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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lizard View Post
    As a reseller who has ruined the market I regret not holding on to mine longer. I recall getting $70 complete with a somewhat beat up box like 5 years ago. I payed like $20 for it in the early 2000s. I really liked that game but for that much I'll take the cash. I hit a point where it was like "Why do I have three boxed Chrono Triggers sitting on my shelf collecting dust when crazy people will give me a crap load of money?"
    I was talking about resellers who buy games for cheap, then sell them straight afterwards for whatever nutty price they want - I've nothing against honest sellers, just the greedy few raising prices into the hundreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segadream View Post
    How come it's always these asses from this site?
    Like it's a retard magnet or something.
    Maybe that's what the kids from the special Olympics do during the off-season,
    post on that forum.
    This might be the most politically incorrect post i've seen on this forum holy shit :')

    In more on-topic news Crusader of Centy is one of the most underrated Genesis games ever, dunno if it is by hardcore Genesis fans but outsiders just shit all over this game without giving it a fair chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Jackal View Post
    I was talking about resellers who buy games for cheap, then sell them straight afterwards for whatever nutty price they want - I've nothing against honest sellers, just the greedy few raising prices into the hundreds.
    Prices don't raise into the hundreds if collectors aren't willing to pay those prices. Loads of people put stuff online at insanely inflated prices and that stuff doesn't sell.

    But when it does, don't blame the re-sellers for taking advantage of idiots. Blame the new wave of impatient collectors who will pay any price to get what they want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gogogadget View Post
    In more on-topic news Crusader of Centy is one of the most underrated Genesis games ever, dunno if it is by hardcore Genesis fans but outsiders just shit all over this game without giving it a fair chance.
    For me personally, I think it's alright. The story is a little too out-there for me and I'm not that big on how the animal buddies work. It's a solid action adventure game but it's not one of my favorites. I wasn't aware there were any haters really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogogadget View Post
    In more on-topic news Crusader of Centy is one of the most underrated Genesis games ever, dunno if it is by hardcore Genesis fans but outsiders just shit all over this game without giving it a fair chance.
    I haven't really seen any hate for the game, any example? I do know it's not very well known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    I haven't really seen any hate for the game, any example? I do know it's not very well known.
    Here and there, I see the usual "lol sega" response to the game when it's positioned as an answer to zelda, because you know nothing can be compared to sacred zelda.

    Quote Originally Posted by Obviously
    But when it does, don't blame the re-sellers for taking advantage of idiots. Blame the new wave of impatient collectors who will pay any price to get what they want.
    I honestly can't blame a lot of resellers. If I had access to a bunch of items that I could make easy profit by flipping, I would do it to have the extra cash. And laugh at the moron who paid triple digits for a dirt common game.
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    Nope. Bloodlines is the problem, not me. I have no trouble with Super Castlevania IV (SNES) and Dracula X: Rondo of Blood (TCD), and have finished both games. Both of those are outstanding games, among the best platformers of the generation. In comparison Bloodlines is third or fourth tier.

    No, it's unbiased analysis. The only fanboyism is people who claim that Hyperstone Heist and Bloodlines are actually as good as their SNES counterparts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    I haven't really seen any hate for the game, any example? I do know it's not very well known.
    A nintendo fanboy (I know, not a good source for anything) told me it's a second rate Link to the Past clone for people who never had a SNES growing up.

    Seems more than a few ninty fanboys have this opinion and they voice theirs louder than anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogogadget View Post
    A nintendo fanboy (I know, not a good source for anything) told me it's a second rate Link to the Past clone for people who never had a SNES growing up.

    Seems more than a few ninty fanboys have this opinion and they voice theirs louder than anyone.
    I felt Centy introduced enough of its own elements to be original, first rate clone to LTTP at worst but I never felt it was as blatant as say Neutopia or Neutopia II.

    Being able to jump and platform was liberating but it is the animal combination system that made it interesting; I really enjoyed the puzzles where it relied on that mechanic (butterfly sword for switches, armadillo for buttons, etc.)

    I loved Link to the Past, it's probably my favorite SNES game but that doesn't take away the experience of Centy - it was solid despite being a bit short, convoluted in story and narrative, underwhelming with the final boss, whatever - it was quirky, fun and Sonic is in it so that immediately makes me giddy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Obviously View Post
    Prices don't raise into the hundreds if collectors aren't willing to pay those prices. Loads of people put stuff online at insanely inflated prices and that stuff doesn't sell.

    But when it does, don't blame the re-sellers for taking advantage of idiots. Blame the new wave of impatient collectors who will pay any price to get what they want.
    Yeah I agree, new dumbass buyers are to blame for falling for it, but those of us who aren't dumb are still getting shafted by artificially increased prices,; maybe not in the hundreds, but certainly by smaller increases in the 50+ range which don't go down. It's getting ridiculous. I take my hat off to anyone for duping a moron, but let's be real here - it's still damaging the market in the process. Other sellers either think these inflated prices are legit or they just match them to make a quick buck.
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    This game is awesome! I played through it on emulation at the beginning of the summer and fell in love with it!

