The Sega Orbi Conspiracy Thread (for use with MrSega only)

[TrekkiesUnite118]

We didn't get them confused at all. You just started spouting nonsense on the matter saying Orbis (pay attention, I didn't say Orbi) wasn't the code name for Sony's next system and that it was Thebes and PS near instead. And then you went on to ignore the mounds of evidence that it is in fact Orbis.

And we didn't say Orbi was made up either, we simply don't come to the same conclusion as you do.

[Knuckle Duster]

PS NEAR has NOTHING to do with ORBI. Nothing. Nada. "Orbis" and "ORBI" are two different things.

That's your problem right there. Your getting confused and so are the others.

No, we're all on the same page, seeing you spew ridiculous conclusions based on patent office documentation.
The Orbis argument being Thebes/Near/Whatever will pan out in less than a week. Giving us a solid conclusion on to most of your speculation.

SEGASammy will announce the rebranding of its company when they are ready. You are the reason why they won't discuss ORBI Enterprises" right now. SEGA knows that the PS NEAR unveiling must come first because they know people like you automatically get both Orbis and ORBI mixed up.

I'm not mixing up Orbi trademark, and the Sony Playstation Orbis devkit. Whether or not either branding happens isn't arguable. Sega could rebrand as Orbi tomorrow, and it's more reasonable to assume that it fits with their current strategy of leveraging it's assets in amusement centers and established markets.

And it isn't fanboyism. I wouldn't be talking about ORBI, if SEGA NEVER FILED THE TRADEMARK in the first place.

My conclusions are based on what it says, it's just too bad you don't care to read it yourself.

It's too vague to draw conclusions on which equate to saying:

Sega is making a new tablet gaming device, or Sega is returning to the console market by making Ringedge into hardware for the home.

SEGA will announce it soon. Your deluding yourself that that Orbi is made up. It's not.

Never said it was made up, it's obviously a brand trademark. We're all saying it's not reasonable to blindly assume that Sega, a company now only starting to get it's shit together financially after cutting and outsourcing it's development to a few projects, would somehow decide to compete in the gaming hardware market again, when it's in decline and saturated by Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, HTPCs, and the threat posed by Apple & Google's app markets easily moving to HDTVs or media boxes.


It's as if you are a fanboy with no sense of the economics necessary to jump back into hardware, how much it would cost to gain success with it. It's as if you think that Sega as a console brand is relevant at all these days, where the majority of kids and teenagers have no memory of even the Sega Dreamcast. If you want to say we're not TRUE Sega fans because we only want them to stick to software, or that we somehow don't want new Sega hardware, go ahead; you're just making yourself seem even more ridiculous and close minded toward rational skepticism.

You provide sources for a patent, and claim they are going to somehow bring it all back. Your other arguments relying on patents show little proof, and a disregard for other reasons that conflict with your conclusion. Why shouldn't we be skeptical about everything you say here? Why shouldn't people who genuinely love Sega's legacy be frustrated with the histrionic and baseless arguments that prop up every year, only to predatorily troll the scene with false hope?

Also, this is TrekkiesUnite118's response, in case you're burying your head in the sand & have him on ignore:

We didn't get them confused at all. You just started spouting nonsense on the matter saying Orbis (pay attention, I didn't say Orbi) wasn't the code name for Sony's next system and that it was Thebes and PS near instead. And then you went on to ignore the mounds of evidence that it is in fact Orbis.

And we didn't say Orbi was made up either, we simply don't come to the same conclusion as you do.

[tz101]

This entire debate reminds me of 'It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown". Linus and Sally sit in the pumpkin patch all night on Halloween waiting for the Great Pumpkin which Linus swears is coming any minute now. It never pans out, though, and Sally realizes she has been robbed of an enjoyable Halloween.

[evildragon]

Hmm, I can picture Mr.Sega right now. Some poor lonely soul eating ramen while laughing his ass off while he trolls everyone with his completely useless lies.

Yea, I can see that!

[Drakon]

Hmm, I can picture Mr.Sega right now. Some poor lonely soul eating ramen while laughing his ass off while he trolls everyone with his completely useless lies.

Yea, I can see that!

Take relief in knowing that most people realize this's a forum and not some set in stone wiki of facts.

[MrSega]

Take relief in knowing that most people realize this's a forum and not some set in stone wiki of facts.

You're right this is a forum. A professional one at that.

[Occutell]

Really? $1000+ for a pentium powered laptop with Integrated graphics? and that's only the light model. LOOOOOOL
Even the rest of them are bleugh on pricing.

[Da_Shocker]

So I guess MR Sega was somewhat right.

[MrSega]

I see some potential in SEGA taking a shot at the Niche PC Laptop gaming market. When you think about it, Atari Corp. had too during 1986-1987 because their reputation was thoroughly shot but Atari still had quite a bit of money left. SEGA is hungry for capital. They've got healthy finances and good revenue and decent business. If what Jurgen Post said is true, than SEGA can SUCCEED in venturing into markets unrelated to software publishing if they play their cards right by partnering with the right brands.

