School me on the Master System!

[marlowe221]

Local retro game stores around my area charge about $45 for a complete Master System, and as always the average price on eBay is retardedly expensive.

If you own a Sega Genesis maybe a Power Base Converter would suffice. You just plug it into your Model 1 Sega Genesis and that's it; no wires, no plugs, tons of fun.

I have a model 2 Genesis actually. I guess I could go for one of the after market adapters for the model 2 for $40 or so. It would be really neat to have the actual system but I could live without it.

[segarule]

Maybe the better solution is PBC for genesis owners.
This site help?
http://www.fullyretro.com/products/m...rtby=&showall=
Australian games and Master of Darkness.

[Vector]

Rastar mentioned

[retrospiel]

Rastar mentioned

Gesundheit.

[Vector]

Gesundheit.

Lol.

Anyway has anybody ever done a full 25 best sms vs Nes 25 video ? Maybe kimble justice or sega channel? I know of ghostbusters or double dragon compare videos and such but like a video comparing castlevania to master darkness or rastan vs ironsword or r type vs whatever or rocky vs punch out maybe zillion 2 vs contra or wonderboy 3 vs Mario 3 or golden axe rpg vs zelda or maybe pengion vs kirby or phantasy star vs something? Sure Imo some of the Nes games i listed were better Imo but I loved the sms games too esp ninja gaiden version and kenseden I think rambo 2 was the same as 1 or even 2 other master system games just a different name.

Not sure what you guys would chose as master system best vs nintendo best but I like double dragon ghostbusters rampage and ninjas gaiden over Nes versions. Hell I think many master system games could get a vs win maybe darkness over castlevania2 ? Sf2 on master system looks great for 8bit it damn near looks 16 bit but gameplay is horrib and games like robocop vs or alien3 or aladan or mickey or shinobi streets of rage or ghouls ghost sonic golden axe etc are great too but I like those better on genesis except afterburner. But the mark 3 with Fm crushes nintendo hardware Imo but nintendo had classics like smb maro3 contra zelda etc. Not sure what classic card games not cart or 3d sms games are though however a usa master system with Fm and everdrive is sexy.

Also I have a question does the master system part of the genesis reduce any video or audio quality of master system games compared to master system 1 for example not from power base converters but from components (even though same chips) of genesis motherboard, like how genesis 2 is smaller than genesis 1 so audio suffers maybe from bad connections or another sound chip or filters idk but I would imagine a master system model 1 or mark III with expanded fm module with its cards, carts and 3d glasses features is better quality than a master system 2 or 3 or sms games on genesis 2.

[Jessie]

The Sega Master System! My favorite gaming console of all time. I have been collecting for some time now, but I have had a system since it came out. I own about 78+ games right now and am looking to complete the set eventually.
My top games:
1. Phantasy Star (Best 8 bit RPG ever!)
2. Mickey Mouse Castle of Illusion (Great game and lots of fun! Great replay value!)
3. The Ninja (Love the music and the challenge. When I was younger I could beat it with one man.)
4. Ys The Vanished Omens (Great RPG, only wish book II was included)
5. Golden Axe Warrior (Zelda clone but done many times better! My opinion of course)

Will post more soon!

There are a few videos comparing the systems on you tube. I will look up the names and post a link later.

[thesegadude]

There are some good recommendations here. I'll throw my two cents as well; for games to consider other than what you already have and what's currently on your wish list:

Phantasy Star (above all else )
Golvellius
R-Type
Miracle Warriors (real old school gameplay but I love it)
Wonder Boy
Wonder Boy in Monster Land
Ys

I'm glad to see you have Quartet on your wish list! I think it's an over looked game. The controls are a bit stiff but it's a good game.

[Jessie]

If you want to see comparison videos Gaming History Source on YouTube has a ton! He goes over virtually every incarnation of any given game. I would add Rastan to the list. It's fun and simple but very enjoyable.

[tryphon]

Comparisons between SMS and NES would be funny, but irrelevant. For two things :

1) when a game exists on both SMS and NES, the SMS is generally (but not always) largely superior.

2) what makes the NES a legendary console is the incredible number of games, among which a huge number of great games which were developped upon it. Unfortunately, the SMS can't compare.

When I think that the 1st Final Fantasy and the 1st Phantasy Star were released more or less at the same date...

[Dragonmaster Lou]

The NES does have one technical advantage in that it has a superior sound chip to the SMS, but the SMS beats it in just about all the other technical categories, I think.

[FuturePrimitive]

The NES does have one technical advantage in that it has a superior sound chip to the SMS, but the SMS beats it in just about all the other technical categories, I think.

Superior to SMS Yamaha FM sound? I don't think so!



FM sound is currently readily available for any Master System, plus the SMSFM converter was recently released. The NES has no advantages.

[Nightwolf]

The NES has no advantages.

Well, yes, the games :P Besides, a few games added chip to sound incredible...

This amaze me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRQAG_jODy0

[FuturePrimitive]

Well, yes, the games :P Besides, a few games added chip to sound incredible...

This amaze me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRQAG_jODy0

If you read Dragonmaster Lou's comment, he was talking about technical system advantages. The NES has no technical system advantages over the Master System. So, I stand by my comment that the NES has no advantages over the Master System.

Nintendo is reaping what they sowed for keeping any 3rd party developer they had in the NES days on a leash by illegally forcing them to only develop for Nintendo. Total games are a moot point, because a large fraction of the games on the NES would not exist if Nintendo actually obeyed the law.

[Nightwolf]

I know, but what I meant, the games that used special chips made the NES a more technical system advantages. Maybe this is not fair, but it happened.

[FuturePrimitive]

I know, but what I meant, the games that used special chips made the NES a more technical system advantages. Maybe this is not fair, but it happened.

The FM expansion for the Mark III and Master System was a better concept, because SEGA didn't have to add in extra chips inside of their cartridges for those systems. Instead, those FM compatible games only required software code. SEGA worked with FM sound long, LONG before Nintendo ever experimented with FM. Not only did SEGA use FM in the Mark III and Master System era, but also in their arcade games.