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    That's not a PS3 game. A PS3 game would not have DVD rom on the label.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninsega View Post
    1st generation SEGA CD discs are durable.

    All Wii U discs are durable.
    +1 about Wii U discs i was impressed when i opened a few of my games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    That's not a PS3 game. A PS3 game would not have DVD rom on the label.
    ...not...sure...if...serious? That's a generic pawn shop sticker on it.

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    For the Fallout example, I think there is a difference between disc rot (problem caused between the disc portions) and what is happening there. If the disc uses the printed "label" as the reflective layer and that is scratched, it isn't disc rot. That's the same thing that happened to my Marvel vs Capcom on Dreamcast, the "label" started flaking in spots and the disc became unusable.

    We all should know the true kings of disc life are the Playstation black disc. They don't even look like CDs but just plastic. I have many that are look severely scratched yet work just fine. Maybe that type of disc was dropped because they were TOO reliable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripredacus View Post
    Maybe that type of disc was dropped because they were TOO reliable!
    Another example of money being more important than art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarmSignal View Post
    ...not...sure...if...serious? That's a generic pawn shop sticker on it.

    Sorry, I couldn't see it all that well on my iPhone. I'm traveling around Kansas (help me) at the moment, so I haven't had access to my laptop, or PC.

    Why would they put those crappy stickers all over discs? Especially when a Blu-Ray disc has nothing to do with DVD.
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    cause they are idiots ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripredacus View Post
    For the Fallout example, I think there is a difference between disc rot (problem caused between the disc portions) and what is happening there. If the disc uses the printed "label" as the reflective layer and that is scratched, it isn't disc rot. That's the same thing that happened to my Marvel vs Capcom on Dreamcast, the "label" started flaking in spots and the disc became unusable.
    Those Blu-Ray discs are about as durable as it gets. You can take a set a car keys to the bottom and not even put a smidget of a scratch on them. You have to be pretty rough on the top side as well, since it is painted with durable acrylic paint.
    A Black Falcon: no, computer games and video games are NOT the same thing. Video games are on consoles, computer games are on PC. The two kinds of games are different, and have significantly different design styles, distribution methods, and game genre selections. Computer gaming and console (video) gaming are NOT the same thing."



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    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    Sorry, I couldn't see it all that well on my iPhone. I'm traveling around Kansas (help me) at the moment, so I haven't had access to my laptop, or PC.

    Why would they put those crappy stickers all over discs? Especially when a Blu-Ray disc has nothing to do with DVD.
    To the mostly overweight and balding dudes who run pawn shops, it's all the same, it's a CDVDHDBlurayLaserCassetTape thingy. This guy puts them on all of his games so people don't sell his own stock back to him easily, I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    Those Blu-Ray discs are about as durable as it gets. You can take a set a car keys to the bottom and not even put a smidget of a scratch on them. You have to be pretty rough on the top side as well, since it is painted with durable acrylic paint.
    Durable? I once found a copy of Alpha Protocol for PS3 floating in water. I pulled it out and the entire label / data peeled right off like a cheap sticker. That's something I would never expect with older discs, but with the sratches I've seen through PS3 / 360 games I wasn't surprised. It's like the stuff is barely sitting on there in the first place. However, I've never seen this with any Wii games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarmSignal View Post



    Durable? I once found a copy of Alpha Protocol for PS3 floating in water. I pulled it out and the entire label / data peeled right off like a cheap sticker. That's something I would never expect with older discs, but with the sratches I've seen through PS3 / 360 games I wasn't surprised. It's like the stuff is barely sitting on there in the first place. However, I've never seen this with any Wii games.
    Leave it to Sega to use a sticker on a Blu-Ray disc. Even the $5 copy of T2 I have sitting in my company truck has an acrylic painted cover.

    Either way, the sticker missing has no effect on Blu-Ray playback.

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    so nobody wants me to mess up my blu ray copy of paranormal activities ?

    ...damn it
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    I don't think so. Today I found Final Fantasy XII behind my dresser, and it doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarmSignal View Post


    This is a PS3 game. See the very light scratches on the label? You can see completely though the disc when you look through them.
    You have to scratch a DVD more deeper on the label side to cause an issue than you would with a CD. You sure that's a real DVD? Seems a little odd. The label is darker so it's likely you would see through it more if the paint started coming off or the disc gets nicked a little, even if the very thin metallic layer is fine. Looks more like the choice of printing the label is why you're seeing anything at all on the other side. It should work, fine. If it doesn't, it's not a real DVD or scratched a lot deeper than you realize. Unless the reflective characteristics change enough to affect your PS3 somehow. The thin metallic layer on discs are so thin a very bright lamp will pass light through the disc if there no print at all. Thick dark labels let less light pass through than thinner, light labels do. Disc labels are printed with either offset printing or silk screen printing.
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    No PS3 games are pressed on DVD. The dumbass at the pawn shop put a DVD sticker in the middle of the disc for some stupid reason.
    A Black Falcon: no, computer games and video games are NOT the same thing. Video games are on consoles, computer games are on PC. The two kinds of games are different, and have significantly different design styles, distribution methods, and game genre selections. Computer gaming and console (video) gaming are NOT the same thing."



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    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    No PS3 games are pressed on DVD. The dumbass at the pawn shop put a DVD sticker in the middle of the disc for some stupid reason.
    Likely he got it from a shady pawnshop if the Blu ray has problems due to scratches.

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