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    Macs also suck with memory and games. Which are the two main things people want on a computer which you wont get on a mac.

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    NOT true.. Windows sucks with memory, BIG time. Macs use Unix as the underlayer, and Unix is the best with memory management...

    Macs are also good with games now as they can run Windows just for your games.. Anything else said is just pure stupidity and stubbornness..

    PCs are still stuck in hell with Conventional Memory, and Extended Memory, which is a big hurdle to get around... Macs NEVER had this problem, and have always just had one big chunk of memory to use...

    You need to get used to the fact, that today, PC's suck.. If PC's used EFI, then maybe it would be different, but PC's still run on the AT BIOS introduced in the late 80's... Even Microsoft tried to push EFI with Vista, but it failed, and now look at the EXTREMELY high requirements for Vista as far as memory is concerned...

    I'm a programmer, and a certified technician in hardware, and operating systems.. Without a heartbeat, I can say Macs win.. You? Just the "hate"...
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    I don't think games are one of two things people want when they get a computer. Games are usually what the teenage crowd wants (gotta have their Warcraft and FPS games). My Mac can hold 16 GB of memory. Right now it only has a wimpy 4GB installed. Sucks, huh? I should just throw this away.

    OS 9 and before had pretty crappy memory management. I remember that a lot of times it didn't free up much RAM when an application quite. You'd have to use a shareware app like Memory Purge or some such thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
    I don't think games are one of two things people want when they get a computer. Games are usually what the teenage crowd wants (gotta have their Warcraft and FPS games). My Mac can hold 16 GB of memory. Right now it only has a wimpy 4GB installed. Sucks, huh? I should just throw this away.

    OS 9 and before had pretty crappy memory management. I remember that a lot of times it didn't free up much RAM when an application quite. You'd have to use a shareware app like Memory Purge or some such thing.
    Yes, the "Classic" days sucked..

    On those operating systems, you had to ALLOCATE memory before the application loaded, and the application couldn't exceed it.. You also couldn't add too much or you'd waste memory..

    OS X isn't like that, that's why it's dynamic...

    Windows tried doing this, but in the end, Windows uses the Page File improperly, and yields WAY too many page faults... (Bill Gates never did like the 286's extended memory thing, he called the CPU "brain dead")
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    Yeah, in the GET INFO window of any application in OS 9 or before, you could allocate the maximum amount of memory a program would use, and also the minimum if I remember correctly. For big apps like Final Cut Pro, this helped a lot as the default memory settings were usually too low. If you had mega memory in your machine, you could increase it to take advantage it. You could also turn Virtual Memory on and off. I always had it off since I was high-stylin' with my 256 megs of RAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evildragon
    NOT true.. Windows sucks with memory, BIG time. Macs use Unix as the underlayer, and Unix is the best with memory management...

    Macs are also good with games now as they can run Windows just for your games.. Anything else said is just pure stupidity and stubbornness..

    PCs are still stuck in hell with Conventional Memory, and Extended Memory, which is a big hurdle to get around... Macs NEVER had this problem, and have always just had one big chunk of memory to use...

    You need to get used to the fact, that today, PC's suck.. If PC's used EFI, then maybe it would be different, but PC's still run on the AT BIOS introduced in the late 80's... Even Microsoft tried to push EFI with Vista, but it failed, and now look at the EXTREMELY high requirements for Vista as far as memory is concerned...

    I'm a programmer, and a certified technician in hardware, and operating systems.. Without a heartbeat, I can say Macs win.. You? Just the "hate"...
    I agree with most of your points but I wouldn't go as far as saying that PCs suck. I'd keep it at "Windows-PCs" suck. Sure the BIOS-thing is a sad state of affairs but it's not the complete downfall of the PC.

    I run Linux on all of our boxes at home (and at work) except on my iBook (naturally..) and I think that with Linux you'll get a hell of a lot more out of your PC-hardware. It's not the memory-hog Windows is and that's just one thing out of many that Linux does way better than Windows.

    Oh well, as long as it's Unix in one form or another I'm pretty much happy

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    I was tired when I wrote that.. LOL

    Yea, not all PCs are bad.. Even though people hate Dell PC's for example, atleast their BIOS does better, and is actually directly designed from the ground up for what it's intented purpose is (and not an off-the-shelf modified version like most PCs)...

    Most servers are modernized with better systems. Too bad they aren't desktop PCs...
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    ***just imagine I wrote a really big block of text here about how my operating system is infinitely superior to yours and how aloof i am about even having to explain myself***

    DEBATE THAT ONE, INTER-TOADS!!! *smugly reclines in chair, swills brandy*

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    If I have to imagine the block of text, then you lose because your OS accidentally deleted it before you could post. My OS wins!

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    Elusive: I will now proceed to laugh long and loud.

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    I just recently switched to mac and I love it!

    http://www.mac-forums.com

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    Having tried both, personally, I prefer Windows, it's just more useful for me, probably because I grew up with it.

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    How about neither Mac nor PC? I think I'm going to get one of these when they're available.


    You just can't handle my jawusumness responces.

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    I never cared for the Amiga OS, so hopefully they improve the hell out of it. Also, what's the big deal with two ethernet ports? Is it so the computer can act as a hub of some sort? My Mac has this, and either port works. Maybe I can plug one into Comcast and the other into a different ISP for double-awesome internet speed?

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    One can hope.

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