America's PC market is growing faster and due to widespread internet access, SEGA now has MORE opportunity then Atari did 26-27 years back to become a stronger PC publishing brand and centric niche Laptop brand. Why should we overlook such a opportunity?

Outside of Japan, SEGA would certainly need good partnerships if they want to bring these Laptops to the Niche market. In America, there's Dell/Alienware of course, but there's also Acer, Coby/Electronic Frys, and still Gateway(I'm surprised they are still around.) I would suspect that Enterbrain and SEGA want to sell them at full price mark up. Though I'm sure if it succeeds, then SEGA could join forces with NEC,Toshiba and even Fujistu and sell them at lower prices in Japan.

I'm not sure which PC retailers in Europe would want to do business with SEGA.(Maybe some fellow Euro users here can list some of them) but does anyone think it would be a good idea for SEGA of Europe to follow suit.(Everywhere I read, Euro SEGA fans are completely skeptical about SEGA doing anything else besides publishing, they believe SEGA failed as a hardware brand and think anything else SEGA tries is a lesson in futility.)

[gamevet]

Anyone that is serious about PC gaming, doesn't buy a $1500 laptop to do so.

[MrSega]

Anyone that is serious about PC gaming, doesn't buy a $1500 laptop to do so.

SEGA and Enterbrain are selling them at full price markups.(similar to what Apple likes to do.) It's Japan, what do you expect. I was suggesting if SEGA wants to go niche, they would probably partner up with popular PC brands and sell them at much more affordable prices.

If SEGA were to start selling them in Japan through NEC, the starting price would be much much lower. If we were to see them distribute them in America under the Duress of Dell/Alienware, Gateway,Acer or even Coby/Electronic Frys, the starting price would likely be between $699-799.

[Armoured Priest]

Anyone that is serious about PC gaming, doesn't buy a $1500 laptop to do so.

I am going to qualify your statement. There are people who are serious PC gamers who'll plop down that much for a gaming laptop (or more), but they tend to have already bought a high-end desktop as their main "system", and use the laptop so that they don't miss "raid/PvP" times while on the road. Also, it's certainly not all of them, or even a majority. It is a significant enough sized group that its worth mentioning, though.

[gamevet]

I am going to qualify your statement. There are people who are serious PC gamers who'll plop down that much for a gaming laptop (or more), but they tend to have already bought a high-end desktop as their main "system", and use the laptop so that they don't miss "raid/PvP" times while on the road. Also, it's certainly not all of them, or even a majority. It is a significant enough sized group that its worth mentioning, though.

I don't consider MMO players as serious PC gamers. I personnaly think MMOs are complete pieces of crap that center around grinding and social interaction, and they offer very little gameplay. Yeah, the under-powered laptop is perfect for the MMO player that is on the go, but don't expect someone to play Far Cry 3 on a laptop, without seriously gimping the graphics.

Seriously though, these laptops are nothing more than custom skins applied to an existing laptop brand. It's no different than Hotwheels licensing Sega properties for use with the Sega themed cars they had put out several years ago. It didn't mean that Sega was getting into the toy car business.

[MrSega]

I don't consider MMO players as serious PC gamers. I personnaly think MMOs are complete pieces of crap that center around grinding and social interaction, and they offer very little gameplay. Yeah, the under-powered laptop is perfect for the MMO player that is on the go, but don't expect someone to play Far Cry 3 on a laptop, without seriously gimping the graphics.

Seriously though, these laptops are nothing more than custom skins applied to an existing laptop brand. It's no different than Hotwheels licensing Sega properties for use with the Sega themed cars they had put out several years ago. It didn't mean that Sega was getting into the toy car business.

Enterbrain is a PC retailer in Japan. Plus the Laptops aren't using Enterbrain's logo or brand. Its not just the skins, its Sega's brand. Plus they're currently only plans to sell them through Enterbrain & its Chains.

Its a partnership. Like if SEGA sold them through COBY. Which is owned by Frys. Meaning they would only be sold at Frys.

[Knuckle Duster]

I don't consider MMO players as serious PC gamers. I personnaly think MMOs are complete pieces of crap that center around grinding and social interaction, and they offer very little gameplay. Yeah, the under-powered laptop is perfect for the MMO player that is on the go, but don't expect someone to play Far Cry 3 on a laptop, without seriously gimping the graphics.

Seriously though, these laptops are nothing more than custom skins applied to an existing laptop brand. It's no different than Hotwheels licensing Sega properties for use with the Sega themed cars they had put out several years ago. It didn't mean that Sega was getting into the toy car business.

I know more than a few members of the PC gaming master race, with multiple accounts in MMOs, who own secondary high-end Alienware and MSI gaming laptops. I wouldn't take them any less serious than a typical Nintendo loving nutjob who buys every console, and praises how they can do nothing wrong. They both usually overlap. I think the MOBA scene is the newest breed of MMO PC gamer, and those guys are definitely serious.