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    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    The PS3 eventually caught up with the 360 because Japan will always go to Sony or Nintendo and will not reconsider their brand loyalty. Apparently Europe will tend toward Sony as well. I think the Xbone and PS4 will be close in sales in the US, but Japan and Europe will probably still be dominated by Sony. Either that or sales of both set-top-boxes will flounder and fail after Christmas.
    You mean country loyalty lol with that being said I would love MS get an exclusive on the FF series just to see how the Japanese react to there all-time favorite series only on a western console.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shapey Fiend View Post
    We've had such a long spell between console generations this time I think there's a lot of pent up demand. The pricing is pretty reasonable compared to the last generation as well.

    I'm mildly disappointed with the horsepower these machines are sporting. I was hoping we'd see the end of 30fps games, and everything being 1080p finally. Of course maybe that's a bit impractical even on a high end PC for another year or two depending on the scope of what your game is trying to do.
    A decent mid-range PC will run most games a 60fps @ 1080p. My EVGA GTX 670 FTW! will run Metro Last Light on very high setting (no SSAA) at 60fps no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shocker View Post
    You mean country loyalty lol with that being said I would love MS get an exclusive on the FF series just to see how the Japanese react to there all-time favorite series only on a western console.
    I meant brand loyalty, but it does have something to do with country loyalty as well. I am no expert on the Japanese gaming market but it seems like they pretty much only buy Nintendo, Sony, and Squeenix, and the rest are left with the scraps.

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    A decent mid-range PC will run most games a 60fps @ 1080p. My EVGA GTX 670 FTW! will run Metro Last Light on very high setting (no SSAA) at 60fps no problem.

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    I haven't had a problem staying above 60FPS since I upgraded the old PC to a 3.2Ghz X2 6400+ and Radeon HD 4850. The current HTPC obviously doesn't even blink at any PC games I have thrown at it. Most of these games were designed for the PS360 though, so I am hoping the new gen consoles push the HTPC and its octal core plus HD 7850 a little more. I might even pay full price, but I doubt it.
    "... If Sony reduced the price of the Playstation, Sega would have to follow suit in order to stay competitive, .... would then translate into huge losses for the company." p170 Revolutionaries at Sony.

    "We ... put Sega out of the hardware business ..." Peter Dille senior vice president of marketing at Sony Computer Entertainment

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    I meant brand loyalty, but it does have something to do with country loyalty as well. I am no expert on the Japanese gaming market but it seems like they pretty much only buy Nintendo, Sony, and Squeenix, and the rest are left with the scraps.




    I haven't had a problem staying above 60FPS since I upgraded the old PC to a 3.2Ghz X2 6400+ and Radeon HD 4850. The current HTPC obviously doesn't even blink at any PC games I have thrown at it. Most of these games were designed for the PS360 though, so I am hoping the new gen consoles push the HTPC and its octal core plus HD 7850 a little more. I might even pay full price, but I doubt it.
    Crysis 3, Metro Last Light and Battlefield 4 require at least a Quad-Core CPU and a Graphics card with a minimum of 2 GB VRAM. I had to retire my 1 GB GTX 460s in sli, because of the lack of VRAM. They still ran Crysis 3 at @ 45 fps on high settings.
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    Ah, yeah, I haven't even tried demos for those yet. They need to stop increasing the graphics requirements and try fixing the unicycle physics first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    Ah, yeah, I haven't even tried demos for those yet. They need to stop increasing the graphics requirements and try fixing the unicycle physics first.
    They have crazy new ways of doing AA. Nvidia has FXAA and then there is SSAA that renders the image at an insane resolution and then outputs it @ 1080p. Even Battlefield 3 exceeds 1 GB of VRAM @ 1080p.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    They have crazy new ways of doing AA. Nvidia has FXAA and then there is SSAA that renders the image at an insane resolution and then outputs it @ 1080p. Even Battlefield 3 exceeds 1 GB of VRAM @ 1080p.
    I did not know that. I'm glad I sprung for the 2GB version of the HD 7850 then.
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    "Sega tried to have similarly strict licensing agreements as Nintendo...The only reason it didn't take off was because EA..." TrekkiesUnite

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    The PS3 eventually caught up with the 360 because Japan will always go to Sony or Nintendo and will not reconsider their brand loyalty. Apparently Europe will tend toward Sony as well. I think the Xbone and PS4 will be close in sales in the US, but Japan and Europe will probably still be dominated by Sony. Either that or sales of both set-top-boxes will flounder and fail after Christmas.
    literally everything you say to badmouth sony is so full of shit. the japanese console market is dead. the ps3 sold very badly in japan and accounted for barely more than 10% of total console sales(almost all of them in first few years btw). you really want to argue that ps3 pulled ahead of 360 because of japan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shocker View Post
    You mean country loyalty lol with that being said I would love MS get an exclusive on the FF series just to see how the Japanese react to there all-time favorite series only on a western console.
    this isn;t the 90s anymore. japan hardly care for final fantasy anymore. I can't remember the last ff game that sold more than a million. I think it was ffx 10 years ago? so ms could try and get ff exclusively. it won't matter. they did with 360 they go last odyssey by makers of final fantasy and other jrpg;s and nobody bought the system.

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    Japan AND EUROPE, stoned sony lover. North America and Japan sales of PS3 don't even add up to what the Xbox 360 sold in North America alone.

    http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/



    7 PlayStation 3 (PS3) 27.89 32.32 9.63 11.24 81.08

    9 Xbox 360 (X360) 45.40 24.95 1.65 7.79 79.79
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    that's not what you said. and that's eays to say considering 360 only really sold well in us. not anywhere else. and the us is the most declining market outside of japan. that's why ps3 is kicking 360's ass so much in recent few years

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    So, "apparently Europe will tend toward Sony as well" doesn't mean anything to you. Got it. Also, if almost 25 million 360s sold in Europe is bad sales, then the PS3 sold poorly in North America.
    "... If Sony reduced the price of the Playstation, Sega would have to follow suit in order to stay competitive, .... would then translate into huge losses for the company." p170 Revolutionaries at Sony.

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    no because he said "will tend", as in something in the future

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    Not that it matters much since we're only a drop in the ocean as compared to the larger console markets,


    PS4 sold out in South Africa.

    Ster Kinekor Entertainment (SKE), distributor of Sony Entertainment products in South Africa, has announced that the PlayStation 4 has sold out across the country on the day of its launch, 13 December 2013.

    This makes the console the fastest-selling Sony product in SKE history, out-selling the PS One, PS2, PS3, PSP, and PS Vita at launch.

    http://mygaming.co.za/news/ps4/61011...th-africa.html
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    I will forever hate MS for killing off MeeGo and buying out Nokia.
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