Genre by Genre: Sega Saturn and Sony Playstation worldwide libraries comparison

[MrSega]

I would also recommend Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter on Saturn and Vampire Hunter EX for PS1.

[Barone]

Are you trolling this topic, dear MrSega or it's just me?

Also: Sailor Moon on the 3DO zooms in and out, ahahaha!

[KitsuneNight]

has astra super stars been mentioned yet ?
waku waku 7 has been if i recall correctly

[MrSega]

Are you trolling this topic, dear MrSega or it's just me?

Trolling? Recommending "Darkstalkers 3" and "Marvel Super Heroes VS SF" is trolling?

What, I don't have a right to try to be relevant on this topic? I can't post here? Why?

[sheath]

Funny that you got such input since UMK3 Saturn is just a port of PS1's MK3 with some tweaks to look like UMK3 (AI keeps being from MK3, which actually is a big plus since the Arcade one was pretty lame, cheap and hard as balls). UMK3 on the Saturn has the very same (if not longer) loading times of PS1 MK3, so, I don't get it. And we are talking about around 10 secs to load the fight and no additional loadings between rounds; I've seen a lot worse.
About the content, yes, as all other 32-bit MK ports, PS1 Mk3 left several things out (round announcer samples, for an example) but, still, it delivers major upgrades compared to the 16-bit ports; just look at the backgrounds (I think all parallax layers are there, to not talk about the colors), characters sprites and listen to the far superior quality sfx and voices.

It is odd, and keep in mind that I don't exclude a game from the noted game lists for any reason other than the game either not being recommended or being excluded actively for either being unremarkable or bad. You can see the same trend on Gamefaqs reviews though (which actually used to be just regular Usenet gamer reviews). Mortal Kombat 3 on PS1, aside from one outlier 10/10 is regarded as unremarkable. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 on Saturn and Mortal Kombat Trilogy on PS1 and Saturn come more highly recommended albeit with a wide variance.

I think the Saturn version of Trilogy is generally trashed but it was more recently recommended in forum discussions I think. When I started the notable game lists nobody recommended the Saturn versions of any Akklaim game.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

I would also recommend Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter on Saturn and Vampire Hunter EX for PS1.

Both of those have already been recommended by myself and others.

Are you trolling this topic, dear MrSega or it's just me?

Also: Sailor Moon on the 3DO zooms in and out, ahahaha!

At the very least I think he's desperately trying to get an attaboy after the disaster his recent predictions turned into.

[MrSega]

It is odd, and keep in mind that I don't exclude a game from the noted game lists for any reason other than the game either not being recommended or being excluded actively for either being unremarkable or bad. You can see the same trend on Gamefaqs reviews though (which actually used to be just regular Usenet gamer reviews). Mortal Kombat 3 on PS1, aside from one outlier 10/10 is regarded as unremarkable. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 on Saturn and Mortal Kombat Trilogy on PS1 and Saturn come more highly recommended albeit with a wide variance.

I think the Saturn version of Trilogy is generally trashed but it was more recently recommended in forum discussions I think. When I started the notable game lists nobody recommended the Saturn versions of any Akklaim game.

Odd to me, because I thought at the time UMK3 were ported to Saturn and PS1, Midway was no longer doing business with Acclaim. Also, the Saturn pad was simply superior when it came to home Arcade conversions.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

Odd to me, because I thought at the time UMK3 were ported to Saturn and PS1, Midway was no longer doing business with Acclaim. Also, the Saturn pad was simply superior when it came to home Arcade conversions.

None of the 32-bit Mortal Kombat ports after MKII were published or developed by Acclaim. Including Trilogy.

[Barone]

Trolling? Recommending "Darkstalkers 3" and "Marvel Super Heroes VS SF" is trolling?

What, I don't have a right to try to be relevant on this topic? I can't post here? Why?

It would help A LOT if you read all previous posts, including the OP, prior posting.
If all people begin to suggest games randomly, without previous reading anything, this will become complete chaos.

It is odd, and keep in mind that I don't exclude a game from the noted game lists for any reason other than the game either not being recommended or being excluded actively for either being unremarkable or bad. You can see the same trend on Gamefaqs reviews though (which actually used to be just regular Usenet gamer reviews). Mortal Kombat 3 on PS1, aside from one outlier 10/10 is regarded as unremarkable. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 on Saturn and Mortal Kombat Trilogy on PS1 and Saturn come more highly recommended albeit with a wide variance.

I think the Saturn version of Trilogy is generally trashed but it was more recently recommended in forum discussions I think. When I started the notable game lists nobody recommended the Saturn versions of any Akklaim game.

I got your point but I also "admire" the lack of sense in those voters. I wonder if most of them aren't just post-32-bit era players which prize the versions with more content above any other serious considerations (like release date and other stuff).
What I say about these MK ports is based in my own gameplay and tests with them in real hardware. Saturn version of UMK3 is a plain and simple tweaked PS1 MK3, with dithered shadows and PS1-standard loading times. What's so special about it? Being an exclusive MK game for the system and also one of the few good 2D fighters released in US? Maybe...
Saturn's Trilogy is the PS1 version minus true transparencies and with like three-four extra seconds of loading in comparison. IDK, maybe it's all about the godawful PS1 D-pad??? Maybe...

At the very least I think he's desperately trying to get an attaboy after the disaster his recent predictions turned into.

Feels like.

[MrSega]

None of the 32-bit Mortal Kombat ports after MKII were published or developed by Acclaim. Including Trilogy.

I think you missed my point. Midway published MK3 and its Spinoffs on various platforms on their own.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

I think you missed my point. Midway published MK3 and its Spinoffs on various platforms on their own.

And this is relevant to this discussion because...?

[Barone]

@sheath
Saturn's MK Trilogy also lacks a few (very few though) sfx compared to the PS1 version IIRC.

[MrSega]

@Barone. I agree. The technical differences of the MK games on both systems make zero difference. The Saturn controller was built for arcade ports. The PS1 standard pad sucked at using them. End of Story regarding MK's technical differences.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

@Barone. I agree. The technical differences of the MK games on both systems make zero difference. The Saturn controller was built for arcade ports. The PS1 standard pad sucked at using them. End of Story regarding MK's technical differences.

I have to ask, do you even understand what's really being discussed here? It's not about what system has the better games, it's simply listing what good games are on each system in this genre.

[j_factor]

Bad port? I don't think so... It's bare bones, yes, but the first X-Men fighting game is what I would call a bad port on the PS1.
By your logic, we should also remove MK3 and UMK3 from all Mega Drive and SNES lists since they have much better ports on the PS1 and Saturn.

I agree with removing MK3 and UMK3 from SNES and Genesis lists.

However, I think you have to consider the hardware capabilities here and the Dreamcast is a console from another generation, I don't think a direct comparison is valid. Also, most of the gameplay is retained by the PS1 port.

It sounds like you're making comparisons "in theory" rather than practically. In practice, when X version is superior in every way, I'm going to play that version if I'm going to play the game. The PS1 port may as well not exist in this case. I don't care what generation it is either, that's just inserting unnecessary distinctions.

Also I disagree that the gameplay is retained in this case. It's really not.