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    The NCAA announced Wednesday it is not renewing its licensing contract with Electronic Arts for a college football video game, citing legal and business concerns.

    The NCAA, EA and the nation's leading collegiate trademark licensing and marketing firm, Collegiate Licensing Co., are co-defendants in at least two federal lawsuits concerning the use of college athletes' names and likenesses. EA is the defendant in another, similar case.

    In a statement, the association said: "We are confident in our legal position regarding the use of our trademarks in video games. But given the current business climate and costs of litigation, we determined participating in this game is not in the best interests of the NCAA."

    Warren Zola, who teaches sports law at Boston College's Carroll School of Management, said the NCAA's decision indicates "they are no longer able to handle a jury decision against them. They are taking precautions against a judgment causing them significant financial hardship."

    Zola said that a decision by the NCAA to continue its licensing arrangement with EA "would allow more members into the (prospective class of plaintiffs) able to claim damages."

    The NCAA's agreement with EA pertains only to the use of the NCAA's name and logo -- not those of the individual schools depicted -- and its statement pointed to a more serious question: "Member colleges and universities license their own trademarks and other intellectual property for the video game. They will have to independently decide whether to continue those business arrangements in the future."

    EA Sports and the Collegiate Licensing Co. (CLC) issued statements saying that EA will continue to develop and market college football games featuring the teams and leagues customers "expect."

    However, University of Kansas athletics department spokesman Jim Marchiony -- who identified his school as a CLC client -- said KU officials will want to digest the NCAA's decision. Marchiony said Kansas' agreement with EA, via CLC, for the current version of NCAA Football expires June 30, 2014.

    "I'm not surprised CLC and EA Sports have a Plan B and we're looking forward to hearing from them about it, to see how we'll proceed in the future," Marchiony said. "We will certainly talk about it, where we go from here."

    One of the lawsuits against the NCAA, EA and CLC is awaiting U.S. District Judge Claudia Wilken's ruling on whether to certify the case as a class action. That case currently involves a group of former college football and men's basketball players headed by former UCLA basketball star Ed O'Bannon.

    If Wilken certifies the suit as a class action, it could allow thousands of former and current football and men's basketball players to join the case. That could create the possibility of a damages award in the billions of dollars. In addition, if the plaintiffs were to get everything they have said they are seeking, it would force the establishment of an entirely new compensation arrangement for current NCAA Bowl Subdivision football players and Division I men's basketball players -- one under which "monies generated by the licensing and sale of class members' names, images and likenesses can be temporarily held in trust" until their end of their college playing careers.

    Another case that had been before Wilken pits former Arizona State and Nebraska quarterback Sam Keller against EA, the NCAA and CLC. That matter currently is pending before the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, with the defendants hoping to overturn Wilken's refusal to dismiss the case.

    In May, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a district court ruling that had dismissed a case involving former Rutgers quarterback Ryan Hart against EA. EA's bid to have that decision reviewed by the Third Circuit's full panel of judges was denied, and on Wednesday, District Judge Freda Wolfson in New Jersey ordered the case reopened for further proceedings.

    It is likely that Hart's lawyers now will begin seeking class certification. And if the Ninth Circuit rules in Keller's favor, his lawyers will do the same.

    The NCAA said its current contract with EA expires in June 2014, "but our timing is based on the need to provide EA notice for future planning. As a result, the NCAA Football 2014 video game will be the last to include the NCAA's name and logo."

    Gabe Feldman, director of the Tulane University Law School's sports law program, said "as long as the game continues to have the names and logos of the schools" it remains viable because "that's why a consumer buys the game."

    Asked how the NCAA's decision not to continue allowing its name and logo to be associated with the game might affect individual schools, Feldman said: "There's no question the schools have been monitoring all of this and (the NCAA's decision) may factor into their decisions going forward."

    "But," he added, "the really essential part of the game is the players. ... A separate issue continues to be what (EA) will do with the players. Will they make the players completely generic, with no numbers? If they do that, there's no legal liability. There may be room somewhere between the game as we know it today and no game at all."

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    AKA, the NCAA trying to claim that it somehow didn't make profit by allowing EA to do so through player likeness.

    TBH this is one of those situations that has the potential for a large backlash for the consumer. Potentially any company that wants to make an NCAA game will have to negotiate with the schools individually for rights which is going to be horrid. Not having the powerhouse schools in your game simply because they demanded too much will be a virtual death warrant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occutell View Post
    Not having the powerhouse schools in your game simply because they demanded too much will be a virtual death warrant.
    Remember NCAA Basketball on SNES? It only had like 4 conferences on it. The game still sold quite well though.

    As for EA and their monopolistic hold on NCAA and NFL licenses, I do not understand why FTC has not stepped in before now.
    It is finished!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tz101 View Post
    Remember NCAA Basketball on SNES? It only had like 4 conferences on it. The game still sold quite well though.

    As for EA and their monopolistic hold on NCAA and NFL licenses, I do not understand why FTC has not stepped in before now.
    Will VC/2K do it ? They punked EA (esp when their games were published by Sega, Sega Sports) to the point where EA decided to have a monopoly on most sports (games) in 2005/2006 because the VC/2K/Sega games were better and cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vector View Post
    Will VC/2K do it ? They punked EA (esp when their games were published by Sega, Sega Sports) to the point where EA decided to have a monopoly on most sports (games) in 2005/2006 because the VC/2K/Sega games were better and cheaper.
    Actually it was the NFL that was pissed off that Sega was selling the game for budget price so the NFL went to EA to offer them an exclusive rights. Someone approached the NBA with something similar but they declined. And it's funny because the 2K series has mopped the floor with Live so much that EA has put that series on indefinite hold for years.
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    Not sure who is the more vile organization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shocker View Post
    Actually it was the NFL that was pissed off that Sega was selling the game for budget price so the NFL went to EA to offer them an exclusive rights.
    Yes but EA paid them a lot for that yes (the NFL's asking price) ? It was a way for EA to monopolize NFL but NFL to get paid upfront and a % of games sold from EA. So it was a win win for both. But good info.

    Someone approached the NBA with something similar but they declined. And it's funny because the 2K series has mopped the floor with Live so much that EA has put that series on indefinite hold for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vector View Post
    Yes but EA paid them a lot for that yes (the NFL's asking price) ? It was a way for EA to monopolize NFL but NFL to get paid upfront and a % of games sold from EA. So it was a win win for both. But good info.



    Cool.
    Shit like this is why I wonder the government didn't get involved. I hate monopoly's but it's ok if someone keeps releasing a great product and the comp has to kill there's due to quality issues.
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    Not quite yet
    BUT

    The new Deal is NON-Exclusive...at least until that other stupid condition as part of the settlement via antitrust expires in 2017

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