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    The 3DS sits right next the the DS. I don't see why it should be any different for the WiiU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    The 3DS sits right next the the DS. I don't see why it should be any different for the WiiU.
    And how are 3ds sells outside of Japan ?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=3ds+...ient=firefox-a

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    Why was the Gamecube mocked? Was it really that big of a failure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    Why was the Gamecube mocked? Was it really that big of a failure?
    Sales wise it was worse than the Dreamcast month to month, and most of its library is multiplatform. Around here exclusives and sales is what people love more than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    Why was the Gamecube mocked? Was it really that big of a failure?
    I haven't really seen too many people mock it, but when Nintendo fans bring up Sega CD (before kinect one of the most purchase add ons ever) like mocking it I bring up N64 DD, if they say 32 x I say Virtual Boy, if they say Saturn or DC I say GameCube (3rd in sales PS2 and XBox owned it) now I'll bring up WiiU (nobody cares about it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    Why was the Gamecube mocked? Was it really that big of a failure?
    Compared to Nintendo's other consoles it sales were putrid but save for the VB but it did have a decent library of software and its hardware was better than the crap the N64 had.
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    Japan on the other hand is in real danger, if Japanese men don't start liking to play with their woman, more then them selves, experts calculated the Japanese will be extinct within 300 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvectorman View Post
    Well being parents bought a wii this past xmas instead of wiiu because they were confused, the 2d snes like mario games for it, the poor sales, the no 1st party games for months, barely any commercials, the yawn factor of "a new gen system" does this mean the wiiu is the new jaguar ?

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    Because who gives a fuck about it ?
    Actually someone on Atariage was pointing to the PS4 as being the nest Jaguar http://atariage.com/forums/topic/209...he-new-jaquar/ . . . but it was pointed out that the Nvidia Project Shield is the real new Jaguar in the sense of John Mathieson being the lead designer. (one of the 2 main designers of the Jaguar chipset . . . and the Flare 1 prior to that, the Nuon after, and most recently, the Nvidia Tegra processor series -including the Tegra 3 in the OUYA and the Tegra 4 being developed for Project Shield itself)



    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shocker View Post
    Compared to Nintendo's other consoles it sales were putrid but save for the VB but it did have a decent library of software and its hardware was better than the crap the N64 had.
    Compared to the N64 it wasn't that much of a step down . . . there's a relatively consistent gradual decline from Famicom/NES to SFC/SNES to N64 to GC as competition steepened and Nintendo didn't adapt . . . or at least not nearly as quickly or strongly as they should have. (TBH they still haven't broken their old tendencies either, and the largely unchallenged success of their handhelds combined with the Wii's own market shift kind of made it so Nintendo didn't have to -plus all their massive success early on and resulting cash reserves and brand recognition helped stabilize things a great deal -in many ways, Nintendo actually screwed up worse than Sega in terms of legitimate mistakes made, but they had better luck and general saving graces that made up for that in the long run)
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    Dude it’s the bios that marries the 16 bit and the 8 bit that makes it 24 bit. If SNK released their double speed bios revision SNK would have had the world’s first 48 bit machine, IDK how you keep ignoring this.
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    the PCE, that system has no extra silicone for music, how many resources are used to make music and it has less sprites than the MD on screen at once but a larger sprite area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kool kitty89 View Post
    Actually someone on Atariage was pointing to the PS4 as being the nest Jaguar http://atariage.com/forums/topic/209...he-new-jaquar/ . . . but it was pointed out that the Nvidia Project Shield is the real new Jaguar in the sense of John Mathieson being the lead designer. (one of the 2 main designers of the Jaguar chipset . . . and the Flare 1 prior to that, the Nuon after, and more recently, the Nvidia Tegra processor series)




