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  1. 03-10-2013, 10:37 PM #136
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    Incredible seeing this running off a stock Genesis. It's impressive this looks kind of close to SNES version even with no FX chip. When will a full version be released Stef ?
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    Tried it on real hardware, quite a few graphical elements just flat out dissapear..
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    Very impressive Stef.

    Edit :

    How is the Genesis pushing polygons ? I know in early 80s I, Robot and stuff had polygons in Arcade so did Sega have this in mind when they made the Genesis ? I know Sega CD could. Or is this newly founded code trickery (program code not chips as there is none) making the Genesis do this ?

    The NES had special chips in games (Mario 3), then SNES had chips in games (StarFox) then Genesis had one in (Virtua Racing) but program codes and tricks were used in systems besides chips in games. But a stock Genesis pushing this...impressive.
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    Well I guess it wasn't as out there as I thought :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yND5V85iPHc
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    http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/mes...threadid=97838



    "Super Nintendo Sega Genesis, when I was dead broke man I couldn't picture this"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt43r0fOMho
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    Ha for shits and giggles guntz I scanned this if you want to post it there, but they could simply post later reviews which gave SNES better ratings, but this was from the 1991 Console Wars issue and it's crazy the Nintendo monopoly was outclassed for once :



    Zoomed in, let's see if they mention slowdown or flicker of a system that came out years after Genesis, had a monopoly on industry and put the cheapest possible chips in their machines to maximize their already rich pockets :



    Earlier :



    But to be fair (and since I owned both systems in 1992), later :



    Bonus : 1989 discusses Genesis and up coming CD drive, Floppy Drive etc :

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    3GenGames is a fucking nintendork if I've ever seen one. I love his overall reaction "How dare you like the Genesis? Go to SegaAge, you don't belong here!" As if Sega fansites are nothing but people shitting on nintendo 24/7. I'm glad he apparently doesn't know about this place.
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    Is it just me or does that 3GenGames act somewhat like a certain someone on these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zetastrike View Post
    3GenGames is a fucking nintendork if I've ever seen one. I love his overall reaction "How dare you like the Genesis? Go to SegaAge, you don't belong here!" As if Sega fansites are nothing but people shitting on nintendo 24/7. I'm glad he apparently doesn't know about this place.
    Damn I am learning a lot reading these threads and Genesis vs SNES polygon debates :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkcTtW-qzC0

    Is it legal they used this engine ? :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASWZrErJeAc

    Which came from Vroom, ha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djvectorman View Post
    Incredible seeing this running off a stock Genesis. It's impressive this looks kind of close to SNES version even with no FX chip. When will a full version be released Stef ?
    Well, i don't think there will be a full version at any time... it's really too much work and can lead to some legals issues.
    I will continue to work on it but i think that having a complete level would be already pretty nice. Right now I am *very* far from it

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    Very impressive Stef.

    Edit :

    How is the Genesis pushing polygons ? I know in early 80s I, Robot and stuff had polygons in Arcade so did Sega have this in mind when they made the Genesis ? I know Sega CD could. Or is this newly founded code trickery (program code not chips as there is none) making the Genesis do this ?

    The NES had special chips in games (Mario 3), then SNES had chips in games (StarFox) then Genesis had one in (Virtua Racing) but program codes and tricks were used in systems besides chips in games. But a stock Genesis pushing this...impressive.
    Thanks All machine can actually push polygons but some will do it really slowly. There is no trick in the starfox demo, just (fast) rendering code but i can surely improve it further.
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    I wonder if Star X would draw as much legal attention.
    "... If Sony reduced the price of the Playstation, Sega would have to follow suit in order to stay competitive, .... would then translate into huge losses for the company." p170 Revolutionaries at Sony.

    "We ... put Sega out of the hardware business ..." Peter Dille senior vice president of marketing at Sony Computer Entertainment

    "Sega tried to have similarly strict licensing agreements as Nintendo...The only reason it didn't take off was because EA..." TrekkiesUnite
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    Thank you Stef, great job btw. A full level as a game would rock (add lasers to shoot !).

    How much do you want, I can donate (key word) money to you when you release it for your hard work.

    I'd really like to play a 1 level version of you putting everything you can technically can by this year if possible.
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    How about Star Sonic? It will be Star Fox with Sonic Characters!
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    I was actually thinking that yesterday too ^ then I was thinking Sega Star.
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