Saturn vs PlayStation

[NAE1000]

i haven't actually voted here as i think it's just personal opinion that counts. obviously the saturn bombed and playstation went on to rule for a very long time.

my friends' older brother had a saturn (he had everything we wanted as he had a job!) and i played KOF, guardian heroes, daytona and manx TT on it. it was great fun, really arcade like and exciting but i was a playstation kid- not because i didn't particularly want a saturn, but it the saturn was about £500 on release and by the time i got my playstation for about £250 of my mom's hard earned; you couldn't really get a saturn anywhere any cheaper anyway!

the lure of the 3D power won me over with the playstation (in more recent discussions with my friend Jez over bouts of street fighter we concluded that 3D gaming turned our generation in to navigators, not gamers-as when playing classics we once completed- it seems that much harder to do so).
i had three different playstations (through trading etc) and was very happy with each and every system and game i had. though the capcom fighters didn't ever seem quite right....

now however i have recently aquired a modded saturn; a PAL base unit with an NTSC-J, NTSC and PAL switch and a 50/60hz switch (all for £55 delivered from the glorious 'Bay).
i'm waiting on x men vs steet fighter with the RAM card, which as far as i can tell via online research- is damn near arcade perfect-this excites me.
i do have Zero/Alpha 2 though and love playing it, the saturn controller while IMO is still not as good as the megadrive 6 button, is great to play with-much nicer (for a 2D fighter at least) than the playstation pad.

now, while am now enjoying the saturn, i just don't think i could have as a kid-too expensive for starters- very doubtful i could have secured a multi region or even jap console (or the games to go with it). so i would have stuck with a PAL lump. and from what i understand, localisation wasn't kind to a few PAL saturn titles, if they were released at all.

i loved my playstation, i really did, it was truely the last time i was really genuinely child like (as i was one maybe) excited about getting a brand new console, looking forward to the amzing new graphics and gameplay this ugly little gray thing promised. i still have some games i put in my PS2 from time to time, loaded and FF7, wipeout 2097 and ape escape etc.

but now i can also enjoy the 2D jap delights of the saturn in proper 60hz, and appreciate them. though my wish list games are rare and expensive- it's nice to have a saturn. the two consoles share many titles, the playstation is no doubt triumphant at the 3D based games-but the playstation doesn't have true versions of some of capcoms greatest fighers, japans greatest shooters and...........it can't do 10 player bomerman!

in conclusion-the two systems are worlds apart and always were-great at their own thing. if it weren't for the perceived arms race of sorts, the demand for 'new' 3D gaming over 2D sprites and marketing men, both systems could have flourished amid their strengths-alas, not so.....rather let us celebrate the systems' uniquities, the things they did really, really well....

Saturn:
radiant silvergun
guardian heroes
thunder force 5
x men vs steet fighter
nights
saturn bomberman
panzer dragoon (zwei & saga)
dragon force
virtual on
battle garrega
virtua cop (2)
virtua fighter (2)
daytona (SE)
sega rally

Playstation:
Ridge racer (revo')
final fantasy 7
warhawk(i don't care what anyone says, this game was ace!)
tekken (2 & 3)
time crisis
resident evil
soul blade/edge
micro machines v3
armoured core
tenchu
wipeout (2097 & 3)
command & conquer
ape escape
g police
colony wars (2, badass!)
blast radius (colony wars without the story)


see, just rekindle your gaming memories and you'll surely find a place for both systems

[velvet396]

seems a bit unfair to post this poll on a sega fan site... buuuut anyway

My vote goes for Playstation, with a simple reason to back it up, it's the only one I owned growing up. I had countless hours of fun with it. Here's a fun time-shock for you, I saved up $320 USD from my first job ever (paper route) in order to buy the PSX. I was so freaking pumped.

I remember when I finally reached my goal, I think the first game I got was Ridge Racer. This would've had to have been a gift, as all of my money was spent on just affording the console. Was Ridge Racer packed in? I can't remember. I don't think so, so it must've been a gift.

So yeah, doesn't justify calling it a better system to the Saturn, but it's my personal preference. Perhaps playing some Saturn classics with my newly modded system will spark up a similar relationship, but I doubt it - part of the PSX's appeal was that it was the top tech (to me) at the time.

