Super Metroid proves modern gaming is crap...

[TrekkiesUnite118]

It came out in April 94.

I know this, because I was a Nintendo fan who grew up on SNES. I waited for it, and I also wasn't a 4 year old kindergarten student at the time.

I was 5, and 6 by May. I wasn't 4. I don't know where you live but in the US Kindergarten is 5-6.

I admit I was wrong about it being out in 1993. But I'm almost 100% certain that it was out before April of 1994 due to the reasons I've already expained. I have a pretty good memory of that year even though I was only 5 or 6. Is it at all possible that it came out earlier in the US than it did in Canada?

Just give it a few more years Trekkies. You'll come to realize that you're not always right and your memory actually sucks because you're getting old and stupid like the rest of us.

Look, I remember playing Super Metroid at my friends house in the middle of winter during snow days. The only time this logically makes sense is during the winter of 1993/1994. We moved in the early Summer of 1994, this isn't just my memory, it's cold hard fact. I was in Kindergarten in Pennsylvania. I was in First Grade in Illinois. Considering I was born in 1988 that would put me in Kindergarten over 1993/1994. According to Weather data we didn't get any snow in April. So it had to be before April.

Years later we moved back to the area. And my friend and his dad still remember playing Super Metroid at his house before we moved.

[Knuckle Duster]

You do realize that it can snow in February or March and stick around on the ground well into April or May, right? Pennsylvania isn't exactly Florida.

Snow days though? I don't know about that, the weather data could have been wrong, you could be remembering the school closure wrong, you could have been playing Metroid 2 on a Super Gameboy or something.

[KitsuneNight]

Did the OP abandon thread?

from what i have seen so far of his threads he usually abandons it after it balloons in to amonster and then spirals out of control
he does one lame attempt to defend himself ( or high light a post that proves his point ) and then abandons ship

[Drakon]

Seriously there's a lot of things from my childhood I remember being during a certain year and later after looking into it more it would turn out I was a year or two off. What's more likely, 5/6 year old trekkies memory being a bit off or super metroid being released a year earlier than 99.9% of people remember it? I've never met anyone else claiming the super metroid release date to me wrong.

[Kamahl]

90% of mainstream games are generic, by the book simplistic "cinematic" garbage I wouldn't play if someone payed me. Of course kids aren't expecting games where you actually need to search for shit or solve actual puzzles. You simply don't have that these days.

I actually find the tutorials a good thing, I never read the manual when it was expected, much less now. Of course kids, used to tutorials, will find a game with no such thing to be daunting.

Still, this says more about the effect of social networking than modern gaming. If you had access to the wiiverse back in the day you'd probably use it, much like one used magazines to know cheat codes, secrets and solutions. I used them, and I used gamefaqs later on. I was used to actual *games* though, so something like super metroid wouldn't surprise me (the original though, give me that damn wiiverse...)

[TrekkiesUnite118]

You do realize that it can snow in February or March and stick around on the ground well into April or May, right? Pennsylvania isn't exactly Florida.

Snow days though? I don't know about that, the weather data could have been wrong, you could be remembering the school closure wrong, you could have been playing Metroid 2 on a Super Gameboy or something.

Yes I'm well aware of when it can snow. However you don't typically have snow days after the snow has been laying around on the ground for weeks. And I most certainly wasn't playing Metroid 2 or the original Metroid. I didn't own an NES, and for the Gameboy all I had at the time was Tetris, Crash Dummies, and Super Mario Land 2. And Super Metroid was my friend's first Metroid game. He didn't get the original NES version until AFTER he played Super Metroid and beat it. His copy of Metroid was the later 1992 rerelease. He didn't have a Gameboy so he didn't have Metroid 2 and I didn't get Metroid 2 until I was in 4th grade, again after I moved.

The late April date just makes the time frame too condensed. Especially considering as it got closer to summer we would have been playing outside more often.

Seriously there's a lot of things from my childhood I remember being during a certain year and later after looking into it more it would turn out I was a year or two off. What's more likely, 5/6 year old trekkies memory being a bit off or super metroid being released a year earlier than 99.9% of people remember it? I've never met anyone else claiming the super metroid release date to me wrong.

This isn't off by a year or two we are talking about though. We're talking about a few months. And Super Metroid's release date is all over the place when you look it up:

Wikipedia/Gamespot, and all sources that use that as a source:
April 18, 1994

According to Nintendo Age:
April 1, 1994

According to 1UP:
June 1, 1994

According to Nintendo:
1994

According to NeoGaf when they did put together a 25 Year History of Metroid:
1993

There are other sites out there that even have October 10, 1993 listed as the release date. The point is I'm not the only one saying that the April Release date doesn't seem right. To make matters worse, there doesn't seem to be a Primary Source for that date. It's just floating around in circle of sites that cross reference each other. Most sites that use that date got it from Wikipedia. Wikipedia got it from Gamespot. Gamespot got it from ?????. Does anyone happen to have a Primary Source from that time frame that specifically states the release date?

