Big is Back

[Cornholio857]

Once again, Big keeps losing Froggy. Which the game makes fun of plenty. I also loved the Knuckles' Chaotix reference in the Knuckles and Shadow feud, which "was on a system no one had" and that it "actually looked like a Sonic game" compared to Shadow the Hedgehog. LOL

[Thief]

Yeah, don't worry. Just misunderstandings.

Yeah, SA1 was the only one I owned, played and beat (not with Super Sonic though) back when I bought my Dreamcast very close to release. Was very excited to play it. It was great the first time through. Was very proud to finally play a 3D Sonic game. It's also the only Sonic game my sister loves (which makes me sad because I then later tried to get her into the Genesis versions and she was like "Oh, but it's not as fun. I don't want to play." lol. But the big theme & style change did let me down and kind of shattered what was established in my mind with previous Sonic games on Genesis & Sonic JAM 3D world. I also got bored fast with the Dreamcast era too, so by the time PS2 was released, I was on my way away from gaming for quite some time.

Was actually looking forward to SA2, even though I never ended up buying it, probably because I wasn't gaming anymore. Only recently a few years back I tried it via emulation, but the other character wore me out before I could give it the proper chance. Why I'm glad to read you opinion. You gave it the proper chance and why your opinion matters. And why I enjoyed your opinion. Me, I just gave a lousy first impression then said I ABF gave up, lol.


This is why I like gaming forums. I like hearing from those that really have a passion for particular games. Motivates me to give other games I may of passed over a better chance. It's always much easier to dismiss a game compared to given them a chance. Especially these days with everyone owning so many more games. And how super nit picky we can get. ie. "But the hit box is wrong & I can't a whippeth in every direction. Therefore game must suck." Yeah well, only perfect hitbox games are 3D games and whipping too much & in every direction can't be healthy.

[miru]

I'm one of the crazy people who enjoyed the whole "serious Sonic" thing for some reason, culminating with the unfinished Sonic '06. Perhaps it was unsustainable because everyone hated it, but the games from Sonic Adventure to Sonic '06 struck a chord with me. Whoever was creatively responsible for these games really understood how people like me think (what a scary thought). I don't really play games these days, but I'll take a spin through one of the old story modes in those games every once in a while.

I really liked the deep and complex storylines that took a few playthroughs to fully understand. A lot of neckbeards rage that nothing makes sense, but it really does if you look at each situation from all the perspectives involved. Much like life, the stories were far from cookie-cutter.

With each game I could reliably expect something new and challenging. I don't think anyone will disagree with me that once you fully understand Sonic '06's story (including being able to track where each chaos emerald is without introducing a paradox), a SM64 level story will underwhelm you.

Another factor was that it was really cool to see that everything isn't always rosy and your actions have real consequences (failing to stop Chaos in time resulted in Station Square being destroyed, Mephiles ends up playing everyone to reunite with Iblis, Silver fails to save his world by himself and has to lose Blaze, E-102 is destroyed freeing the flickies imprisoned inside etc.) This is nothing new in mature games, but for a Sonic game to introduce that to younger players like me really drove the point home. This all happens in a world that is relatively stable. Meaning even Green Hill Zone from the original STH has a future filled with fire. There's no magical ending where Station Square rises up from the ashes and Shadow's entire Black Doom/Gerald origins are just a bad dream. Yet the blue blur never gives up. For a 20-year-old it's all a pretty silly soap opera, but for a little kid it's all new.

One of the coolest things about the old Sonic Adventure story mode was that each story was literally from the perspective of another individual. If Sonic fights Knuckles in Sonic's story, Sonic wins. In Knuckles' story, Knuckles wins. What actually happened was probably a draw. The story modes are actually played from the perspectives of each.

What's too bad is no one is attempting ambitious projects like these anymore. Not to worry though, the days I speak of ended a long time ago. Crazy people like me aren't teenagers anymore!

Yeah, the consequences of things really strike me, especially in the comics and shows where things can get much more heartbreaking and even gruesome at times. Johnny is punched dead by Chaos. Cosmo is changed into a non-sentient tree and blown up. Countless others have betrayed the Freedom Fighters. And STC-O had the Special Zone annihilated, Sonic become an outcast, and Rouge possibly brainwashed ala the Winter Soldier. And in my fan-game project, it will also play out like 06 and prior, but more like the comics.

[Blades]

Yeah, the consequences of things really strike me, especially in the comics and shows where things can get much more heartbreaking and even gruesome at times. Johnny is punched dead by Chaos. Cosmo is changed into a non-sentient tree and blown up. Countless others have betrayed the Freedom Fighters. And STC-O had the Special Zone annihilated, Sonic become an outcast, and Rouge possibly brainwashed ala the Winter Soldier. And in my fan-game project, it will also play out like 06 and prior, but more like the comics.

Satam Sonic was terrifying. I still remember an episode I saw when I was 4-5 years old where Sonic's uncle or someone (Chuck?) was roboticized, and when Sonic ran into him he didn't even recognize Sonic. Then Sonic gave him a ring and Chuck became normal and I relaxed. Then at the very end Chuck relapses and tries to fight Sonic and tells the SWAT fighters where he is. Sonic had to be dragged away crying.

The drama is real. I never read the comics. Which ones are you talking about?

Fan-game?

[miru]

Satam Sonic was terrifying. I still remember an episode I saw when I was 4-5 years old where Sonic's uncle or someone (Chuck?) was roboticized, and when Sonic ran into him he didn't even recognize Sonic. Then Sonic gave him a ring and Chuck became normal and I relaxed. Then at the very end Chuck relapses and tries to fight Sonic and tells the SWAT fighters where he is. Sonic had to be dragged away crying.

The drama is real. I never read the comics. Which ones are you talking about?

Fan-game?

There were two. An American one and one from the UK. The UK version also got a fan-continuation. And my fan-game is only in pre-production for the moment.

[cabear]

i wouldn't mind his friends if they weren't all so doofy looking,

[Blades]

All of them are doofy looking.

[QuickSciFi]

Knuckles is badass looking.