[16-bit pwnage]

The best way the Saturn will spark some kind of magical enjoyment for you will probably be the arcade ports. Daytona USA's not as graphically appealing as Ridge Racer, but it's still a very enjoyable game; that goes double for other Sega arcade games like Virtual On, and Virtua Cop.

[GEN ESIS GAMER]

Let's get real here it's playstation.

[jumbo11]

Objectively looking,

PlayStation

no doubt. It started the 3d console era. Its gaming library cannot be beaten.

[Psy]

The best way the Saturn will spark some kind of magical enjoyment for you will probably be the arcade ports. Daytona USA's not as graphically appealing as Ridge Racer, but it's still a very enjoyable game; that goes double for other Sega arcade games like Virtual On, and Virtua Cop.

Night into Dreams is pretty assume, then you have great ports of popular 2D arcade games like Elevator Action Returns, Cotton Boomerang (the arcade was only released in Japan), Sonic Wings Special, King of Fighters, and Metal Slug, these was not released in the west (screw you Bernie Stolar) but all you need is a import cart to play Japanese Sega Saturn games, there is also Keio Yugekitai the sequel to Keio Flying Squadron on the SegaCD.

[GEN ESIS GAMER]

This is stupid come on this is like PS2 vs gameube the PS2 would win every time let's pick the better console becaue it's PS1 over the saturn.

[evildragon]

This is stupid come on this is like PS2 vs gameube the PS2 would win every time let's pick the better console becaue it's PS1 over the saturn.

this is why no one likes you, you confuse opinion as fact..

[Joe Redifer]

PlayStation

no doubt. It started the 3d console era. Its gaming library cannot be beaten.

It's gaming library can be beaten by the Sega Master System.

[jumbo11]

That's not what I had in mind but I won't disagree wit you either.

[Drixxel]

It's gaming library can be beaten by the Sega Master System.

Bold statement, Joe! You mentioned earlier in the thread that there were only a handful of must-own PSX games, in your opinion. Have you sampled a wide selection of the PSX library?

[Joe Redifer]

Yes, I rented games for it a lot when it was available. I imagine I've probably played more PS games than many if not most PS fans. If you like the common denominator (re: average), PS will appeal to you. It brought average gaming into the mainstream. And by average I mean lame.

[Mr Smith]

this is why no one likes you, you confuse opinion as fact..

I think you're clouding facts with your opinions.

Fact = The PlayStation is a better console than the Saturn.
Misguided opinion (probably caused by spending too much time around hippies/feminists/liberals) = The Saturn is better than the PlayStation.

[Drixxel]

Yes, I rented games for it a lot when it was available. I imagine I've probably played more PS games than many if not most PS fans. If you like the common denominator (re: average), PS will appeal to you. It brought average gaming into the mainstream. And by average I mean lame.

A console's gaming library is a somewhat arbitrary way to group together a broad and diverse variety of games that may or may not have much in common with one another. It's entirely possible to genuinely dislike the majority of a console's library, but the attachment of the company brand to the console and the bias inherent to every person makes it hard to be objective when judging the worth of this X number sample of games. Sure, hardware limitations may give a console's games a certain feel, but does a game like Tale of the Sun have anything in common with Gran Turismo?

In your case, Joe, if you've exposed yourself to a great deal of the PlayStation library and you legitimately don't like what you've played, fair enough. The PlayStation doesn't do it for you. However, the fact that you're a self-confessed Sega loyalist makes it harder to accept your damning of the PlayStation and praising of the Saturn as being based purely on the quality of games for both consoles.

If it's the influence of the PlayStation on modern gaming that you dislike, that's a different beast entirely and I don't feel it has a place in a discussion of the fun of a console's library . How that library was received by the beefwitted majority should not influence your opinion of it.

[evildragon]

I think you're clouding facts with your opinions.

Fact = The PlayStation is a better console than the Saturn.
Misguided opinion (probably caused by spending too much time around hippies/feminists/liberals) = The Saturn is better than the PlayStation.

FACT: The PlayStation has better hardware.

OPINION: Games are better on console A than console B.