I know I was wrong on the 1993 bit. But could it at all be possible since you two live in Canada that you guys got it in April where as in the US we might have gotten it in either February or March? Either of those months would be much more consistent with what I remember.

Anyways this argument is getting really stupid really fast. If someone has a primary source that specifically states "Super Metroid released on April 18, 1994" I'll admit I'm wrong and my memory is wrong. Otherwise let's just agree to disagree and move on.

[Soulis]

If someone has a primary source that specifically states "Super Metroid released on April 18, 1994" I'll admit I'm wrong and my memory is wrong.

Since you are the one who claims that everyone else is wrong about this, doesn't that mean the burden of proof is on you?

But yes, this offtopic subject is not that interesting anyway.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

Since you are the one who claims that everyone else is wrong about this, doesn't that mean the burden of proof is on you?

I did look into it, and what I found was that the release date is all over the place as I mentioned above. And the April 18, 1994 date that is getting thrown around the most doesn't seem to stem from any primary source. It's just a bunch of sites cross referencing each other. The closest thing I've found is one EGM Preview that says "Available April". That is still pretty vague. And considering that Video Game releases were still pretty loose in that generation, I wouldn't be surprised if some stores started selling copies before April if their orders arrived early in March. And if that's the case, that would fit in with my memory of playing it.

[Soulis]

And considering that Video Game releases were still pretty loose in that generation, I wouldn't be surprised if some stores started selling copies before April if their orders arrived early in March.

So, March of 1994 instead of April? All that fuss for 1 month? Ok then.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

So, March of 1994 instead of April? All that fuss for 1 month? Ok then.

Hence why I said this was getting stupid. I had already admitted I was wrong about the 1993 date. I was pretty much saying since I admitted being wrong about 1993 that it was entirely possible we were talking February or March of 1994 when I asked KnuckleDuster and Drakon if it was remotely possible that it came out earlier in the US than in Canada.

[Drakon]

Oh haha I thought we were still talking about the year. What's next, "ZOMFG it's wrong by......5 minutes!@$!@$%!@". I honestly don't care about accuracy beyond what year something was released in.

I once saw a dude with a snes copy of mortal kombat 2 in his store like a few days before it was supposed to be released, he said he couldn't sell it because it wasn't officially launched. I worked in a distribution warehouse for a few years and I got god of war 2 like....maybe a month before it was supposed to be released.

I'm fairly certain super metroid was one of those worldwide releases done all at the same time. The cartridge even contains the japanese subtitles so they could use the same rom. Yes, this stupid off track topic is more interesting than the main topic of this thread haha.

[NeoZeedeater]

Nintendo of America's official date for Super Metroid is April 1, 1994. They used to have their release lists on their website. They don't anymore but someone made a copy at least - http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/mes...threadid=57592
Not that I trust Nintendo itself being 100% correct but I remember it coming out around April anyway. It definitely wasn't a right after Christmas release or anything. EGM would have reviewed it much earlier if that was the case.

[Vector2013]

So it's settled late winter/early spring 1994. The whole "magazines have leads by month or 2" is irrelevant as it was 1994 regardless. He said he was wrong about 1993. What is weird, is that an accurate Nintendo or other archive/database of such a popular games release date is basically unknown. Besides wiki, is there a database for released games from many consoles ? We only have copied info on forums from defunct sites ?

[Segadream]

Is gamefaqs a good source?

[chessage]

For those interested:

Type of Work:
Computer File

Registration Number / Date:
PA0000720157 / 1995-06-07

Title:
Super metroid.

Edition:
Super NES version.

Description:
Videogame.

Copyright Claimant:
Nintendo of America, Inc.

Date of Creation:
1994

Date of Publication:
1994-03-19

Authorship on Application:
audiovisual display, music, program, background sounds:
Nintendo Company, Ltd., employer for hire;
some programming:
Intelligent Systems Company, Ltd. & TEC Company, Ltd., employers for hire.

Previous Registration:
Prev. reg. 1988, PA 356-142.

Basis of Claim:
New Matter:
audiovisual display & programming.

Names:
Nintendo of America, Inc.
Nintendo Company, Ltd.
Intelligent Systems Company, Ltd.
TEC Company, Ltd.

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Is gamefaqs a good source?

No.