Genre by Genre: Sega Saturn and Sony Playstation worldwide libraries comparison

[Barone]

Honestly, I'd be fine if we didn't mention Mortal Kombat II for either system, as at the end of the day neither port is redeeming factor for either console. In fact I'd say it's a blemish on both systems libraries.

So I'd say either don't include it for both systems, or include it for both and mention what's wrong with both. When there's good arguments for the 16-bit and 32X ports being preferred over both 32-bit ports, I'd say there's something wrong with the 32-bit ports.

Well, to me the Saturn version is *clearly*worse, but if you insist, no problem.
I'm OK with that, let's include both and detail the problems then, otherwise we will get some severe cuts later on.
And maybe I'll bring back Primal Rage on the PS1, as it has all the arcade screens and intro the Saturn version misses.
But if one day someone necrobumps this thread with something like: "Are you NUTS!?!?! MKII on the Saturn is BROKEN!!!", I will let you reply, OK?

And, yes, playing the 32X version is more pleasant, even with all its own problems.

[Barone]

First post updated with both lists so far:
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...l=1#post583155

Tomorrow (later today, actually) I'll convert them into tables with proper info and I'll also try to separate the great games from the "worth playing"-only ones.

Thanks a lot everyone, today was amazing IMO. Lots of good info shared here.

[j_factor]

I think what Barone is trying to say is that we don't want to open that can of worms. By including Dreamcast ports in here to disqualify PS1 fighters we are pretty much opening the doors to later console rereleases as well as things like Neo Geo versions of SNK ports for both systems. It just makes things a mess. If we open door now whats to stop us from saying "Why bother with Daytona USA, Virtual On, and Virtua Fighter 2 on the Saturn when you can get better versions of them on XBLA?"

Some people do say that. They may have better graphics, but IMO a physical copy trumps a download. Not to mention, most XBLA ports are bare-bones releases, omitting any additional features that were on the older console versions.

If (hypothetically) they threw the XBLA version of Virtua Fighter 2 on a retail disc and included all the content that was in the Saturn version and it didn't have any major flaws, sure, I would say that it supplants the Saturn version.

That would deal a harsh death blow to the Saturn Library in this debate. Same with if we said "Why bother with Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid when you can get better remakes on the Gamecube?" It's just not fair for this discussion.

Most people seem to treat RE1 and REmake as separate games. They're pretty different. As for MGS, I own both, and I think the original is better. I know I'm not alone there: fan opinion is pretty divided on Twin Snakes.

A more apt comparison would be Resident Evil 2. Which I would say, don't bother with the PS1 version.

So for the sake of this thread, please stay within the scope of the Saturn and PS1 libraries only.

So in other words, this is a purely academic discussion.

[KitsuneNight]

wouldnt it be easier to give each genre their own thread instead of one large thread ?

because there would be a lot of over lap in the thread otherwise it woudl become confusing to determinate what is where
and waht convo is supposed to start where
it also took 7 pages to get this far just with 2d beat em ups and no doubt this thread wil continue to balloon with 2d beat em ups alone

[bultje112]

I think I paid like 80 dollars for my copy of World Heroes Perfect for the Saturn. Needless to say I spent way to much money on it. @Barone have you played the US versions of KOF 95 and SS3 for the PSx?

world heroes games are terrible. I own at least 1 and 2 of them for aes

[profholt82]

Barone, when you convert them into tables, could you also specify the region(s) for each game? I understand that this will require more effort, but you could use a key to make it easier. I just think region coding would make the chart more useful and easier to use as a quick reference.

[Barone]

Sure, I'll do that. Thanks for the suggestion!

[Da_Shocker]

How does the PSx version of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure compare to the Arcade version? I was always curious as to why Capcom would port a massive CPS3 game to the PSx. Then again they ported a CPS2 game to the SNES.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

I noticed a mistake on the Saturn list. You have both Night Warriors: Darkstalkers Revenge and Vampire Hunter listed. They are actually the same game, just different names for different regions.

[Barone]

Thanks, fixed (was very tired when I posted that).
I'll be back later, after work.

[A Black Falcon]

Honestly, overall, for 2d fighting games, I'd rather play newer platforms. I mean, sure, there are a few on PS1 and Saturn that are good and still worth playing (Darkstalkers 3, for instance), but so many of the better ones were superseded by superior sequels on newer platforms... like, SNK is probably my favorite fighting game company, but their PS1/Saturn stuff, like inferior ports of KOF '95-99, okay ports of SamSho 3-4 (and 1-2 also on PS1), Last Blade on PS1... seriously, none of them are really worth playing compared to SNK's Dreamcast and PS2 release lists. I know that' a different generation, but the games are so much better, and better-ported, that I don't know if any of SNK's 5th gen fighters are actually worth playing now.

As for other companies, the Street Fighter series similarly is better on Dreamcast. Darkstalkers isn't really (Vampire Chronicle is good, but doesn't contain the bonus material from the PS1 and Saturn Darkstalkers 3 games), though, and that import Saturn version of SF Alpha 3 sounds good. That's about all I can think of, however. As for the Marvel/Marvel Vs. series, of course I can't stand those games at all, and don't think any of them are any good. I guess the Street Fighter EX games are okay, though they aren't anything remotely near "must play this" territory. (As for Mortal Kombat, the 5th gen 2d ones are fine; I have UMK3 for Saturn. I'm not a big series fan, though, so I rarely go back to it... but sure, it's a good version. The game is on newer platforms as well now, though.)

And yes, I know that each generation is separate, but when you have the same games on platforms in multiple generations, I do think that comparing them makes some sense.

[KitsuneNight]

the streetfighter EX games are 3d not 2d

[MrSega]

Well, to me the Saturn version is *clearly*worse, but if you insist, no problem.
I'm OK with that, let's include both and detail the problems then, otherwise we will get some severe cuts later on.
And maybe I'll bring back Primal Rage on the PS1, as it has all the arcade screens and intro the Saturn version misses.
But if one day someone necrobumps this thread with something like: "Are you NUTS!?!?! MKII on the Saturn is BROKEN!!!", I will let you reply, OK?

And, yes, playing the 32X version is more pleasant, even with all its own problems.

So you're saying the 32X version is actually functional?

[The Jackal]

Your talking about SFA3 right? I agree, that the PS1 port doesn't deserve an honorable mention since the Dreamcast and Saturn versions are 10Xs better.

Yes it should, it was a good port of a good game.

[KitsuneNight]

it was a decent port of a good game on limited hardware