Mortal Kombat II: 32X vs SNES

[Team Saber Rider]

The sound on those MK cabinets was pnenomenal.

No wonder, have you seen the speakers in such a Cabinet?

[gamevet]

Interesting to see how even with 32M they still couldn't be arsed to put back Johnny Cage's full win pose.

My guess is that a lot of the memory was used for the sound samples like "Johnny Cage Wins" and "Fatility", which were not present on the Genesis version. I've heard that the "Sega" sound in the introduction for Sonic the Hedgehog took about 1Mb of memory space to produce.

[Da_Shocker]

My guess is that a lot of the memory was used for the sound samples like "Johnny Cage Wins" and "Fatility", which were not present on the Genesis version. I've heard that the "Sega" sound in the introduction for Sonic the Hedgehog took about 1Mb of memory space to produce.

I don't think the Sega chant on Sonic would take up 25% of the cart space on Sonic 1. Anyways Probe is and has always been ass with these ports I mean the 32X version has more voices than the Saturn version. Just let that marinate in your mind right now.

[gamevet]

I don't think the Sega chant on Sonic would take up 25% of the cart space on Sonic 1. Anyways Probe is and has always been ass with these ports I mean the 32X version has more voices than the Saturn version. Just let that marinate in your mind right now.

The Genesis version is better than the Saturn version. I didn't think it was possible for someone to botch a port of MKII that badly.

I believe the Sonic cart was 8MB, the game used 7MB of it and the team decided to put in the Sega voice clip inside of that extra 1MB of free space.

http://segabits.com/blog/2012/09/12/...rtridge-space/

[NeoVamp]

My guess is that a lot of the memory was used for the sound samples like "Johnny Cage Wins" and "Fatility", which were not present on the Genesis version.

But they are present in the Mortal Kombat II Unlimited romhack, which is also 32M and has all the MK1 stages in it and all the bios and the intro pics and the ending pics and new art for the hidden characters.

In short, a romhack has 50% more stuff in it than Probe's official version, Probe just didn't know how to optimize. probably threw some 256 color pics in there and called it a day.

[gamevet]

But they are present in the Mortal Kombat II Unlimited romhack, which is also 32M and has all the MK1 stages in it and all the bios and the intro pics and the ending pics and new art for the hidden characters.

In short, a romhack has 50% more stuff in it than Probe's official version, Probe just didn't know how to optimize. probably threw some 256 color pics in there and called it a day.

Does it have all of the voice samples though?

The music and sound on Street Fighter Alpha 2 for the SNES sounds like garbage, because all of the cartridge space was used for player sprites, and it was using a 32Mb cart.

[NeoVamp]

Does is have all of the voice samples though?

About 95% (if not more) really the only one that I can think of that's still missing is Kung Lao's throw voice sample.
though I'm not sure if Shao Kahn had all his lines reinstated, would have to play to find out.

But yeah even if there were lines missing they could easily fit in if you removed the extra stages and art files.
Probe just half assed it like usual.

[gamevet]

MN12BIRD confirmed what I was saying with this video. The sample clips he's playing in his video takes up a massive amount of cart memory, and that is why some games had horrible sound samples, or missing sound samples.

[Nintari]

I grew up playing the SNES version of MK2 and preferred it back then because it looked better but later when I got older and decided to buy it for my Genesis, I realized that the Genesis version actually plays better. Yes, the sound effects are lacking and there's other things that rub me the wrong way but that gameplay... god it's so much smoother and enjoyable.

I now only play the SNES for nostalgia. The Genesis version is my go-to because I just can't handle the way the SNES version plays anymore.

[NeoVamp]

I realized that the Genesis version actually plays better.

Very true, typical case of the game being split into two versions. playable and eye candy.
but seeing how the eye candy was always half of MK's selling point I am very much stuck between both versions.

[Leynos]

Little off topic but can someone explain to me what the fuck happened to Dooms music on 32X?
Not trying to be an ass but I know 32X can sound better than that. Not trying to say one system is better just that I don't understand how they fucked up the music so bad on 32X. The systems sound was adequete for the era. Cosmic Carnage sounds pretty good for example.

[IrishNinja]

damn, i enjoy DF videos but this was thorough in the differences

aside: i love when examinations cover seemingly minor details. for instance, the saturn port of NBA Jam is called arcade-perfect, but the lack of lahs photography from the crowd when you pull off an awesome move is off-putting in a way that if you've not played the coin-op much, you might not even notice

[Zebbe]

Little off topic but can someone explain to me what the fuck happened to Dooms music on 32X?
Not trying to be an ass but I know 32X can sound better than that. Not trying to say one system is better just that I don't understand how they fucked up the music so bad on 32X. The systems sound was adequete for the era. Cosmic Carnage sounds pretty good for example.

The port was rushed like crazy and was made by only 2 guys, so I guess they cut down on the sound to make the whole thing as playable as possible.

[Barone]

for instance, the saturn port of NBA Jam is called arcade-perfect

AI is laughable in this port. People call "arcade perfect" anything with colors barely matching the arcade ones.

[gamevet]

The AI in College Slam for the Saturn isn't all that great either.