Genre by Genre: Sega Saturn and Sony Playstation worldwide libraries comparison

[KitsuneNight]

probably a cheat but what about the street fighter collections ?
1 collects sf alpha 2 gold super sf 2 and super turbo

and 2 colelcts the orginal sf 2 sf 2 ce and sf 2 turbo

[TrekkiesUnite118]

I agree with removing MK3 and UMK3 from SNES and Genesis lists.



It sounds like you're making comparisons "in theory" rather than practically. In practice, when X version is superior in every way, I'm going to play that version if I'm going to play the game. The PS1 port may as well not exist in this case. I don't care what generation it is either, that's just inserting unnecessary distinctions.

Also I disagree that the gameplay is retained in this case. It's really not.

But we're not comparing the Dreamcast here. If it was Dreamcast vs PS1 then I'd agree with you, but it's not. It's Saturn vs PS1.

probably a cheat but what about the street fighter collections ?
1 collects sf alpha 2 gold super sf 2 and super turbo

and 2 colelcts the orginal sf 2 sf 2 ce and sf 2 turbo

I already mentioned them for the Saturn, and I don't see any problem with including the PS1 versions. They are pretty close in quality for the most part with the Saturn versions having the edge.

[MrSega]

@Barone. X-Men VS Street Fighter on PS1 was complete and utter garbage. Horrible, horrible port. My brother and I had to be stuck with it for a few years. The flawless Saturn Arcade port makes the shoddy PS1 port look like an overturned portipotty.

[j_factor]

But we're not comparing the Dreamcast here. If it was Dreamcast vs PS1 then I'd agree with you, but it's not. It's Saturn vs PS1.

We don't have to be comparing the Dreamcast. The PS1 version of this game isn't worth talking about because there's a much better version out there. It doesn't matter whether said port is on Dreamcast or whatever other system. It doesn't magically become a better game because someone creates a PS1 vs Saturn thread.

[Barone]

I agree with removing MK3 and UMK3 from SNES and Genesis lists.

That's a very harsh concept IMO. I'll not adopt it any time soon.

It sounds like you're making comparisons "in theory" rather than practically. In practice, when X version is superior in every way, I'm going to play that version if I'm going to play the game. The PS1 port may as well not exist in this case. I don't care what generation it is either, that's just inserting unnecessary distinctions.

Weren't you one of the guys who trashed me a few weeks ago when I said Daytona USA wasn't a Saturn exclusive anymore, among other titles??? I was asking for much less than you're asking here, I think...
I'm not saying the PS1 version is the one to go, I'm not saying people should buy it, I'm not even putting it as a very good version or something... I'm simply saying it's a worth playing fighting game on the PS1, considering its hardware limitations as I'm doing with all games here.
In reality, not all people own all systems, not all people are interested on the Dreamcast, as well as not all people have a Neo Geo AES or a MVS consolized otherwise we would have to remove almost all SNK games from those lists... Or, even worse, remove all games present in those buggy PS2 compilations or Virtual console releases or PS3/XBox 360 compilations... And, again, I'm not ignoring the fact that the PS1 version is faaaaarrr from being faithful to the arcade, I'll mention the DC version in the notes.
I really don't see the need to exclude games this way since I thought it was pretty clear that we are analyzing this games considering the hardware limitations of each system and the generation of both consoles.

Also I disagree that the gameplay is retained in this case. It's really not.

You're right here, sorry, I phrased that part very poorly. I meant to say that the controls work well and the game runs well too.

We don't have to be comparing the Dreamcast. The PS1 version of this game isn't worth talking about because there's a much better version out there. It doesn't matter whether said port is on Dreamcast or whatever other system. It doesn't magically become a better game because someone creates a PS1 vs Saturn thread.

I hope you never recommend any Daytona USA on the Saturn anymore as well... The same for most of KOF games on the Dreamcast since they have improved versions on the PS2 and such.
Your talking here is crazy, totally crazy IMO.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

We don't have to be comparing the Dreamcast. The PS1 version of this game isn't worth talking about because there's a much better version out there. It doesn't matter whether said port is on Dreamcast or whatever other system. It doesn't magically become a better game because someone creates a PS1 vs Saturn thread.

I'm not saying it magically becomes an amazing port. I'm just saying it's simply a game the PS1 has that the Saturn doesn't. And in that sense, it's not that bad of a fighting game.

@Barone. X-Men VS Street Fighter on PS1 was complete and utter garbage. Horrible, horrible port. My brother and I had to be stuck with it for a few years. The flawless Saturn Arcade port makes the shoddy PS1 port look like an overturned portipotty.

