Star Wars Rogue One spin-off

[Obviously]

Star Wars is dead.

Then ignore it and move on with your life.

[Thief]

Then ignore it and move on with your life.

But talking about Star Wars isn't dead.

[Obviously]

Fair enough.

[GriskaGyoran]

I always thought the concept of a Death Star was a crappy idea. If you wanted it to be a central command floating in space, fine. But using it as a super weapon that can kill planets and advertising it as such? Come on, that is the most inefficient way of doing it. Come up with world wrecker torpedoes. Something that burrows to the center of the planet and explodes cracking it from the inside, and have every Star Destroyer carry at least one of them.

[Obviously]

Palpatine, great at manipulating himself to dictatorial power.

Not as great at making important military decisions.

[Tripredacus]

I just think it's bizarre that so few can spot bad movies, and when people are caught up in hype/fad, until several years pass by.

I have spent my days in the salt mines of continuity errors in fictional works, but it never takes anything away from the work itself. I am a former contributor to Phil Farrand's Nickpickers Guide to Star Trek: The Next Generation (one of the revisions) so I know exactly this type of work and where you are coming from. The problem here is that type of talk is always for others in that sphere and will never work in a mainstream discussion. That is why your posts are not working for other people. Most people don't care about the specifics.

As a movie collector, I have to say there are very few "bad" movies. Rogue One isn't one, not now and not for the forseeable future. I don't like to toss around the "bad movie" term lightly. It is reserved for truly bad movies, and not a movie that I don't like for whatever reason. The My Pet Monster movie is a bad movie. Gravity annoys the hell out of me (for reasons similar to yours with Rogue One) but that doesn't mean it is a bad movie. Star Trek Generations totally broke the Star Trek canon, and it annoys me it hasn't been brought up or retconned, but it doesn't mean STG is a bad movie or ruin my view of the rest of the series.

[Thief]

Well, only time will tell how much everyone is caught up in the new Star Wars movie hype. I mean, now that The Force Awakens hype is wearing off, you can see people's rose tinted glasses wearing thin. As if waking up from a drinking binge next to someone they they are repulsed by.


Also for me, when all else fails in movies, the cast of character have to have charm. But I don't see this in Disney Wars either. ... Anyways...




... there's another continuity error someone noticed elsewhere.

Leia: Darth Vader. Only you could be so bold. The Imperial Senate will not sit still for this. When they hear you've attacked a diplomatic...

Darth Vader: Don't act so surprised, Your Highness. You weren't on any mercy mission this time. Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by rebel spies. I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you.

Except they weren't beamed to the ship. A hard copy was slipped to them just before they launched while Vader was on his killing spree.

[Obviously]

As far as continuity errors go, those are pretty minor.

The whole "diplomatic mission" excuse. They might have thought they escaped in the chaos of battle and didn't realize Vader witnessed the ship leaving personally.

The transmission being detected line in a New Hope, just an excuse for detaining them in case the senate wants a recording of this interrogation for evidence maybe?

The point is it's not that hard to rectify. This is softball stuff compared to most continuity issues in long running franchises including Star Wars itself. The EU is a lot more tangled on the origins of the Death Star and the acquiring of its plans than this is. There's the now infamous quote by Pablo Hidalgo, "…if you had to throw a dinner party and invite everyone who had ever stolen the Death Star plans, you'd be surprised at how many place settings you'd have to worry about."

Yeah some continuity errors are bothersome but this is nothing new, nor is it even nearly the worst Star Wars has ever been in this regard. Maybe it's just harder for you to ignore because it's a movie?

Though if you didn't like the movie of the characters I don't think slightly better consistency would have changed your mind much.

[Thief]

For me it just shows how rushed and low effort these Disney Wars are.

[Gogogadget]

It's too bad that someone apparently keeps forcing you to watch them

[Thief]

It's the internet.

[Tripredacus]

Except they weren't beamed to the ship. A hard copy was slipped to them just before they launched while Vader was on his killing spree.

Not a continuity error. Darth Vader only knows that there was a transmission from the planet to the ship carrying Tantive IV, whatever is it. The characters are not all knowing and they cannot see what the movie viewer sees.

[Bones Justice]

I went with a friend to see Rogue One on the opening weekend. My friend assured me this would not be another fan-movie. This was a new all-in-one story. Okay, so I watch, see tons of fan-service. I can't really remember any of the characters names, either. The original Star Wars had regular names, Luke, Ben, Han, Leia. Anyways, after a big build-up to the final confrontation with the Death Star, the credits roll. What the...?



So my friend says, no, now you watch Star Wars. Why would I watch Star Wars? I've already seen it. But this explains Star Wars, she says. Huh, seems like Star Wars made sense to me when I saw it the first time. Why do they make these nerd-films just to explain minor details? Like Batman (1989), great movie, great action, fun story. Then comes the remake, Batman Begins which is just almost two hours of explaining Batman. Oooh, this is how Batman made his batarangs. Wow, this is how Batman got the Batmobile. No thanks.

I can just see it. The next Star Wars will be all about how the guy learned how to make the Death Star in the first place. Oh, better yet, how about somebody make a Star Wars explaining why the Stormtroopers wear armor and helmets when they can be beat up by a blind-guy with a stick or teddy bears with rocks. /sarcasm

Rogue One is a well made movie. But it's pointless fan-service, same as the last one. Note to Disney: MAKE A NEW STORY.

I did like the robot. The robot was cool.

[Obviously]

I do completely agree that this was a movie that didn't need to be made. "Stealing the Death Star plans," was fine for a video game or whatever but there was no reason to tell this story cinematically.

[Tripredacus]

All the spin-off movies will be to fill in the gaps, formerly filled in by the now thrown out EU. Disney has mega bucks so they don't care, and they don't realise they could have made even more money by adapting the EU works into films. I mean, people adapt non-movies into films all the time and they seem to work out ok.