Coping with Nintendo fan boys/girls

[zetastrike]

I'm sure even the DKC fanboys here agree, DKC2 is a much better game.

Idk, I always thought DKC3 is the only one with good gameplay. It has the worst atmosphere though. DKC1 is the opposite. The game has a lot of ambiance, but it gets boring really quick. DKC2 is frustrating and really unappealing.

[Kamahl]

Idk, I always thought DKC3 is the only one with good gameplay. It has the worst atmosphere though. DKC1 is the opposite. The game has a lot of ambiance, but it gets boring really quick. DKC2 is frustrating and really unappealing.

I dunno, I thought 2 had the happy medium. DKC3 might play the best but it's just dumb. DKC1 has some ambiance (some), but not enough to justify it's boring gameplay.

[KitsuneNight]

You know what's better than Donkey Kong Country? Every other Donkey Kong game.

you know whats better then a donkey kong game ?

anything else

god i hate monkey

[zetastrike]

At least Miyamoto (spelling?) told it like it was about DKC. Until the higher ups made him retract his statement.

[KitsuneNight]

if even miyamoto doesnt like that damn game
or maybe he just disliked that hideous model nintendo is still using

[Obviously]

Idk, I always thought DKC3 is the only one with good gameplay. It has the worst atmosphere though. DKC1 is the opposite. The game has a lot of ambiance, but it gets boring really quick. DKC2 is frustrating and really unappealing.

I hear that from people occasionally. I've never played the third one though so I don't know. I kind-of like the second game but not enough to ever get me to continue on with the series.

Usually people on other forums are shocked that I dislike DKC, especially its graphical style.

[midnightrider]

if even miyamoto doesnt like that damn game
or maybe he just disliked that hideous model nintendo is still using

Really, what asshole decided to put him in a tie? That was "hip" by 90's standards .

Heh, reminds me(for some reason), one of the mags within the subscription I had, had an interview with Miyamoto, I think around the time of Super Metroid. He considered Sonic to be very good. In fact, read it for yourself(don't mind my shitty editing, the question was on the lower left of the page, and the answer more in the middle):

ShigeruMiyamotoOnSonic.jpg

[Kamahl]

I absolutely despise the look of DKC, I like the sharper renders in Sonic 3D Blast a lot more. In DKC everything looks muddy.

[negative chill]

I absolutely despise the look of DKC, I like the sharper renders in Sonic 3D Blast a lot more. In DKC everything looks muddy.

Visually speaking, Sonic 3D Blast still looks amazing considering how many people said that the Genesis could never pull off anything remotely close to DKC. Though the special stages do leave a little to be desired :/

[Kamahl]

Though the special stages do leave a little to be desired :/

They seem more like an excuse to do the "axelay effect".

[Bottino]

At least Miyamoto (spelling?) told it like it was about DKC. Until the higher ups made him retract his statement.

Now i'm curious, what did he say about it?

Heh, reminds me(for some reason), one of the mags within the subscription I had, had an interview with Miyamoto, I think around the time of Super Metroid. He considered Sonic to be very good. In fact, read it for yourself(don't mind my shitty editing, the question was on the lower left of the page, and the answer more in the middle):

ShigeruMiyamotoOnSonic.jpg

The question was kind of stupid, but he gave an great answer.

[KitsuneNight]

^ in so far i recall he thought it was an awfull game with bad design

edit here you go >> “Donkey Kong Country proves that players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good.” - Shigeru Miyamoto


which proved to be quite true over the years
as long as the graphics are purdy good gameplay be damned in the mainstream

[Pulstar]

(Blind) brand loyalty is a serious mental condition.

[Obviously]

People have theorized Miyamoto had some hostility towards DKC because it was in direct in-house competition with his own pet project, Yoshi's Island. There was also a lot of pressure at the time for 2D games to emulate the look of 3D games and embrace the digitized graphics style which he as forgoing in his upcoming game.

Though I think you also have to look at it from his perspective, as Donkey Kong was his baby and Rare's vision for the character was drastically different from his. Control of the creation that he helped put Nintendo on the map with was now out of his hands. That's excuse enough to be a little raw and critical I think.

I don't know really know if Nintendo "forced" him to take back that quote for PR reasons (because what does he care he's thinking of retiring anyway) or if in recent years he just softened to the game as it became successful and time marched on.

[negative chill]

People have theorized Miyamoto had some hostility towards DKC because it was in direct in-house competition with his own pet project, Yoshi's Island. There was also a lot of pressure at the time for 2D games to emulate the look of 3D games and embrace the digitized graphics style which he as forgoing in his upcoming game.

Though I think you also have to look at it from his perspective, as Donkey Kong was his baby and Rare's vision for the character was drastically different from his. Control of the creation that he helped put Nintendo on the map with was now out of his hands. That's excuse enough to be a little raw and critical I think.

I don't know really know if Nintendo "forced" him to take back that quote for PR reasons (because what does he care he's thinking of retiring anyway) or if in recent years he just softened to the game as it became successful and time marched on.

I think what he did was Yoshi's Island and the "Crayon Pencil" visuals (which were also present in Kirby's Dreamland 3) were certainly something to be proud of. The whole game was very cute and an absolute joy to play