE non Software SEGA speculation. Because they've grown to only care about the type of IPs SEGA puts out, It's not just the Sonic fans, is those who bitch about Yakuza 5 being localized, Whine about Shenmue III, VC knowing very well how expensive and costly it would be to localize these games and how pretty much all of these titles sold poorly outside of Japan.

Too me, anyone who hates the idea of SEGA doing anything other than software publishing, is NOT a true SEGA fan. It feels like all they do is box in SEGA and treat them like their this little tiny,worthless game publisher. It annoys me alot. To be a true SEGA fan, you have to believe they are capable of anything and CARE whenever they're doing great financially.

[Occutell]

Ah I love the smell of Logical fallacies in the afternoon.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

People don't hate Sega Hardware speculation. They hate the garbage you spew to be specific. You say people don't read the documents you post. Well I did read them and I don't come to the same conclusions you do. In fact no one else comes to your conclusions either. The reason is because you are only focusing on one or two specific points in these documents, where as others look at them as a whole.

The Orbi Patent does not point to a console in my honest opinion. The closest thing it points to is an amusement center of some kind.

And you were banned from the Sega forums because you were consistently causing problems. You made up rumors and posted them as fact then flew into anyone who said they weren't true. The Mods got tired of it. All Clumsy asked for were sources, which you failed to provide.

And for some more fun here's some of your previous predictions that also didn't come true:

SEGA has not trademarked another Sonic game yet. fI they do, it may likely be another "Sonic Adventure" for thier new rumored console which is based of the Ringedge board.

That's not to say SEGA won't release another Sonic and The Secret Rings game for Wii.

I guess Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations don't count.

There is indeed a PlaySega streaming device based on RingWide hardware that set to be unveiled very soon that will compete against the Wii.

It will sell for $150 and uses the Radeon 2600HD Pro GPU (which is basically simluar to Xbox 360's Xenos.)

Is that still coming out?

First of all, there is NO such thing as PS4 or Playstation 4. Second of all Apple is planning a handheld not a console. They currently have no plans for a home console since they did actaully try one in the latter 1990s called "Pippin".

We can't rule out the Ring Edge. We just can't.

I guess we will just have to wait until next week to see if there is no such thing as a Playstation 4.

[Knuckle Duster]

And I don't ignore people. I ignore those who assume without actual research. They don't bother to actually read the whole document. They accuse me of making up falsified info WITHOUT having read the info themselves or caring because they just told themselves anything SEGA non gaming related is a lie.Just taking it for face value as "ORBI is a fake console, the trademark thing is fake, la,la,la,!) And some of them come up with incredulous conclusions about it (Trekkies thinking its only a theme park is just taking a random,doubtless shot-in-the-dark.) What I state about ORBI is WHAT the Trademark specifically states it is. Again, this is the most expensive,longest most discrete Trademark brand even to be filed by Kabushiki Kaisha Sega in its entire 60 year history. If people would just STOP assuming ANYTHING SEGA speculation-wise or any new brand they file as being another on-again,off-again Dreamcast 2 rumor, they'd begin to understand me and not think I'm some sort of troll who (pulls all of this ORBI stuff out-of-my ass). I want people to stop labeling me. That's what lies in a big misunderstanding.

And I'm only banned on Sega Forums. The reason being is because of speculation of ANY kind SEGA related is STRICTLY forbidden.

People HATE non Software SEGA speculation. Because they've grown to only care about the type of IPs SEGA puts out, It's not just the Sonic fans, is those who bitch about Yakuza 5 being localized, Whine about Shenmue III, VC knowing very well how expensive and costly it would be to localize these games and how pretty much all of these titles sold poorly outside of Japan.

Too me, anyone who hates the idea of SEGA doing anything other than software publishing, is NOT a true SEGA fan. It feels like all they do is box in SEGA and treat them like their this little tiny,worthless game publisher. It annoys me alot. To be a true SEGA fan, you have to believe they are capable of anything and CARE whenever they're doing great financially.

You draw absurd conclusions from vague documents. You feel misunderstood and estranged because you somehow think this is any different from a Dreamcast 2 rumor.

You assume people are against Sega hardware, when the reality is, it's one of the big unreasonable demands you're complaining about here. Nobody is denying that there's a legion of idiots dedicated to shitting on Sega at every opportunity with: "OMG I HATE YOU, RELEASE SHENMUE 3 OR JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY!" ... But to think hardware would sell? To think that Sega has leverage over Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo in the hardware market these days? It would be a gamble and there's no money in it. Google and Apple would KILL them in tablet space, and could easily jump into gaming with TV devices. True speculation should have a foundation of risk assessment so it's not immediately disregarded as impractical. Your conclusions have all panned out wrong in the past, and your current take on the situation is full of ridiculous logistical holes.

To be a true Sega fan you have to believe they are capable of anything? Delusional fanboyism.

[evildragon]

This shit...........just won't end!

[Knuckle Duster]

This shit...........just won't end!

It will climax in a week when the PS4 is shown, and either his bullshit won't add up, or it will be given credibility.


Fanboyism at it's worst though. Speculation without solid foundation, too much disregard for common sense, and ridiculing misconceptions against other fans.

[The Coop]

This shit...........just won't end!

Sounds like you need...

[MrSega]

It will climax in a week when the PS4 is shown, and either his bullshit won't add up, or it will be given credibility.


Fanboyism at it's worst though. Speculation without solid foundation, too much disregard for common sense, and ridiculing misconceptions against other fans.

PS NEAR has NOTHING to do with ORBI. Nothing. Nada. "Orbis" and "ORBI" are two different things.

That's your problem right there. Your getting confused and so are the others.


SEGASammy will announce the rebranding of its company when they are ready. You are the reason why they won't discuss ORBI Enterprises" right now. SEGA knows that the PS NEAR unveiling must come first because they know people like you automatically get both Orbis and ORBI mixed up.

And it isn't fanboyism. I wouldn't be talking about ORBI, if SEGA NEVER FILED THE TRADEMARK in the first place.

My conclusions are based on what it says, it's just too bad you don't care to read it yourself.


SEGA will announce it soon. Your deluding yourself that that Orbi is made up. It's not.