GBA: Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis

[Elusive]

For god's sake, Sonic Genesis doesn't run the original game in emulation. It was based on a rewrite of the game for cellphones and the like - hence why the collision detection is completely dysfunctional. Emulating a Mega Drive on GBA hardware would be IMPOSSIBLE (which I mentioned in my other post) at any decent frame rate (you'd get something like 5 fps, tops) - all GBA-versions of Mega Drive games are reprogrammed rather than emulated.

By 'built for the hardware', I mean Dimps had access to the appropriate development kits to create an entirely new Sonic game on the GBA. The developers of Sonic Genesis had a fifteen-year-old game built for a nearly twenty-year-old console that nobody has the source code for any more.

I'm not saying it's emulated at all - I'm saying that a perfect port of Sonic the Hedgehog to the GBA is impossible! Sonic Genesis may be a poor replica of the original game, but considering what it's running on, what do you honestly expect?

Besides getting a Nomad, your best bet for a portable, accurate Sonic the Hedgehog is either a GamePark console with the appropriate ROM and emulator, or a PSP with the Mega Drive Compilation UMD.

[evildragon]

The GBA without a doubt has the hardware to run this game... I mean, it's not even running the GBA in it's normally high color depth. It's keeping the colors just like the Genesis, thus the GBA should in theory have more time to processes, than other GBA games...

I mean, if the GBA can run Doom, it can run Sonic the Hedgehog. And if we had the original programmers doing this GBA port, it would be good.

[Elusive]

I mean, if the GBA can run Doom, it can run Sonic the Hedgehog.

That's not fair: they're totally different games, by totally different developers.

[evildragon]

no, it IS fair...

Sega Genesis: Can run Sonic great, can't play DOOM

GameBoy Advance: Can play DOOM and many more graphically advanced games.. No excuse for shitty Sonic...

[Black_Tiger]

This is why emulation fails. Even emulators written by the companies that own the games can't get 100% exact duplication. Anyone seen Sega's Genesis emulator for the Dreamcast?

The emulation in the Monster World Collection seems pretty damn good.

But its obvious that real effort was put into it with all the options available.

[Elusive]

If the PS1 could run Metal Gear Solid just fine, the DS should be able to run it even better because it's basically a portable N64 - a 64-bit system! That's 32 bits more than the Playstation!!

edit the GBA is a 32-bit system too can it run final fantasy seven?

[evildragon]

If the PS1 could run Metal Gear Solid just fine, the DS should be able to run it even better because it's basically a portable N64 - a 64-bit system! That's 32 bits more than the Playstation!!

edit the GBA is a 32-bit system too can it run final fantasy seven?

actually it could possibly, if it had a CD-ROM drive or some kind of massive storage..

it's GPU lacks the ammount of polygons required for battle scenes.. but for walking through stuff, hell yea it can do it, it's nothing of a bitmapped background with simple polygon characters on top of it... nothing fancy..

[system]

By 'built for the hardware', I mean Dimps had access to the appropriate development kits to create an entirely new Sonic game on the GBA. The developers of Sonic Genesis had a fifteen-year-old game built for a nearly twenty-year-old console that nobody has the source code for any more.

I misunderstood what you were trying to communicate. Sorry.

The GBA without a doubt has the hardware to run this game... I mean, it's not even running the GBA in it's normally high color depth. It's keeping the colors just like the Genesis, thus the GBA should in theory have more time to processes, than other GBA games...

Had Sega actually put any effort into rewriting the game and optimizing it for the GBA's architecture the result would probably have been a lot closer to the original, yes. A perfect (down to the smallest detail) port would most likely not have been possible.

[evildragon]

well the sound may not be perfect, but you could get the visuals perfect, minus the resolution differences..

i know it could be done, it's just: do they want to bother with the effort, and the answer is: only 3rd party...

[Elusive]

I misunderstood what you were trying to communicate. Sorry.

No offence taken

well the sound may not be perfect, but you could get the visuals perfect, minus the resolution differences..

i know it could be done, it's just: do they want to bother with the effort, and the answer is: only 3rd party...

From what I've seen on Youtube (why can't people upload actual videogame footage without adding their own obnoxious soundtrack, three-minute-long personal introduction, and 'comedy' commentary?), it looks like a passable effort. I'll grant a near-as-hell port could be done on the GBA; I just don't blame the devs (THQ?) for wanting to release it in time for Sonic's 15th.

[evildragon]

the game was buggy in BETA, and they were never remidied in the final.. it isn't that hard to fix..

and SEGA did the development.. obviously not the Sonic Team though...

I mean, the physics engine sucks so bad, I can beat the first boss just by jumping ONCE on top, because bouncing on an object is so small and slow, sonic will just keep bouncing, without hitting any key, thus beating the boss with one jump.. useless..

not only that, you could be racing down a walk way, and all of a sudden we go from 60fps to 30fps, with no frame skipping, thus lagging the whole game.. that didn't need to happen, if they had optimized their code..

[Elusive]

Of course prototype games are buggy! That's why they're prototypes!

Was a ROM leaked onto the Internet or something?

[evildragon]

your not listening to me.. the prototype BECAME the final version, because NON of the issues were fixed, including corrupting sprites..