    Compared to the N64 it wasn't that much of a step down . . . there's a relatively consistent gradual decline from Famicom/NES to SFC/SNES to N64 to GC as competition steepened and Nintendo didn't adapt . . . or at least not nearly as quickly or strongly as they should have. (TBH they still haven't broken their old tendencies either, and the largely unchallenged success of their handhelds combined with the Wii's own market shift kind of made it so Nintendo didn't have to -plus all their massive success early on and resulting cash reserves and brand recognition helped stabilize things a great deal -in many ways, Nintendo actually screwed up worse than Sega in terms of legitimate mistakes made, but they had better luck and general saving graces that made up for that in the long run)
    Plus they were media darling for years.
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    Japan on the other hand is in real danger, if Japanese men don't start liking to play with their woman, more then them selves, experts calculated the Japanese will be extinct within 300 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shocker View Post
    Plus they were media darling for years.
    I was including that in "brand recognition" . . . Nintendo and Sony are the only companies to achive the sort of consistent mass market presence (let alone actual market dominance) for multiple consecutive generations that provides that sort of definitive, solid international market presence with a brand.

    Nintendo established that with the Famicom/NES and SFC/SNES, Sony with the PS1 and PS2. So far, Microsoft has been the only one else to come close to that . . . and the odd duration of the 7th generation makes that hard to compare too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    Dude it’s the bios that marries the 16 bit and the 8 bit that makes it 24 bit. If SNK released their double speed bios revision SNK would have had the world’s first 48 bit machine, IDK how you keep ignoring this.
    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    the PCE, that system has no extra silicone for music, how many resources are used to make music and it has less sprites than the MD on screen at once but a larger sprite area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kool kitty89 View Post
    but it was pointed out that the Nvidia Project Shield is the real new Jaguar in the sense of John Mathieson being the lead designer. (one of the 2 main designers of the Jaguar chipset . . . and the Flare 1 prior to that, the Nuon after, and most recently, the Nvidia Tegra processor series -including the Tegra 3 in the OUYA and the Tegra 4 being developed for Project Shield itself)
    Damn he did all that ? I never heard of any of those except Jaguar and Ouya and Steambox. What are others? Also how does he feel that his Jaguar (chip) aids as a dentist tool ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvectorman View Post
    Damn he did all that ? I never heard of any of those except Jaguar and Ouya and Steambox. What are others? Also how does he feel that his Jaguar (chip) aids as a dentist tool ?

    The case of the dentist's tool was molded from a Jaguar case. It looks like a white, wall-mounted Jag.




    And how are 3ds sells outside of Japan ?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=3ds+...ient=firefox-a
    Japan is a whole different beast. The handheld systems outsell the home consoles in Japan and even the PSP is still going strong there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    The 3DS sits right next the the DS. I don't see why it should be any different for the WiiU.
    Maybe if it was 3DWii... Or WiiXL - People would differentiate better ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    The case of the dentist's tool was molded from a Jaguar case. It looks like a white, wall-mounted Jag.
    Uh, yeah I know. That is why I said what I said. Thought it had same insides (chips, boards) though.

    Japan is a whole different beast. The handheld systems outsell the home consoles in Japan and even the PSP is still going strong there.
    I asked how are 3ds sales outside of Japan. Answer, they suck. Like WiiU sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvectorman View Post
    Uh, yeah I know. That is why I said what I said. Thought it had same insides (chips, boards) though.
    No, it's just the case. It doesn't have a Jag chipset inside of it.



    I asked how are 3ds sales outside of Japan. Answer, they suck. Like WiiU sales.
    Handhelds are on the decline outside of Japan. Product name and placement have nothing to do with the poor sales.
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    And It gets even worse......

    Because it's looking like Nintendo's third-party woes ain't ending any time soon. The majority of this year's games? Not on Wii U. Big next-gen games like The Witcher 3 and the Thief reboot? Not on Wii U.

    And now, officially announced this week, the next Battlefield shooter is—you're never gonna guess this—not on Wii U. The game's Frostbite 3 engine doesn't support it.
    Link---->http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-the-ne...-wii-461567682

    I figured I'd ask straight-out, so during the Q&A with Rein, I did. "Will UE4 run on the Wii U?"

    "Hahaha no." Rein said, with expert comedic timing. The room erupted with laughter.

    Link-->http://kotaku.com/the-wii-u-wont-be-...ne-4-462919060

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