    I've been wanting a physical copy for a while, but unless I see it somewhere local for cheap, it doesn't look like I'll ever own one. I just can't spend more than $30 for a Genesis game, especially cart-only. Even though I'm always willing to pay more for RPGs, especially good ones, there's no way in hell I'm forking over $100+.

    On a related note, the tunes are sweet


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Jackal View Post
    I was talking about resellers who buy games for cheap, then sell them straight afterwards for whatever nutty price they want - I've nothing against honest sellers, just the greedy few raising prices into the hundreds.
    Well I was being facetious. I hardly can find games for cheap anymore. It wasn't easy ten years ago but now I have more chance of seeing a shooting star. Still I usually sell them for what the market is paying. I have piles of things that were basically worthless back then that are suddenly worth money. For the most part I sell non video game items these days with all the thrift stores thinking they are sitting on gold.



    Quote Originally Posted by Gogogadget View Post
    A nintendo fanboy (I know, not a good source for anything) told me it's a second rate Link to the Past clone for people who never had a SNES growing up.

    Seems more than a few ninty fanboys have this opinion and they voice theirs louder than anyone.
    They are the worst. The few times I have been able to talk to them face to face it usually turns out they never had a Sega anything and know nothing beyond Sonic. I'm not sure why they are so vocal. If a person prefers the Snes that's fine but don't tell me the Genesis was joke when it owned the market back then.

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    Resellers really aren't the problem so much as the buyers. When someone is willing to pay so much for a game and does that it creates a market in which people follow suit. In essence is really is supply and demand. That doesn't mean what is happening isn't a fad where a market can't bottom either.

    Games are a trendy thing nowadays. Sometimes I post stories about resellers. Well today at the game store a guy in his 50's bought a copy of contra for NES. I'm sure it was marked near FMV so I don't believe he was a reseller. Just a old guy still playing games and paying current market value in this trend.

    Games right now is like the 90's trading cards, beanie babies and comic books. People are trying to invest in them and they are very trendy right now. From when I started collecting to someone really recent isn't going to have the same collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogogadget View Post
    A nintendo fanboy (I know, not a good source for anything) told me it's a second rate Link to the Past clone for people who never had a SNES growing up.
    Ah yes, the old "this game is slightly worse than this other game, so it sucks" logic. It's not even a clone, just a similar game in the same genre. It's like calling Sonic a Mario clone.

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    I think most of the people who call it a crappy A Link to the Past clone haven't really played it. Yes, on the surface level it looks like ALttP, but once you play it it's clear the games mechanics are very different.

    It bums me out when people take the attitude of "I like this game better, thus this other game is trash." Oh well, they're only robbing themselves of what would otherwise be an enjoyable experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benjamin View Post
    Just get Ragnacenty. Same game, better case and artwork, for far, far less money. I don't see the inability to read the bit of text in the game harming the experience as it would, say, Panzer Dragoon Saga when going with the cheaper import over inflated Western releases.
    Yeah, the story is really one of the least enjoyable parts of this game for me anyway, honestly.
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    Seriously just going to buy a £100 flash cart and be done with it because I'm fed up of having to pay ridiculous prices. I'll admit the other games I want are rarer but CoC is not worth that much!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lync View Post
    I felt Centy introduced enough of its own elements to be original, first rate clone to LTTP at worst but I never felt it was as blatant as say Neutopia or Neutopia II.

    Being able to jump and platform was liberating but it is the animal combination system that made it interesting; I really enjoyed the puzzles where it relied on that mechanic (butterfly sword for switches, armadillo for buttons, etc.)

    I loved Link to the Past, it's probably my favorite SNES game but that doesn't take away the experience of Centy - it was solid despite being a bit short, convoluted in story and narrative, underwhelming with the final boss, whatever - it was quirky, fun and Sonic is in it so that immediately makes me giddy.


    I just noticed for the first time ever that those switch blocks have eyes on them. Huh.

    I played it many times as Soleil, fun though it's pretty easy after you've beaten the game once and know what to do. Loved the music too, really catchy. Mostly ended up using Leviathan/Cheetah all the time for both fast movement and attacking. I liked some of the hidden stuff in there like when I discovered you can sneak around behind the judge after fighting the desert palace boss to talk to the rest of the NPCs who respond differently - normally you never get the chance if you walk straight ahead.

    Also I don't know if it's in the Centy version, but I recall a guard upstairs in Soleil Town Castle standing in front of a urinal saying 'how itchy' before noticing you and telling you to get out. Didn't expect to see that in there lol.

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