Microsoft Confirms Next-Gen Xbox Announcement for May 21st

[sketch]

There's plenty of cheap games on the PS3, and it serves fine as a media player, so I've no interest in the PS4 or the XboxWhatever. As long as Sony supports the PS3 online (meaning I can stream Netflix and play the occasional online game), I'm not even thinking about getting a next gen system. There's just no point for me.

And even once the PS3 is no longer viable online, I may just switch to a computer for my entertainment center needs and gravitate to handhelds (which has always been more my thing). I'm tired of buying and supporting new systems. I'd be fine if they didn't come out with a new PS or Xbox for another 10 years. There's enough power i the current generation for me.

[MrSega]

There's plenty of cheap games on the PS3, and it serves fine as a media player, so I've no interest in the PS4 or the XboxWhatever. As long as Sony supports the PS3 online (meaning I can stream Netflix and play the occasional online game), I'm not even thinking about getting a next gen system. There's just no point for me.

And even once the PS3 is no longer viable online, I may just switch to a computer for my entertainment center needs and gravitate to handhelds (which has always been more my thing). I'm tired of buying and supporting new systems. I'd be fine if they didn't come out with a new PS or Xbox for another 10 years. There's enough power i the current generation for me.

I'm already considering going PC.

[Bottino]

I'm too old for this shit...

[FuturePrimitive]

It will be interesting to see how Microsoft responds to Sony's conference. They couldn't swing me with the 360, so I have doubts that the next will fare any better.

I'm very happy with my PS3/PSP/PS2. Maybe soon I'll go for PS4/PSVita. I like being able to keep my PSN games and play offline when I wish.

[Knuckle Duster]

ps 3 is cheap if you buy used
the games are used cheap and plentifull ( i rarley buy new games anyway ) and the ps 3 ( new and used ) wil onyl get cheaper and cheaper as the ps4 gets released its winding down so now is the best time to keep the ps3 in your views if your budget minded


and the wii u being dead is hyperbole
the xbox 360's first year was about the same level
it shifted 5 million units in its first year

peopel seem to forget that the wii u is a new console and new consoles tend to slowly gain traction and build a library

all things considered the wii U is performing to new console levels but its certainly not a failure yet ( course if sales dont pick up soon it will be a failure but nintendo still has an oppertunity to turn this thing around
they need to raise are for the wii u that its a new console not an upgrade for the wii
they need to cut the price
and for gods sake nintendo release some fucking games and advertise the damn thing ! )

Everything is cheaper if you buy used. It's still cheap to buy Xbox 360 games used too.

The Xbox 360 didn't release with last-gen hardware performance levels. The Wii U will be up against modern hardware.

Here's Nintendo's latest terrible advertising. "Upgrading" is emphasized:

[sketch]

I'm already considering going PC.

I use my computer for emulation, but am not much of a PC gamer otherwise. I will likely go computer for media center and emulation, and handheld for most gaming.

It will be interesting to see how Microsoft responds to Sony's conference. They couldn't swing me with the 360, so I have doubts that the next will fare any better.

I'm very happy with my PS3/PSP/PS2. Maybe soon I'll go for PS4/PSVita. I like being able to keep my PSN games and play offline when I wish.

My only concern about the PS Vita is its longevity. It seems to be on the uptick in Japan, but the software support for it so far is *very* weak. I find the design of the thing to be outstanding though. Love the big screen, the power, and the feel. Dual analog sticks is a nice touch as well.

[FuturePrimitive]

My only concern about the PS Vita is its longevity. It seems to be on the uptick in Japan, but the software support for it so far is *very* weak. I find the design of the thing to be outstanding though. Love the big screen, the power, and the feel. Dual analog sticks is a nice touch as well.

I agree with that completely. It's a worthy successor for the PSP, but it really needs extra support. I think I'll finally cave in and buy it when Ys: Memories of Celceta comes up.

[gamevet]

Everything is cheaper if you buy used. It's still cheap to buy Xbox 360 games used too.

Yeah, I picked up a used Xbox 360 arcade unit in 2009 for $100. I added a 20 gig HDD for another $30. But, it wasn't much of a gamble since the hardware was only about 4 or 5 months old (boxed) when I'd picked it up. The 360s tend to sell for less, because of the horrible failure rates of the units made before the hardware revamp.

The PS3s tend to sell at a higher price, but they are considerably more reliable. They aren't without fault, but failure rate seems to be much better than that of the 360.

The Xbox 360 didn't release with last-gen hardware performance levels. The Wii U will be up against modern hardware.

