Sonic Mania/ Sonic Mania Plus (XB1, PS4, PC, Switch)

[Gogogadget]

Mickey Mania is a ton of fun.

If you want a bad europlatformer, pick up Fantasia!

[sull56ivan2010]

So basically, they should stop making good games so we are forced to buy shitty ones

Yeah that won't work

That's not what he's saying. Stop bitching. You're making a game out to be really bad when in reality it isn't. Get better at Unleashed or don't say anything. It is far from awful.

Like I've said, The Force Awakens formula. Because this is where this trend started gaining serious traction due to crazy amount of cash it brought in, crazy amount of play it safe cash. So you can see why this is so trending these days with investors.

Let it go on Star Wars, dude. Never watched one, but does one movie upset you so much anyone that has a different opinion shouldn't be listened to? It's just a movie. No big deal.

I made it all the way to last stage in Mickey Mania, and from that experience I wouldn't call it very good.

#Eurotrash

Not Eurotrash. Travellers Tales actually developed a fun game. Do you hate Mickey Mouse games or something? I'm not huge on the cartoons (most boring character in cartoons), but the games are good.

It's not as good as the Magical Quest series or the Illusion series but it's still quite good. Unlike most euro games it has responsive controls and linear levels that are sequences of interesting set pieces (instead of expansive levels filled with random crap). Besides the crappy boss fights there isn't much I would change.

Travellers did pretty well with Disney games I think. It's sad, unfortunately, that they are forced by WB into making Lego games and nothing else.

[Blades]

Take it easy.

Also Tails is a shit character. Makes me glad I never had a little brother. Super annoying. He is the reason I didn't purchase Sonic 2 when it was released and rented it instead as all the mags showed Sonic running around with Tails. I did not welcome Tails. Green Mario is way better than Tails.

Hm

[Thief]

Let it go on Star Wars, dude. Never watched one, but does one movie upset you so much anyone that has a different opinion shouldn't be listened to? It's just a movie. No big deal.

Well if you can find a better example then that movie for fan service fan fiction overload rehash, you let me know.

[sull56ivan2010]

Well if you can find a better example then that movie for fan service fan fiction overload rehash, you let me know.

What you're whining about is beyond obsession. So people like Force Awakens. Get over it. Same thing with the Mickey Mouse games.

[Thief]

What you're whining about is beyond obsession. So people like Force Awakens. Get over it. Same thing with the Mickey Mouse games.

How is it my last post completely flew over your head?

[sull56ivan2010]

How is it my last post completely flew over your head?

Because I'm not interested in Star Wars. How is it me saying "Never watched one" completely flew over your head? I'm not obsessed on hating something millions like and trying to get in fights about it like you are. Just drop the whole thing. You'll feel better. Same thing with the Mickey Mouse games.

[Blades]

So why are you talking about it?

[Thief]

So, Sonic Mania... started a second playthrough but stopped at the third zone, Studiopolis Act 1. Thinking if can play it in small bursts until maybe it will click with me more... at least I'm still listening to it's soundtrack (like now when Sega-16 forum browsing) and using it's rolling landscape PS4 theme. Haven't found the perfect statue spot yet either... Sonic Mania: The Indecision Awakens.

[xelement5x]

Hey, not all euro platformers were terrible! Flink, Puggsy, Mega Turrican and Mickey Mania are all very good.
#NotAllEuroPlatformers

Quoted for truth, Flink is hella underrated.

But for every Flink there are plenty of other crappy games.

[Gogogadget]

That's not what he's saying. Stop bitching. You're making a game out to be really bad when in reality it isn't. Get better at Unleashed or don't say anything. It is far from awful.

Game sucks, i'm allowed an opinion. Piss off.

Oh man yeah Flink, Flink is a real good game. Gorgeous art work too.

[Bottino]

Flink is good, but it's one of these cases where the artwork and visuals truly outshines level design and mechanics. The game needed a password/save system, since it encourages you to re-visit previous stages to find hidden stuff/refill your spell bar and you have to do that in just one playthrough; being a long game and with a slow and methodical pacing, some kind of record system should've been there. Some spells are rather useless as well.

On-topic: these Sonic discussions never fail to impress me. Better than the game itself.

[IrishNinja]

ya'll consider Mega Turrican a platformer? i mean there's a lot of it yeah, just also a lotta shooting

also quoting is still borked for me so here goes

LOL you guys actually like Sonic? Can you tell me what you like about him and his games? Not compared to other games... just what makes his games great to you? I'd really be interested in reading that.

classic sonic is good, unique platforming with more often than not fun/good level design and music.

so the hype was speed, but that's your reward for learning a level - you can blaze through certain zones once you've learned enemy placement/the quickest way to the top route/etc (obviously less so in labyrinth, marble etc zones but speedrunners show you can make them work too).

you can casually play & explore a level - taking different routes than you did prior - and the ring system prevents you from feeling penalized for doing so: spikes aside, you need only keep 1 ring to keep going, couple that with checkpoints & you see it was not only forgiving, but again, encouraging to explore each corner.

the series also got better as it went, with 3/S&K being the peak for me. by then, you had shields allowing gameplay changes, knuckles opening up new areas/ways to play in older titles, etc.

honestly, as an SMS kid who had to champion Alex Kidd before, we could've had what you seem to sell sonic as here: a high-attitude mascot with Buby/Aero/etc level structure, but instead we got something really great.

Also Tails is a shit character. Makes me glad I never had a little brother. Super annoying. He is the reason I didn't purchase Sonic 2 when it was released and rented it instead as all the mags showed Sonic running around with Tails. I did not welcome Tails. Green Mario is way better than Tails.

hey go suck my dick from the back joe reddifer of game sacks
he's a harmless tag-along that i think you can play entirely without anyway...and offered likewise fun & harmless co-op play, unless your brother/friend was a huge dick and got good at flying you into pits, which was kinda hilarious

i too prefer Luigi, but still

Barring Sonic 2's bonus stages, Tails could never really interfere with Sonic, making him the perfect player for LET YOUR LITTLE BROTHER/SISTER/RAMPANT AI WITH A MECHANICAL HUMANOID BODY PLAY, TOO moments, or just serious co-op fun with someone who was as good at the game as you were.

yeah looking back it was kinda genius to let someone either legit help you out or at worst, dick around & not affect things too much - until it was time for chaos emeralds, goddammit tails

[Thief]

classic sonic is good, unique platforming with more often than not fun/good level design and music.

The unique platforming being the biggest reason for me liking Genesis Sonic games in a sea of me too platformers. Same reason I prefer Genesis Aladdin over SNES.

[j_factor]

In a way I'm kind of glad to see Joe doesn't like Sonic that much. I'm so tired of Nintendo fanboys squawking that Sega "only had Sonic and a couple other things" going for them. Joe's not big on Sonic but he's still a Sega fan. Because there's plenty of other stuff.