If you are going to keep posting these unrelated, barely on topic +1 posts then I'm going to start reporting them.

[Barone]

If you are going to keep posting these unrelated, barely on topic +1 posts then I'm going to start reporting them.

Same here.

[gamevet]

I've got very little to offer in the way of knowledge of the Japanese or PAL libraries, but I can at least contribute 2D fighters for both systems chronologically and mention whether or not I have seen them recommended over the years.

Recommended: Yes
Not Recommended: Blank
Disqualified: No



PS1:

WWF Wrestlemania the Arcade Game

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WWF Wrestlemania the Arcade Game
X-Men: Children of the Atom Yes

WWF Wrestlemania the Arcade Game is a much better game on the Playstation. The Saturn version is pretty bad.

X-Men: COTA appears to be about equal between the 2 consoles.

[KitsuneNight]

^ unless you also factor in the pal saturn version
which is a fucking joke its 19 % smaller it runs in a squashed widescreen thats so horrendous that icemans ice bal attack looks like an egg
its a farce

[zetastrike]

X-Men: COTA appears to be about equal between the 2 consoles.

I was under the impression that the PSX version of COTA is awful. Probe made it.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

I've heard some people say CotA on the PS1 has smaller sprites, some more animation cuts, and some glitches. Though I don't really know how true that is. Wrestlemania the Arcade game seems to be a toss up if you ask me. There's differences between the ports but both have pros and cons.

[gamevet]

I've heard some people say CotA on the PS1 has smaller sprites, some more animation cuts, and some glitches. Though I don't really know how true that is. Wrestlemania the Arcade game seems to be a toss up if you ask me. There's differences between the ports but both have pros and cons.

I've owned both versions of Wrestemania the Arcade game. The Saturn version is glitchy and has some slight sound issues. The Playstation version is very comparable to the arcade game.

[MrSega]

We don't have to be comparing the Dreamcast. The PS1 version of this game isn't worth talking about because there's a much better version out there. It doesn't matter whether said port is on Dreamcast or whatever other system. It doesn't magically become a better game because someone creates a PS1 vs Saturn thread.

Your talking about SFA3 right? I agree, that the PS1 port doesn't deserve an honorable mention since the Dreamcast and Saturn versions are 10Xs better.

[MrSega]

I was under the impression that the PSX version of COTA is awful. Probe made it.

Played the Saturn version. A bit on the slow side, but half decent.

Never played the PS1 version.

What about "Marvel Super Heroes"? Any difference between the two of them?

[Barone]

WWF Wrestlemania the Arcade Game is a much better game on the Playstation. The Saturn version is pretty bad.

X-Men: COTA appears to be about equal between the 2 consoles.

I was under the impression that the PSX version of COTA is awful. Probe made it.

I've heard some people say CotA on the PS1 has smaller sprites, some more animation cuts, and some glitches. Though I don't really know how true that is. Wrestlemania the Arcade game seems to be a toss up if you ask me. There's differences between the ports but both have pros and cons.

COTA is awful on the PS1. Cuts and cuts and more cuts. Saturn version is the only serious attempt to port the arcade game and it's good for the time IMO.

WWF Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game is better on the PS1, overall, but the Saturn version isn't abysmal IMO and it does have some advantages.
Some differences:
- PS1 version uses chip tunes for the characters' themes, Saturn uses CDDA music.
- Saturn version plays the character theme prior to the fight, like in the arcade. PS1 version doesn't do that.
- PS1 version has shadows for the ring's ropes, Saturn's doesn't.
- PS1 version loading times are MUCH shorter than in the Saturn version (actually, the Saturn version has an extra loading screen as well).
- Saturn version has a few additional narration samples compared to the PS1 (I think it still doesn't have all the arcade ones though).
- Saturn version lacks shadows for the fighters during the pre-entrance sequences.
- Saturn uses mesh/dithered shadows, unlike the PS1 version (which uses proper ones and looks better).
- PS1 version has better coloring, especially for the crowd.
- Pre-entrance sequence background is totally messed up in the Saturn version (some CPU fighters sprites are also mirrored during these sequences, WTF????).
- Saturn version has clearer sounding voices.
- Saturn's crowd sounds like crap and just goes silent in a buggy manner at times.
- PS1 version lacks Vince McMahon sitting at the table on the right side, Saturn version has him.

Well, yes, the PS1 version has many more advantages... Feels more polished IMO.