Here's Nintendo's latest terrible advertising. "Upgrading" is emphasized:

Nintendo got away with dated hardware when they launched the Wii, but it had a gimmick that made it unique to what was available with the PS3 and 360. The Wii U really doesn't have a gimmick that makes it stand out, since the controller pad unit doesn't appear to do much more than what people are already doing with their smart pads. Even the 3rd party support for the Wii was very questionable, when it came to quality products. Nintendo almost pulled an Atari, with the level of crap that was being released on the Wii and it makes you wonder if those shoddy games have turned people away from buying a Wii U. It appears that 3rd party publishers are also taking notice to how poorly Nintendo handled 3rd party support with their previous console and haven't exactly warmed up to making games for the Wii U because of it.

[KnightWarrior]

Because my PS3 Drive is dead, only plays DVD's, PS and PS2 Games

I'm using it as a Media Player, Uploaded my Movies to the Hard Drive

[sketch]

I agree with that completely. It's a worthy successor for the PSP, but it really needs extra support. I think I'll finally cave in and buy it when Ys: Memories of Celceta comes up.

That might push me over the edge as well. Dragon's Crown also looks cool (although I can get it on the PS3), as does Muramasa Rebirth. The game I'm really looking forward to is Jeff Minter's new Tempest game.

[FuturePrimitive]

That might push me over the edge as well. Dragon's Crown also looks cool (although I can get it on the PS3), as does Muramasa Rebirth. The game I'm really looking forward to is Jeff Minter's new Tempest game.

Such solid titles! Dragon's Crown will be day 1 for me on PS3. I bought Muramasa for the Wii when it was released.

Oh, man I am stoked for a new Tempest! Tempest 2000 was incredible. I wonder if he has any unique control ideas...

[xelement5x]

Such solid titles! Dragon's Crown will be day 1 for me on PS3. I bought Muramasa for the Wii when it was released.

Oh, man I am stoked for a new Tempest! Tempest 2000 was incredible. I wonder if he has any unique control ideas...

Same here. Dragon's Crown will be a PS3 pickup but Ys is what will make me buy a Vita. I also want to grab the DJ Max game for it but that is not a "system seller" for me.

[stu]

I can't say I'm really that bothered about either the next gen Xbox or PS4 right at the minute, they are both going to have (relatively) small libraries of games at launch and both are going to be expensive. For the last 13 years or so I've mostly been a PC gamer anyway and not that much of a console gamer, the last console I bought at or around launch was the original Xbox and I found I liked to play on the PC more.

Nowadays I tend to buy a console towards the end of its life cycle so that they are cheap(er) and I can then pick up the system exclusives that I want, (eg I got an Xbox360 back at Christmas 2011, so with that in mind I'll probably look to pick up either of these systems around 2018..lol

[MrSega]

Yeah, I picked up a used Xbox 360 arcade unit in 2009 for $100. I added a 20 gig HDD for another $30. But, it wasn't much of a gamble since the hardware was only about 4 or 5 months old (boxed) when I'd picked it up. The 360s tend to sell for less, because of the horrible failure rates of the units made before the hardware revamp.

The PS3s tend to sell at a higher price, but they are considerably more reliable. They aren't without fault, but failure rate seems to be much better than that of the 360.




Nintendo got away with dated hardware when they launched the Wii, but it had a gimmick that made it unique to what was available with the PS3 and 360. The Wii U really doesn't have a gimmick that makes it stand out, since the controller pad unit doesn't appear to do much more than what people are already doing with their smart pads. Even the 3rd party support for the Wii was very questionable, when it came to quality products. Nintendo almost pulled an Atari, with the level of crap that was being released on the Wii and it makes you wonder if those shoddy games have turned people away from buying a Wii U. It appears that 3rd party publishers are also taking notice to how poorly Nintendo handled 3rd party support with their previous console and haven't exactly warmed up to making games for the Wii U because of it.

As I've said before, its 5200 all over again.

[gamevet]

As I've said before, its 5200 all over again.

The 5200 and Colecovision entered the market during a time when home computers were becoming very popular. They really didn't stand a chance against the far superior games being offered on those home computers at that time.

When I said: "Nintendo was pulling an Atari", I meant that they really didn't enforce quality control over the games that were being released on the Wii. Atari's failure to control the content on the 2600, would have a later effect on how the consumers percieved the 5200's offerings, and consoles in general, but it was Atari's failure to adapt to the changing gaming market that would doom them in the end. Yes, the Wii U in some ways is following the same kind of trail that the 2600 setup for the 5200, but the Wii U also has issues with being very weak hardware overall and having a very poorly handled online solution compared to the competition. The 5200 and Colecovision failed, because the market had moved to home computers. The Wii U is failing, because Nintendo is offering a console that doesn't have enticing software, hardware that doesn't improve upon what is currently being offered by MS and Sony, and a lack of 3rd party support that would make it appealing to consumers. The big difference between the 5200 and the Wii U, is that the retail market decided the fate of the 5200, while the consumer market had made up their mind about Nintendo's console from day 1.